The Kim family traditional home-made angelfood cake with home-made chocolate icing. Candle-counting will be confusing, since I'm sharing the cake with my niece.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from email
Thanks for all the <3 everyone! LOL Ayse & Josh. Definitely feeling exceedingly blessed today & all thru this holiday visit back home with so many loving friends and a great (& goofy) family. <3 and all the best to everyone for a happy, safe & prosperous 2010!!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
“We should point out that neither Boing Boing or Mr. Citrano suggested that Ms. Moore herself had anything to do with any alleged photo-shopping or that her reliably impressive physique needed such a thing...”
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
"Mr. Citrano was less reserved in his response..."
- Anthony Citrano
Less reserved. Because you are in the right, so no need to have reservations!
- Rene Wirtz
The undercurrent in the article is very interesting - they stick to the facts but the intention to poke fun is very clear. But nothing they could get sued over, obviously :)
- WorldofHiglet
Yeah, I liked the jokesy vibe; I think it brings in the sense of the ridiculousness that is needed when things get way too serious. I know Moore's image is her livelihood, but it isn't Anthony's fault (or anyone else who pointed it out) that it wasn't policed properly for this cover. That lies with W, Moore, and her agent/publicist/etc.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I agree with Jennifer! If photos weren't photo-shopped in the first place we would not be having this conversation! Aren't there more important things going on in the world? Oh I don't know, poverty, world hunger, a depression, our environment!
- Angels In Action
@Angels: wrong. This isn't about retouching. But I give up on trying to explain that to people.
- Anthony Citrano
Angels, the point of this is not that's it's photoshopped, it's the denial and legal kafutzing by one side when it is noted by another side that all is not right. There is protecting one's image and then there is flat out douchebaggery when cornered by evidence.
- Johnny Worthington
Is that it Anthony? It's not the shopping, it's the reaction to someone pointing it out.
- Johnny Worthington
From @acitrano on Twitter this morning: "People: this is NOT about retouching, NOT about Demi. This IS about freedom to speak (esp. truth) & opine w/o being bullied. #Hipgate"
- WorldofHiglet
.... I don't like seeing people trying to bully their way out of a situation of their own making, which is why I think it's an important issue.
- WorldofHiglet
"witter's Director of Platform Ryan Sarver followed up on earlier public announcements this weekend with an email to developers explaining plans to raise the limit on the number of times an application can request information from Twitter for a single user to 10 times what it is today (from 150 req/hr to 1500/hr), and to offer everyone the same kind of paid access to the full "fire hose" of user updates that Google and Bing enjoy. People who build cool Twitter apps say this is very big news."
- Karoli
from Bookmarklet
"Tis the time to be amazed: A 38-year-old man has regained vision in his blind eye thanks to a new stem cell therapy. It won't cure all blind people, but it's a giant leap. Here's how it works."
- mjc
from Bookmarklet
My mom is blind. It would be nice if they could rejuvenate the optic nerve someday!
- Michael Fidler
i havent had a "like" on any of my stories in a long time - i guess most of my 3,000 friendfeed friends have left... or maybe my content is crappy. could be either im sure
i thought your post about twitter acquisition targets was nice.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Just an observation, but it seems that most of your content is coming from Twitter. Some people don't bother liking or commenting if they think you're not here.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Beau it's Higlet's world, we just live in it - ---- Thanks Marshall, I linked you up at the end. Sarah Jill - I write a bunch of comments and likes every day but maybe i need an upgrade :)
- Allen Stern
Maybe it's the time you post, Allen. I must admit to not noticing your posts for a while now (I don't have rooms for stuff - FF is a firehose down Main Street for me).
- WorldofHiglet
IT'S MY WORLD AND GET TO SAY THAT NOW YOU HAVE ALSO LOST THE GAME. AKIVA. :(
- WorldofHiglet
Oh, I was prepared to lose the game when I made you lose the game. I'm fine with that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
yah, i don't generally "like" or comment on stuff from Twitter cos i know no one is likely to engage.
- Joe Silence
well thanks everyone for commenting - i appreciate it! g'nite all.
- Allen Stern
Don't feel bad - I have never had a comment and under 10 likes.This is the first time I seen a post from you.Maybe my timing is off.anyways Happy New Year to you.
- R_ C
"Leo Laporte Right. Johnny I’m so glad you could call in, I know you’re practically always there in our FriendFeed room. Johnny does a really great FriendFeed podcast called FFundercats, and where would we find FFundercats? Johnny Worthington FFundercats is at ffundercats.com, that’s two Fs for awesome. Leo Laporte Two Fs for awesome. Johnny Worthington Yes. Leo Laporte ffundercats.com. Johnny it’s great to talk to you and I’d like to add, we are starting to do something on the network where we do world news check ins, we call it our Tech World Beat and I’d love to add you to that list of people so we can, as we call around, talk to people… Johnny Worthington I’d love to be on it. Leo Laporte Thank you, Johnny, really appreciate it. Johnny Worthington from Brisbane"
- Josh Haley
from Bookmarklet
"Elyn Saks is a law professor at the University of Southern California, a Marshall scholar, and a graduate of Yale Law School. She also suffers from schizophrenia -- an illness that many would assume makes her impressive resume an impossibility. In 2007, she published an acclaimed memoir of her struggle with the disease, “The Center Cannot Hold.” Her book is a frank and moving portrait of the experience of schizophrenia, but also a call for higher expectations -- a plea that we allow people with schizophrenia to find their own limits. If anything, she says, her work as a scholar has helped her to cope with the disease. In September, she was awarded a MacArthur Foundation “genius” grant. She chatted with Mind Matters editor Gareth Cook."
- William Harryman
from Bookmarklet
"News of the ban made for a moderately sized sensation, full of entertaining elements - a (possibly) overzealous principal (who also forwarded e-mails containing the word meep to the local police), Muppet references (meep, as we all know, is what the hapless lab assistant Beaker says, often as things explode and catch fire around him), Road Runner references (with learned commentary at...
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- William Harryman
Y'all can unsubscribe from me, block me, hate me and curse my name to the twin suns... but... the Millennium Falcon has always been a bit meh and overrated to me......... The Executor Star Dreadnought, now there's a ship!
I'd love to see the Executor do the Kessel Run in 40 parsecs, less 12. There's no way a ship that big and slow would be able to skirt the gravity wells closely enough to complete it in a useful distance.
- Matthew DeVries
So we are back to the 'it can run fast' argument... fair enough...
- Johnny Worthington
Let's see: it takes maybe 3 people to fly the Falcon. If you divided up the crew of a Star Dreadnought into 3-person teams, how many Falcons could you have?
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Johnny, you see that satellite dish sticking up there making it slightly less aerodynamic? That picks up free porn from 37 different worlds.
- Joe Pierce
ha3rvey... That works in reverse too... How many Falcons would you need (and therefore the man power) to have the same fire power and kick-assedness of the Executor?
- Johnny Worthington
Did the Dreadnought even go to Kessel???
- WorldofHiglet
The Executor was taken out by the pussyest ship ever made in the Star Wars universe. Show me one spot you could crash a Segway into on a Nimitz Class Carrier to destroy it, and I'll maybe respect the Executor.
- Matthew DeVries
I can't even tell you the number of times I took out the shield generators on these pieces of junk on Xwing and Xwing vs Tiefighter. YOU ARE SO VERY WRONG!!!!
- WorldofHiglet
I agree with DeVries the way the Executor went down was ridiculous. BORG CUBESHIP FTW
- Mo Kargas
No need for blushes, Joe! Can I take it you played Xwing back in the day?
- WorldofHiglet
now ya'll are making me with that Star Wars Galaxies didn't suck now. The Jump to Lightspeed space flight expansion was a ton of fun.
- Joe Pierce
If I could install it on my PC I would do it RIGHT NOW.
- WorldofHiglet
Dear Steven, please see my earlier comments about 'running fast', Love Johnny
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
@WoH: DOS X-Wing with expansions, DOS TIE Fighter with expansions, Windows X-Wing vs TIE Fighter and the Balance Of Power campaign...yah, played it heaps. i think i have the X-Wing vs TIE Fighter CDs right here on my desk somewhere, in fact.
- Joe Silence
FOUND THEM! now, if only i could get the joystick working on this machine. :(
- Joe Silence
Johnny, The Millennium Falcon is not amused by your shenanigans. -_0
- Micah Wittman
go plug the professor into the hyperdrive.
- Joe Silence
Matthew... The top speed of an A-Wing is 1,3000 km/h (in atmosphere). Now the command was also given to "Concentrate all fire on that Super Star Destroyer!" so they were under fire from basically the whole entire Rebel fleet. So if a Nimitz Class Carrier was under fire from several enemy ships and aircraft all at the same time and I chucked a Segway at the windows in the bridge at about...
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- Johnny Worthington
but would the Nimitz suddenly roll over like a beheaded cow? i doubt it. as far back as WWII a carrier could keep going with the bridge blown to bits.
- Joe Silence
Just out of interest, how many actual Tie fighters did the Falcon kill? I dare say it's in the teens
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
You really want to argue about the kill ratio between a cargo freighter with two guns and a fleet flagship?
- Steven Perez
from IM
No, but you seem to want to argue how kick ass a cargo freighter is compared to a fleet flagship... So we're both pissing into the wind
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
*sigh* All right: said freighter evaded an invading ground force, several Star Destroyers, and said flagship, all the while doing so under repairs, snuck her crew onto a battle station the size of a planet, survived two battles with said battle station, shot down any number of opposing enemies and was instrumental in destroying said battle station - twice. Said flagship ... got knocked...
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- Steven Perez
from IM
In conclusion... I love Star Wars so hard it hurts sometimes... I'm just tired of having to tow the line on how awesome the Flacon is...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
And yet, ... the Firefly-class freighter Serenity was 10x more awesome.
- Steven Perez
Steven... So you love a freighter that was good at running away, hiding and was a broken down piece of junk? That 'bout it?
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I mean... It's not like it's a magical phone box or anything... *ducks*
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
And that somehow still beat an Alliance fleet and a horde of space zombies. Do you really have to ask?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Any ship can be awesome when it has the benefit of an entire army to refit and upgrade it at will. The truly great ships in science fiction are often held together with spit and bailing wire. Serenity, Millennium Falcon, the TARDIS, ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
Let's also be clear that the Ewoks beat the Death Star 2 (there was more than one ship in the core) and Luke blew up Death Star 1 after the Falcon shot 2... that's right 2 tie fighters... BIG HELP THERE!!!
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Remind me again: which ship were the Ewoks flying? :D And Han only shot one TIE fighter. The other one panicked. THAT'S RIGHT - PANICKED. Quality, not quantity.
- Steven Perez
from IM
No Ewoks blowing up the shield? The Falcon is just Billy Dee scratching his nuts. There was more than one ship at the core so it's not like ONLY the Falcon could do it.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Wedge Antilles got loads of kills in his little one man fighter over the years.
- Joe Silence
Right, this would be the same Billy Dee who fought his superior officer to give Han and the Care Bears more time while they were all being shredded by the half-finished Death Star and a fleet of Star Destroyers. Just hanging around.
- Steven Perez
"A new study indicates that high fructose corn syrup may be the cause of the huge upswing in childhood obesity and diabetes."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
There have been studies that also demonstrate a deleterious effect of HFCS on memory.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
I am a case in point: since moving stateside 2 years ago I am on the verge of a heart attack (high LDL), am borderline diabetic and have loads of fatty belly tissue. All this with maintaining a better and healthier lifestyle than I used to have. The only difference between prior to 2 years ago and now? High fructose corn syrup. Luckily, there is medication (3rd tier, of course) that helps me control it, only $40 a month for the rest of my life. Fan-fucking-tastic *angry fist shaking*
- Rene Wirtz
And... this is supposed to do what? Your options of food to the lifestyle your allowed is?
- Uncle CW™
@Uncle: are you commenting to me? What is it that you're asking me?
- Rene Wirtz
Now I know that HFCS is the cause of my problems, me and my family try to avoid it. But here's the thing, it's even in things like Capri-sun orange juice! I mean, WTF?! This is also strictly a US thing, outside of the US instead of HFCS regular sugar or sugar derivatives are used, which explains why obesity is a much bigger problem in the US than it is elsewhere.
- Rene Wirtz
I *think* I understand Uncle's question...and it seems directed at the title of the article. Correct me if I'm wrong in interpretation, Uncle, but it seems you're asking *what are our options?* -- given that HFCS is in EVERYthing. Plus, the food industry and the pharma industry are happily in bed together via the FDA. (http://factoidz.com/has-inc...)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
HFCS is as pervasive as it is only due to massive government intervention in (1) the corn market and (2) the sugar market. Shoot, changing public opinion about trans fats effected significant change in a very, very short amount of time.
- Andrew C
No, it's not. It's just confirmed now.
- Steven Perez
from IM
@MVB - to be honest, I'd kinda wanted to believe that HFCS wasn't any different than regular sugar, calorie-for-calorie... =/
- Andrew C
First off, always drink 100% juice (I'm a Juicy Juice person), there's no reason not to. Second, actually look at food labels. Yeah there's a lot you wont be able to eat, but sometimes it's not just about switching out one-for-one, it's about changing your eating habits and how you look at food. (Yes, I know how hard this is, I have chronic heartburn and I'm working on eating better.)
- Heather
@Heather - the book "Squeezed" by Alissa Hamilton, if you haven't already read it, may be depressing reading about juice.
- Andrew C
Most of those foods listed are what I would consider convenience foods. With a little planning, they are all avoidable.
- Mellissa
Agreed, Mellissa. *nod* What struck me was...bread? Really? I've taken to baking our breads to avoid that. Cereals are relatively easy to read the labels, and I've found that most of the Malt-O-Meal products (in the bags) are free of HFCS...for now. And even *meats* - I've found sausages with HFCS in them (while hunting for sausage to make jambalaya). What frustrates me is that all of...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
That's true. I've noticed even with something as simple as bread - my supermarket's brand multigrain and wholemeal breads are nearly double the price of white bread. I don't think HFCS is used much here in Australia, but I definitely hear you on the price of whole foods.
- Mellissa
*nod* This problem is most prevalent in the U.S. -- which is one of our major concerns. My husband is from Europe (his comments are above) -- though what I'm becoming more concerned by with respect to other countries is where there is a surge of fast food chains, there is an increase in the use of HFCS. I'm not much of a soda drinker, but my husband likes Coke. I'm waiting for Passover...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Try going to a mexican supermarket if one is near you. Mexican coke is also made with sugar, not hfcs.
- tiffany
from Android
I've checked...even what is being produced in Mexico anymore is with HCFS...I checked a mercado in San Antonio while I was there last week, even. *sigh* Even their various fruity sodas are made with the stuff.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
A good rule of thumb on what to cram in your mouth: If it didn't exist a hundred years ago it most likely is not healthy.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
loads of things that existed 100 years ago have had HFCS added to them for no good reason, tho.
- Joe Silence
while i was in Malaysia i had no danger of ingesting HFCS cos it's not in ANYTHING there. not even soda pop. i read food labels all the time.
- Joe Silence
HFCS is mostly geared towards food products for the US market. It is used in Europe, but only a fraction of what it is used for in the US. I don't know about Australasia and Africa, but I'm assuming it's similar or less than Europe.
- Rene Wirtz
May I take this opportunity to point out that American HFCS usage is driven in large part by the tariffs on sugar imports. Sugar in the US is much more expensive than elsewhere, so we use crappy substitutes.
- Alex Scrivener
Why eat sugar? Why eat HFCS? Why drink juice of any kind? Why is this a problem for so many people? You want juice, drink some wine. Wakey, wakey!!!
- Christopher Harley
my kids drink water and milk at home, pretty much no exceptions to that, except for apple cider in season. they're allowed lemonade and the very occasional soda when we're out.
- Blackeyed P
Fresh veggies, fresh meats, expensive bread, and no juice should pretty much cover it. Sadly I don't come anywhere close to that standard for myself or my toddler :(
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Even if you give kids the HFCS-free food at home, at school they have access to food items loaded with it.
- Rene Wirtz
That's not an answer to the problem, Rene. It's an excuse for ignoring the problem. Are your kids so defiant that they'll seek out HFCS simply to rebel against your guidance?
- Christopher Harley
*puts on tinfoil hat* HFCS is used instead of sugar, because sugar is a communist substance and was "banned" after the blockade of Cuba *takes off tinfoil hat*
- Rene Wirtz
I know that Christopher, but everything that is good/fun/enjoyable has HFCS in it; it's not so much rebellion. Our kids like the HFCS-free meals my wife prepares, but kids are kids are kids, they will want to snack.
- Rene Wirtz
A number of products I consume have switched from HFCS to "real" sugar over the past 1 - 2 years. It seems to be the leading edge of a trend. Expectations that every person in the US could easily avoid risk by becoming educated, reading food labels, and purchasing healthier options (which are less popular, less available, and often more expensive) are unrealistic IMHO.
- Lo
Then education, beyond a remedial understanding of the world around us, is unrealistic.
- Christopher Harley
Since learning about the *evils* of HFCS I make every effort to check labels and put back anything using it. Especially where giving food to my kids (4&2) is concerned - it's my responsibility what they ingest etc. It's easy to get a little crazy checking everything in everything you eat so I try to default to two main rules - no HFCS and as little as possible saturated fat.
- 1x29
Isn't the use of HFCS based on cost? I.e. it's a cheaper sugar substitute?
- 1x29
Yes, HFCS is a cheap subsitute for sugar. So, the FDA approved HFCS while at the same tarriffs on sugar were increased. And the FDA is the spider in the web in all of this, makes you wonder why this happened and who is benefiting from this.
- Rene Wirtz
How much, to the nearest $10 Billion, do you think ADM and Monsanto spend, every year, on lobbyists and in political 'contributions?'
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I don't even want to guess. And I'm sure big pharma and big insurance are in on it too, making money off all the diabetics.
- Rene Wirtz
Think avoiding HFCS is hard? Try HFCS, maltodextrin, MSG, and gluten. :/
- Alix Whitmire
Though my worst gripe is with "natural" and "artificial" flavors. They don't even tell you what they're putting in the food with those.
- Alix Whitmire
Nope, they hide pretty well what they put in food, Alix.
- Rene Wirtz
We've been pretty much avoiding HFCS for a few years now Arnold's bread doesn't have HFCS and is reasonable, aside from that I cook simply & from scratch. HFCS is in some of our condiments, but I'm ok with that small amount.
- Heather Solos
We do the same here, Heather. In small amounts there is really nothing wrong with HFCS, but it is abundant in processed foods.
- Rene Wirtz
Quickly glancing at "Squeezed" it says it's about orange juice, is there more? I rarely drink oj, but I'm addicted to juice in the am like most people are to coffee. I can't stand anything that isn't "100% juice" and I thought variety would be at least moderately positive. If I have to add juice to my cut back on list I think I'll be stuck eating seasonal veggies and drinking tap water....
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- Heather
Capri-sun juices have HFCS ... it is strange, because what else than the juice from an orange would you need for OJ?
- Rene Wirtz
@Heather: the condensed version would be that not-from-concentrate juice is highly processed. The immediate products of juicing are quickly separated into the stable parts, aka fruit sugars, and the volatile oils 'n' stuff. The former is stored in giant tanks for months, the latter is sold to specialist flavour companies who process it some more, then sell it back to the juice companies...
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- Andrew C
from Android
Coke w/ real sugar does taste different, but imo not terribly so. Just on taste I think the hfcs version tastes ok. Also, MVB, I just remembered that colas have indeed been around for over a hundred years now.
- Andrew C
from Android
@Christopher Haley: You said "That's not an answer to the problem, Rene. It's an excuse for ignoring the problem. Are your kids so defiant that they'll seek out HFCS simply to rebel against your guidance?" and "Then education, beyond a remedial understanding of the world around us, is unrealistic." -- what you *don't* seem to realize in your comments there is the background of our...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I don't know all that much about it, actually. I got a message on LinkedIn from a recruiter asking me if I knew anyone that had a fairly niche-y skill set since I was in the Greenville area. I responded that *I* did but might not have the length of experience the client required and offered a suggestion of where he could advertise the position. Apparently that was enough to get him to actually look at my profile and he'd like to talk to me about it...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck! I hope that once you talk with the recruiter, you both find that you're a good fit!
- vicster is...
If it's the position I think it is, I know it's something I can do. I just have to get my foot in the door and prove it.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck with the interview tomorrow. Hopefully, it will result in an early Christmas present!
- Anne Bouey
I hope so Anne! Turns out my dad's pre-test interview for therapy got shifted back tomorrow morning so I have to do that first. If I wind up playing phone tag with the gent about the job again, I'm going to offer to meet up with him over lunch. Nothing like tasty noms to put someone in the hiring mood!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hope this goes well - fingers are still crossed!
- WorldofHiglet
Well, I played phone tag with the gent earlier today but just got done with a 27 minute phone conversation with him. He seemed intrigued (and specifically complimented my phone demeanor) and is sending me more information about the position. I'm not exactly qualified for it per se, but I know it's something I can do well. My job at this point is to make myself look like an undiscovered gem *shines her facets*
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Sounds promising - I really hope they snap you up. And, if I may say so, your facets are looking particularly alluring today....
- WorldofHiglet
You've been discovered now; he just doesn't know what kind of gem he's found yet. Shine!
- Anne Bouey
Spidra, ok, that t-shirt is hilarious. :D
- Micah Wittman
I've wanted one for a while. Another reason this pic looks like the Oakland waterfront is because there actually is a maze of freeways there (although fewer since the Loma Prieta quake).
- Spidra Webster
i have a book someplace around (probly in storage) that has alot of Syd Mead designs for Star Wars and the first AT-ATs were closer to a Jawa sand crawler with wheels instead of treads.
- Joe Silence
or was it Ralph McQuarrie? my mind fails me yet again.
- Joe Silence
"A woman made an emergency 999 call to Greater Manchester Police (GMP) to say her cat was "doing her head in" because it was playing with string. The force has released audio footage of the call to remind people that the 999 service should not be abused. The woman said it was an emergency as it had "been going on for two hours"."
- M F
from Bookmarklet
I hope there's a cat rescue group in the area that comes and gets that poor kitty into a better home!
- vicster is...
I actually knew someone who called the police after buying something online, somehow he had gone back with his browser, I don't know but was charged twice or so he claimed. He didn't bother to call customer services or something like that, he immediately called the emergency services.
- M F
stupid people folks I keep telling you.
- VAL D. Zone
"Kevin Dunbar is a researcher who studies how scientists study things — how they fail and succeed. In the early 1990s, he began an unprecedented research project: observing four biochemistry labs at Stanford University. Philosophers have long theorized about how science happens, but Dunbar wanted to get beyond theory. He wasn’t satisfied with abstract models of the scientific method — that seven-step process we teach schoolkids before the science fair — or the dogmatic faith scientists place in logic and objectivity. Dunbar knew that scientists often don’t think the way the textbooks say they are supposed to. He suspected that all those philosophers of science — from Aristotle to Karl Popper — had missed something important about what goes on in the lab. (As Richard Feynman famously quipped, “Philosophy of science is about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds.”) So Dunbar decided to launch an “in vivo” investigation, attempting to learn from the messiness of real...
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- Neal Jansons
from Bookmarklet
Very interesting, and useful to me right now. Thanks!
- Lo
"What I notice is that my peers are progressing to more and more complicated and convoluted designs. They are impressed with the flashiest APIs, the biggest buzzwords, and the most intricate of useless features. They are more than happy to write endless unit tests to test their endless refactoring all the while claiming that they follow XP’s “the simplest thing that works” mantra. I’ve actually seen a guy take a single class that did nothing more than encapsulate the addition of two strings, and somehow “refactor” it to be four classes and two interfaces. How is this improving things? How can more somehow equal simpler? This should never be the case. These are the actions of an expert. These experts are very smart, capable, and skilled, but they are too busy impressing everyone to realize that their actions are only making things worse for themselves. In the end all of their impressive designs are doing nothing but making more work for themselves and everyone around them. It’s as if...
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- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
This applies to experts in any field.
- WorldofHiglet
It takes smart people to make complicated things simple.
- imabonehead
Is it possible he's talking about Java programmers?
- Gabe
i really liked this post (it resonated with me) until the end, at which point i felt alienated.
- Neha Narula
What alienated you, Neha? To me, it seemed valid enough but a bit overwrought and trite. I know plenty of experienced, skilled working programmers who value just-get-it-done simplicity -- the "professional master" doesn't seem that elusive.
- ⓞnor
from Android
I'm a big fan of keeping it simple, but some problems do require a thorough approach.
- Andrew C
"In contrast there are masters in the martial arts who learned their art as a means of survival and became masters in a realistic and hostile environment. We don't have anyone like this in the programming profession, " ... what about Carmack and Abrash & co?
- Andrew C
BTW, I dunno if this is what put Neha off, but it almost sounds like Shaw wants to deny the reality of a nice O(n log n) solution beating out an O(n^2) solution (assuming small k, whatever) on a problem of decent size.
- Andrew C
I mean, the stories of the martial arts masters may involve simple-looking moves, but they are also (in the stories) _perfectly_ executed, the product of careful observation of one's opponent and expert timing and precise angles. You might be able to pare down a simple linked list to the bare essentials, but I don't think it's quite analogous to not using a more complex structure _where appropriate_.
- Andrew C
Nice... "The main thing I noticed about the experts I’ve encountered is they are into impressing you with their abilities. They are usually incredibly good, but their need for recognition gets in the way of mastery. Everything they do is an attempt to prove themselves and in order to do this they must perform like an actor on stage. There’s nothing wrong with this, and I don’t think the...
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- Ken Sheppardson
Andrew: Maybe the point was that an Expert would say "Aha! You need to keep these items in order, so a self-balancing tree is the perfect solution.", while a Master would say "Ah, but you never have more than 5 items, so a linked-list will always be faster!"
- Gabe
this part, so much guy/son stuff! i dislike superfluous interfaces as much as anybody else: “There was this guy I worked with who once optimized a complicated red- black tree getting 300% performance boost. I was baffled and ask, 'How’d you do that? That’s impossible.’ To which he responded…” “'That’s my linked list my son.’”
- Neha Narula
This is the kind of crap that gives java such a bad image. It used to be that people used it for what it was -- a simple OO language with garbage collection and a fast VM. Now you have architecture astronauts going off the deep end and making everyone assume the language has to be that way. I believe this disease stems from people who focus more on the process than on the product of their work. That's a recipe for disaster in my book.
- Joel Webber
from BuddyFeed
Neha: So lt's the fact that the language is male?
- ⓞnor
from Android
The impulse is good, but people have such different senses of what is simple, what has quality, what flows with the Tao. It's like beauty that way. What the story doesn't say is the 300% performance boost was on a limited test data set, in the real world it performed 3x worse and all the complexity had a reason that made sense once you "know." :-)
- Todd Hoff
Complexity that's "there for a reason" is the worst kind. But who even talks about red-black trees vs linked lists? TreeMap vs LinkedList isn't the issue, interface swaddling and hyperfine dependency injection is the issue. Thing is, fights are decisively won, but code maintainability is much harder to measure, and even the importance of performance can be disputed.
- ⓞnor
from Android
I find it funny how the article, while praising simple approach, suffers from superfluity of language.
- andrei_c
Neha, I thought the final "That's my linked list my son" was to make clear the parallel with the earlier quote "That was my foot my son" from Mestre Bimba.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Todd: Imagine the situation where you are storing data for the US Census, and need to keep track of the people in a household by age. Since it's sorted and unbounded (there's no maximum number of children a family can have), you can easily think that a nice O(n lg n) algorithm that keeps a balanced binary tree is the right way to go. However, if you bother to look at the data, you'd see...
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- Gabe
I wish I could "Like" this article again :)
- scott willeke
might have created a "MEGA-liked" button:)
- alex melnikov
It's a great analogy, but in reality, the martial arts stuff is mythology. Wing Chun proponents often talk about simplicity of the art, but they'd get their butts kicked in a sloppy street fight because invariably, most real world fights are messy, quickly go to the ground, and result in grappling and choking and eye gouging. Bullshido has lots of examples of this. The 80 year old guy...
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- Ray Cromwell
Hi all, Yesterday, December 28, 2009 at 11:27am CST, Rhys Alexander Bonner Nartowicz was born. He was 7 lbs, 14 oz, and 20 inches long. Mom and baby are doing well. Dad is still a bit stunned. Welcome Rhys! ... Posted via email from Marty's Posterous
- The Letter M
from Posterous
Can you find the 2 missing DVD remotes we have lost?
- WorldofHiglet
I'll let you know if I see them. It wouldn't surprise me! (The remote I found is for the DirecTV receiver on another TV, but it will at least change channels in here. I just can't control the volume.) Also just found another flash drive while I was supposed to be sitting. :P
- LB - not a snow bunneh
hehe - keep going! You could be rich by the end of the day!
- WorldofHiglet