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Seesmic, Friendfeed and Twitter next to each other in a test version of Twhirl. Adding tons of Friendfeed experience improvements in there, Marco rocks.
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I love this version. And Seesmic in Twhirl is so addictive
- Loic Le Meur
nice improvements Loic!! bring it on!!
- Susan Beebe
can't wait - gimme more ;o)
- Marco Sascha Sven Hoppe
from twhirl
very interesting. The friendfeed integration looks way better than before. Will have to give this a look when it is released.
- Rob Diana
Seesmic ROCKS!!
- Larry
from twhirl
okay, so FF and Twitter are in the latest? but not Seemic correct?
- Lou Paglia
This might get me back into Twhirl.
- Akiva Moskovitz
and it has FF rooms support!
- Loic Le Meur
The question is when ?
- Gilles Meiers
from twhirl
wow, looks great. remind me http://twitku.com/ for a second there...
- Orli Yakuel
looks very cool. exactly what we need. but what about plurk ;)
- Phil Coyne
from twhirl
needs pownce and jaiku support too. Then it will be the total solution
- Adrian
from twhirl
yes... when?
- Mike Wills
@LouPaglia - correct, Seesmic is not integrated with Twirl desktop app yet
- Susan Beebe
in a few days I think for the new FF integration. Seesmic comes next.
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Super! When!??!
- Florin Grozea
from twhirl
looks like it might replace alert thingy as my RIA of choice
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
Great ! Thanks
- Gilles Meiers
from twhirl
integrate into one window, is all i ask, make it indisputably the best
- Ruben Llibre
none of them working in linux TOO BAD!
- Yassin Alvandi
Is twitter's api actually back up at 50 req/hr?
- Shawn Farner
The old Twhirl works for me in linux for me, it just won't remember my password.
- Daniel E. Renfer
from twhirl
Yes Marco does. Twhirl is becoming my info hub. And if Twitter dies, who cares I'm sure Pownce, Jaiku or whatever could be swapped in
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
so is seesmic cool now?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
How do we score the test ver? :)
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
You tease. Where do I download it?
- Rafe Needleman
Cannot wait, big Guy!
- ledretch
I want... When?
- highcenter
from twhirl
Can't wait!!
- Danish Khan
from twhirl
actually it will be pushed in an hour or two
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Can't wait!
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
Nice teasing. Do you have any release date or will you take the "it's done when it's done" side?
- Romain Péchard
from twhirl
I would love some "best practices" guide for how to get the most out of all that information that will be flooding in.
- Brendan Cosgrove
from twhirl
How do I add my Seesmic account into Twhirl 082? It's not showing up in the "accounts" list.
- Rafe Needleman
from twhirl
We should have a Twhirl + Seesmic preview in the very next days
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
wait, what exactly is the difference between Twhirl and Seesmic? I thought Seesmic was replacing Twhirl...
- Piero Ardizone
This looks awesome!
- Svartling
I think this what im looking for!
- Michael Scott
Wow nice work, I really like the improvements made :)
- Jeunelle Foster
awesome!
- barbarars
wow - one of the furthest back boomerang ff threads i've seen
- mike "glemak" dunn
nice!
- .LAG liked that
Wow, this is pretty old. I got excited for a second, thought Loic had seen the light and was starting to care about Twhirl again. NOPE.
- Shawn Farner
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Ich habe es auch - seit etwa 2 Monaten. Gute Entscheidung!
- Horst Schulte
Ich gehöre nicht zu denen, die keiner Fliege was zu leiden tun können. Patsch.
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#zensursula hat in ihrem Wahlkreis nicht gewonnen … und alle so: Yeaahhh!
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Übrigens: Wenn ihr euer Twitter-Passwort twittert wird es nur als *-Folge angezeigt - Beweis: ********** Probiert das mal aus.
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Fiesling. :)
- Hendrik Neumann
RT @haekelschwein Ich habe auch ein Internet-Manifest verfasst, stelle es aber nicht ins Netz, weil es sonst jeder kostenlos verlinkt.
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gibts das http://www.internet-manifest.de/ schon als bilder-galerie zum durchklicken?
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RT @hans_werner: These 18: Wer im Internet eine Welle machen möchte, sollte wenigstens performante Server am Start haben. #manifest #fail
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HOW TO: Get the Most Out of Posterous - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Es ist 15:00 Uhr, ich kann mich nicht entsinnen wann ich zuletzt so lange (seit halb acht) am Stück Ferngesehen habe #24hBerlin #arte #rbb
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It's been a while since the last "Twitter is dead. $app is the next big thing" - or did I miss something?
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FF is dead, FB bought it ;)
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
"Das ist ein illegales Programm von Microsoft" - http://vowe.net/archive...
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u feels cooler? « Lolcats ‘n’ Funny Pictures of Cats – I Can Has Cheezburger? - http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009...
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Binnurs türkisches Online-Kochbuch - http://sprechblase.wordpress.com/2009...
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Short URLs shared on Friendfeed now reveal the re-direct if you hover over them.
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great find Steve - btw, would it be ok for to drop you an email? Just a short one don't worry
- Zee.
Like this. +5 more points for FF.
- Amani
Steve, I love that I made a cameo in your post. I only wish my short URL was more inspired.
- Scott Gatz
Finally! Yay! Wish Twitter had this a long time ago. That's the reason I never use full links that get converted. I change the www. to w3 .website.com and that way everyone can see the full link still and copy and paste it if they want to view the site. I got annoyed at clicking on duplicate TinyURLs.
- Adam
@Adam, Just try out the grease monkey script, it will let you see all the tiny url's. http://tinyurl.com/5wduxf
- Dennis Goedegebuure
Nice feature add. Keep them coming!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Nice feature enhancement!!
- Susan Beebe
What Mohomed=genieyclo said! Thanks, FF crew. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
One small nit. Does not work in comments. Try this link - http://tinyurl.com/5wduxf
- Atul Arora
@Atul Arora Right! First thing I noticed. I also wonder with how many shortening services does it work with...
- Nikos Anagnostou
This is awesome. Hopefully this can be added to twhirl too
- Guy
This should be definitely exported via API
- Alex Kapranoff
Finally!
- Mr. Gunn
This is an awesome feature!
- Nicholas James
Lovely!
- Mitchell Tsai
I use the greasemonkey script tinyurl-ru at http://kapranoff.ru/friendf... but it only covers tinyurl.com and tinyurl.ru | Maybe we should do a community project that keeps updating that script with all those url-shorteners out there. | Alex, are you game?
- ĎÚβĨŐÚŚ Dod
Is this a feature that friendfeed removed? Because it's not working in Chrome.
- James Poling
I don't see any short URL's in FriendFeed anymore. all are automatically expanded.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Zeit.de: Mehr als 90 Prozent gegen Sperrungen im Internet. http://www.zeit.de/online... #zensursula
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SEO. Die gedopten Radsportler unter den Internetbefüllern.
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Man könnte die Piraten vor Somalia doch einfach mit einem Stoppschild abschirmen.
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I forgot to recharge myself overnight. I may not be able to contin
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Evernote for Mac: Subtly Sweeter - http://blog.evernote.com/2009...
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"1984" heißt jetzt "2009" - sonst ändert sich nix.
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To people who say the new Friendfeed real-time feed is too fast: follow fewer people. Or use filters more. Real time = real life.
Louis Gray, Deborah Lee Soltesz, FunTimesGuide and 86 other people liked this
It's all about the filters ... but most people wont set them up. The system needs to be smart enough to know.
- Jason Goldberg
To people who say I should follow fewer people: if I can have a conversation with one person in a stadium filled with tens of thousands, I should be able to do the same thing on a webservice where I follow only 1300. Not to mention using filters implies that I know today the interesting and compelling content that others will post tomorrow. Again, just how I use the service. Others may use it differently.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We should be ab le to filter on the fly... that would help.
- Wolfman-K
Following fewer people reduces the usefulness of the service. Filters might be a good way of handling things, but how do I know they aren't filtering out things that I'd actually want to see?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
This is one of the things that's so appealing about the new FF: with filters, I can see in real-time the stuff I *want* to know about as soon as it happens, and peruse the rest as I feel like it.
- Ryan Waldron
Real life.. I see that phrase often in games like WoW and RoM. I prefer the virtual version :)
- Michele
I'm not sure I appreciate the added value of the beta design, particularly in light of the additional management and time it's going to take me to get it right. The current design has flaws (such as content updating out from underneath you when visiting a link) that are further amplified in the new design. There must be a way to address the update and management issues.
- Loren Heiny
The new friendfeed is like talking on a party - to all people at the same time. I feel like a social juggler.
- Dan van Moll
Loren: The link issue could be solved by Paul & co. stealing the Diggbar from under Kevin Rose's nose.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Perhaps they should add settings like Twitterfall has...
- Cris McRae
I am still learning how to use it myself, but I training myself
- Ike
What do you think about the new Friendfeed User Interface? See the poll: http://twtpoll.com/q68d2y
- Yaron Orenstein
I've said it elsewhere, the more people you follow, the more of a need there is for filtering. It's not a preference, it's essential. It's true in Twitter, it's true in Friendfeed, it's true in email, it's true in Facebook. If you refuse to use the tools they have given you to manage the noise, then you have to deal with the it's design. That's your choice.
- Bwana ☠
Just heard on Cnet BuzzOutLoud (http://bol.cnet.com/) that it may not be visible to everyone yet. See http://beta.friendfeed.com/ and see if you experience the new features.
- Andy Pflueger
I'm pretty sure I don't have 300—let alone 3—people in real life constantly telling me every single thing they do and create in real time. ;) They send me an e-mail, a tweet, or I catch up on their activity in my Flickr contacts list on my own time. This is a very different and interesting shift for social media.
- David Chartier
Mine's not moving fast at all. I suppose I wasn't using it to it's full capacity before... :-\
- David Wynn
Bwana: Filtering isn't the panacea you're making it out to be. There's a reason I follow the people and topics I do, and if I filter them out just to save some peace of mind, I might as well just unfollow them entirely.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Looking for a good filter tutorial link. Anyone?
- Trevor Childs
Subscribe to Bwana he has some good filter examples.
- Jared B. Luther
Yet another person who tells me that, in order to use FF, I need to change my behavior.
- Glen Mistletoe
No way I'm following fewer people. The more I follow, the more fun I have here. So far, not too fast for me. We'll see tonight when it hits prime time.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Well, I still have lists and I can pause the updates, so I can use it however I like. It's definitely fun! I'll be using Friendfeed more, I'd wager, with the new interface. I actually feel less inundated, since I have nifty filtering. I'll be able to follow a lot more people!
- jojo, adventurer
Jason Goldberg: "The system needs to be smart enough to know." Forget lists and filters. Smart automated recommender systems are the future of social media. Why isn't Friendfeed leading the way?
- Sean McBride
Umm no, this is not real life.
- Corvida
Since when is it the user's fault when the user interface doesn't work as expected?
- Albert Willis
To people who say you should filter more for getting the real life: they should get out of their geek-holes and understand what it is to make choices for real life persons. :p
- Ton Zijp
I think the beta is awesome. Looks great on my iPhone in landscape mode.
- Steve Sill
i don't agree with the premise that because real time = real life folks should be able to keep up with their interests by scaling down their activity or number of people they happen to follow on a site like this. that's a nice simple thing to write, but it's certainly not practical if you're looking to interact with people on friendfeed. it's sites like these that afford all kinds of info to be exchanged among all kinds of people -- much more than in "real life." if the point of exchanging information lies
- Cee Bee
How about having less followers? I don't understand this kind of maths really. If everyone starts following less people just to use a "tool", your own voice won't be noticed. I'll follow everyone I think he/she could bring more knowledge/fun to me and it'll be up to the tool to satisfy my needs, not the opposite
- directeur
with a few people what's the point of being on a site like ff?
- Cee Bee
There's a live back channel for the Gillmor Gang Leo's streaming right now at http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi...
- Ken Sheppardson
Indeed, _very_ aggressive "hide" and "unsubscribe" are at least turning FF's "river of shit" UI a bit more palatable.
- Dossy Shiobara
Don't make ME fix your problems. If it's too fast, it's too fast, and FF will have to live with the consequences.
- Glen Mistletoe
In real-life, I don't have 1000 friends. And Leo, we're not friends in RL, right?
- AJ Batac
I asked yesterday how anyone actually kept up with hundreds of people on twitter. Never got a response, so I figure people actually don't.
- Barry Biddlecomb
from twhirl
People mostly use Twitter as a bullhorn; I doubt that many feeds are being read very carefully.
- Sean McBride
or just hit pause. it's not that big of a deal. you just hit refresh like you always have.
- Nathan Chase
Agree with Tina. Filtering for topics implies a preset agenda of interests which makes it much less interesting. And if real life was so great more people would live there :-)
- Todd Hoff
I didn't even know there are filters. They could make it easier to notice and use like put a filter button there on the page. Or explain that you can do that and how to do it.
- Nathan Mylott
It's not a matter of telling you HOW to use something, it's a matter of telling what's available to help you DEAL with data overload. Lists and Filters are there to help consume the data in a manner which is pleasurable. It's not the only way to use FF, but it's something to ADD to your existing way of using the tool to make it better. I realize not everyone uses the tool like I do, but the features I talk about are there to HELP you manage the madness.
- Bwana ☠
For example, not everyone uses labels in Gmail to manage their emails. But I've recommended some people use labels to organize the information and it has helped them. For others, it hasn't. The point remains, that labels are there to help with that and they are worth a try to see if it works. It's part of the toolset. Same is true with Lists and Filters on FF. They are there to help you. Give them a try. If they don't work, fine. Plenty of people have found they do work and that's why we say use it
- Bwana ☠
Me, I have an "Everything" list so I can see all my followers... but sometimes, I need a break and I move to my other lists or fiilters to munch on those. I spend the most time in the Everything list though. My home feed consists of individuals who I have liked or commented on more than 50 or 60 times..
- Bwana ☠
I'm not sure following fewer is the best idea. The pause button puts the whole site back into static mode, i.e. what the old FF is. So just hit that. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
It's already gotten better, since yesterdays hype slowly went down. I'm quite happy with the (number of) followers now... It's manageable.
- Holger Eilhard
Personally I can not see what all the hoopla is about. May be due to not following a hunndred people
- Greg
I just started using it, and I love it so far.. I can now see what Leo and Steve were so excited about.
- BASEnet
Liberal use of the "Hide" link works wonders to keep things clean. Also, adding ?num=100 to the end of the beta URL keeps things on the first page (thx Stupid Blogger/FFer (aka Tina)!)
- Aaron Fowler
...And... Leo haven't commented here after 23 hours. Busy man. Busy man.
- AJ Batac
I like how powerful the filtering is.
- David Delony
just wish there was some type of sms capacity, like twitter
- Steve Austin
Well Said Leo: "Real-Time = Real-Life" and I can't wait for Facebook and Twitter to get real!
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Leo: real life is throwing up on your shoes, too. don't want that.
- MikeAmundsen
Twitter is like paused friendfeed without comments. Without likes. Without play in line YouTube videos and flickr photos. :-)
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But who actually uses the twitter interface, Robert/
- Alec Saunders
I like the old FriendFeed's speed, with the new FriendFeed design. The old FriendFeed auto-updated, but not nearly as fast.
- Jesse Stay
that is just the right statement. Too much focus on 120 chars. Time to move on
- Vivek Puri
Do you remember, well... jaiku? :)
- Claudio Cicali ♋
But who actually uses Twitter on the web, Robert? Everyone I know uses tweetdeck
- Alec Saunders
I use the Twitter web site often, as a complement to twitter clients both desktop and mobile.
- Odi Kosmatos
Alec, i do. Why? I hate tiny EXEs taking up memory that my IDE needs
- Vivek Puri
Twitter is like Friendfeed with all your friends instead of just a few...
- Stephen Foskett
FriendFeed is like Facebook without the Apps
- Eli Juicy Jones
Is there a way to collapse the comments once you've opened them?
- Pete Smith
simran, mms might have failed cause all phones are not mms compatible
- Vivek Puri
LOL! the way I tend to use twitter, it's nothing BUT comments and likes.. just not any good threading unless you have peoplebrowsr (and even then)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It's not paused because Tweetdeck, etc. can refresh automatically. It has RTs instead of likes. I agree a client needs to implement inline YouTube/Flickr/etc. but these are client issues. FriendFeed client may be superior to Twitter's web client but there are other Twitter clients out there.
- Aral Balkan
Ooh, that said you can *edit* your stuff... oooh, now that I like :)
- Aral Balkan
no one uses the twitter website Robert. I actually like having a second client open to monitor things but that's me
- Seth Goldstein
Twitter doesn't have like but it has a favourite option. If spreading the word is the objective there is always an RT =D By the way, I have been using twitter website more since the new design rolled out.. feel snappier than before esp. when shuttling betw @mentions and home
- | Balu |
We're definitely intrigued by the convergence of the Friendfeed and Twitter (and new Facebook) UIs and the implications for usability and user conventions. First thoughts here: http://bit.ly/4muyzM
- CDG Interactive
@vivek, all phones did not introduce mms capability because the takup rate was abysmal! not all phones were SMS enabled when SMS came out!
- simran
@simran, SMS was made part of the GSM standard 24 years back. And current use of SMS is not what it was intended for. For more, you always have wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Vivek Puri
I am thinking that if know one uses the Twitter web interface then it's going to be a tough monetization unless they start charging a licensing fee for the API.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
But honestly...does it even really matter? After all having the best product has next to nothing to do with whether or not you have a dominant product in terms of marketshare.
- Devlin Dunsmore
I hope FriendFeed is not trying to be the next Twitter/Facebook and stays aware of it's core-feature which was (imho) a quick & dirty way of getting good discussions running.. I don't need real time updates of everything.. HEEEEEELP!
- Dan van Moll
looooooooooooooooooool Everyone is freaking out without toying with the lists I think!!! haha This is a funny day online.
- Aaron S
I wish Friendfeed had a "dislike" button too. (Not for this post, but others...)
- Kevin Trotman
... and this is what I like about Twitter.
- Benedikt Koehler
my thoughts - http://beta.friendfeed.com/dffrnt... :)
- vijay
Alec, I actually use Twitter.com itself and Tweetdeck. Alot of users do that too.
- Nicholas James
try wordster: http://www.mrwiggleslovesyou.com/rehab50...
- frank (francesco)
You mean it's not paused? ;)
- Joe Dawson
Yeah, seriously using the Twitter website for Twitter is like driving a car out of the factory with just wheels bolted to the engine, nothing else. The API is there but you're only getting the bare magic without the proper experience.
- Glenn Batuyong
But, I keep going back to the twitter web interface. It's a matter of critical mass of something something.
- Mike Nayyar
@vivek ... case in point... people transform technologies to be useful... they have done so with twitter, they will do so with ff... being part of the GSM spec means nothing... handsets had to support it and support for it grew after a lont time and bitwise... look at the practical uses, not theoretical papers, if you want to understand trending (as opposed to "possibility").
- simran
Gestern auch auf der Followerparty wieder über _zu viel_ Unsinn und mit zu _wenigen_ Frauen geredet u.ä.. Wie früher in der Schule. narf.
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Nerds halt... ;-)
- Wolf
socialmedian: The 10 Worst Microsoft Product Names of All Time http://www.socialmedian.com/story...
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Soll einen Zirkel, Hefe, Eier, Jogurt, Mehr und eine DVD kaufen. Was hat die Frau vor? #angst
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Einladung zum Gespräch: Kinderpornografie, Internetsperren und die Rolle des Staates in einer demokratischen digitalen Gesellschaft - http://www.spreeblick.com/feeder...
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Meine GTD-Listen lesen sich jetzt wie Twittertimeline: Katze füttern, Bier aufmachen, Twitter lesen, erst die Hose, dann die Schuhe ...
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