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Little known fact: Devices used in Apple keynotes run on Japanese Wifi freqs specifically to lessen the chances of interference from the myriad of other devices in the auditorium.
Mark Trapp, Shakeel Mahate, Louis Gray and 2 other people liked this
Is there anything similar for Bluetooth?
- Shakeel Mahate
It's called iPhone 4 so they can opt for a minor, incremental release next year (a la iPhone 3G[s]), add 4G support to it, and call it the iPhone 4[g]. I may have also just made that up.
Roberto Bonini, Zu from AOD, Rodfather and 2 other people liked this
Of all the Mark Trapps I know, you're my favorite.
- Akiva
Yay!
- Mark Trapp
That's gold, Jerry! Gold!
- Mark Trapp
Yup. definately.
- Roberto Bonini
Every time I see one of Apple's trademark "Jonathan Ive, Perfectly Chiseled Artist" videos, I always recall this photo: - http://marklr.com/post...
George S. liked this
What a difference 10 years of success makes, you smug bastard. (I kid! I kid, because I love.)
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
So who's getting an iPhone 4 at launch? I know I am. My iPhone 3G is old news.
Andrew Terry and RAPatton liked this
Been saving my wife's contract extension specifically for it.
- ronin
Me too... and I'm only 2 months into a contract with the HTC Desire!
- Andrew Terry
Preordering mine on the 15th :)
- Georgia
I'll probably wait until Fall to see what else is out there. No rush
- Rodfather
Also pre-ordering the 4, and then I'll hack my old iPhone 3G for other purposes.
- George S.
Will get one "for my wife."
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
If it came down to getting an iPhone 4 or an iPad, which would you choose?
Personally, the iPad. But they have significantly different feature sets; very hard to dichotomize the two.
- Mark Trapp
iPad. I use this a lot more than my phone.
- Rodfather
Hmmmm. The iPhone 4 does have HD video recording.
- Roberto Bonini
Apple Keynote chatting in the WWDC room! Come on down!
Peter Fedin, Stephen Mack #TeamMomo, Roberto Bonini and 3 other people liked this
Link?
- Ken Gidley
Click on the WWDC after "Kevin Fox to..." or click here: http://friendfeed.com/wwdc
- Kevin Fox
D'oh, of course... sigh.
- Ken Gidley
Neat: you can stream what you see on the back of the camera using FaceTime. As an open protocol, I can see things like UStream or Qik taking advantage of that.
Is my iPhone 3GS going to get the software update when the new phones come out? I have no desire for the new hardware but the software looks great
Yeah, June 21st.
- Mark Trapp
Awesome; thanks!
- Benjamin Golub
The Apple store is *not* down: http://store.apple.com/us
Kevin Fox, Stephen Mack #TeamMomo and Roberto Bonini liked this
Does that mean none of these announcements are going to be available today?
- Benjamin Golub
Or has Apple just improved the process of updating the store?
- Benjamin Golub
If not soon, then why would AT&T move everyone's eligibility up?
- Tinfoil 2.0
Maybe after 12 years they figured out how to do a push without taking the whole site down?
- Kevin Fox
Or perhaps setting up a flag bit they can flip.
- Kevin Fox
I bet Benjamin's right, not available today.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I think that famous Post-It has become too iconic for them not to do it.
- Roberto Bonini
June 24th, Benjamin wins. Not too long to wait.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I am surprised you cannot preorder today. That's weird.
- Louis Gray
Apple's site still hasn't refreshes. Usually by this time they'd have a homepage promo, a product page, a commercial and a documentary video up.
- Kevin Fox
Update: Product page is up: http://www.apple.com/iphone
- Kevin Fox
Can't log into AT&T
- Josh Haley
I feel for Steve Jobs's harping about the WiFi, I really do:
Rick Schmidt, Scoble, Alex Scoble, Louis Gray and 2 other people liked this
When I was a kid, I hosted a lan party at my house. We went nuts with electronics, tripping breakers a couple of times. I wanted my party to go off without a hitch, and I decided to blame the power troubles on a lava lamp someone brought. That became the running joke throughout the night: something went wrong? It's that damn lava lamp! Steve, it's not the lava lamp. It's just how it goes, sometimes.
- Mark Trapp
It was a mess during Google I/O's Google TV demo also.
- Louis Gray
They should just install RF jammers directed at the audience. Damned the illegality!
- Mark Trapp
Interesting, no change in price or storage from last year.
Louis Gray and Kevin (aka ThreadKilla) liked this
I would have paid $100 more for 64 gigs. Ah well.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
The storage thing is especially surprising to me given the added HD video capability.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Yeah, weird. With the iPad, I use the storage on the iPhone less and less, though; was expecting (read: hoping for) a lower price point (like an 8 GB iPhone 4 for $99) to break into the feature phone market.
- Mark Trapp
Scarily enough, the memory issue might be the result of constrained global supplies of those chips, hampered by the iPad's success.
- Kevin Fox
One more thing! *explodes*
bevedog, cyb, Kevin Johnson and Jimminy liked this
Close: FaceTime. Crap, is Face their new prefix? "One additional thing...we're buying Facebook!"
- Mark Trapp
Har!
- Micah
Interesting: Facetime will be open. Let's see how Skype responds.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Surprised it's not the same standard iChat AV uses. That'd be bitching if I could just iChat Video with people on the go.
- Mark Trapp
*facepalmtime*
- Jemm
Products launched: 2. Trademarks infringed: 2. Just another WWDC.
Louis Gray liked this
iOS and FaceTime you mean?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yep.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
He said there were 4 main points he wanted to make about the iPhone 4, right? The first three, while neat from a technical/industrial design perspective, are missing that "wow" factor.
Nah, he said 8 points.
- Kevin Fox
Ah, sweet. The front-facing camera would've had to be f-ing awesome to be the only new feature.
- Mark Trapp
GYROSCOPE?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yeah, that's awesome. Oh man, I hope they port the PS3's Flower or someone makes a knockoff to utilize it.
- Mark Trapp
EIGHT points. :)
- Louis Gray
So what are the eight points? I have lost track.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Industrial design, A4 processor, iMovie, iOS4, Camera, Gyroscope, Cornea-bleeder (edit: Retina) display. 7 and 8 haven't been revealed.
- Mark Trapp
I guess this slide? http://c1798852.cdn.cloudfiles... EDIT: No, that's iOS4.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
7 is iBooks for iPhone. ALREADY ANNOUNCED I WANT A DO-OVER
- Mark Trapp
8 is the renaming/adaptation of iTunes?
- Kevin Fox
Don't forget there is always the possibility of the infamous one more thing.
- Roberto Bonini
8 has gotta be the biggie. VERIZON?
- Kevin Fox
"iBooks will automatically and wirelessly — and for no charge — sync your place, notes, and bookmarks across all your devices" Does that include my mac?
- Kevin Fox
I think that wireless sync points to MobileMe free for all iOS users being point 8.
- Mark Trapp
#8 is going to be Apple buying both Facebook and Twitter, and then shutting them down for the good of humanity.
- Louis Gray
Hey! I wor- oh, nevermind.
- Kevin Fox
Teehee. Man, I bet he's going to cop out and use the price as point 8
- Mark Trapp
"VERIZON?" - the Antenna slide said UMTS and GSM, and HSPDA 7.2 was mentioned. Nothing about CDMA, WiMax, or LTE.
- John Craft
What about iChat?
- Kevin Fox
Don't worry, Kevin. Bret will be made CTO of Apple.
- Louis Gray
Oh, that's okay then.
- Kevin Fox
Louis, sadly, humanity doesn't deserve such good graces. :)
- Micah
#8 is just iAds. Yay.
- Louis Gray
Anticlimactic yawn.
- Kevin Fox
What's an iNad?
- Micah
Wait, Toy Story 3 is coming out on June 18th? ;-D
- Kevin Fox
heh
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
1: An all new design 2. Something we call the retina display. 3: A4, including better battery life 4: Sensors, including new gyro 5: A whole new camera system 6: iPhone OS4 (iOS4) 7: iBooks 8: iAds
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
... and one more thing?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
...ok that's a pretty damn cool one more thing.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Glad Apple is attempting to address the problem of the price deflation and the resulting reactionary iPad price inflation. The App Store exploded because of all the low-cost apps.
Kevin (aka ThreadKilla) liked this
Every time I see a 20 or 40 dollar one-function app or a 10 dollar throwaway casual game on the iPad App Store, I think, "wow, they must really hate their users."
- Mark Trapp
Throw Apple's pricing of their own apps into the mix too. iMovie seems like an amazing app. It's just $4.99. So any developer making an app less amazing than that will have to think very hard before pricing it above $4.99.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
iAd, iPhone, iOS, iPad, iTunes, iPod, iMac, iLife, iWork, iBooks, iMovie, iCal, iPhoto ... waiting for Apple to get to Js.
Stephen Mack #TeamMomo and Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart liked this
They'll go to J when Google goes to H.
- Kevin Fox
I have a jPhone
- Jesse Stay
So far, the iPhone 4 seems like it's caught up to the current generation of Android smart phones in terms of hardware features. Edit: surpassed in some places, even!
Hookuh Tinypants, ronin, Ashish and 3 other people liked this
Really? It seems to be pretty far ahead in display and my guess is that the camera will be better. Also, which Android phones have front-facing cameras?
- Kevin Fox
Or have GYROSCOPES? :)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Also, tap-to-focus while recording 720p/30fps video is something I've never heard of anywhere.
- Kevin Fox
The Dell whatever that was making the rounds yesterday has a front-facing camera. And I think yeah, the iPhone 4 has surpassed them, but a lot of the chatter a few weeks ago was about how the iPhone 3GS was a dinosaur compared to what HTC was releasing this quarter, even factoring into what was discovered in the iPhone leak. This keynote seems to say "lol no" to that mentality.
- Mark Trapp
Evo has a front facing camera (one of the majorly touted launch feature, even)
- Chieze Okoye
Or have iMovie?
- Roberto Bonini
Oops. Thought you were saying 'Apple has only caught up.' Standard knee-jerk fanboi response mode.
- Kevin Fox
Clarified. :-P
- Mark Trapp
Nice, Mark :)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
The 720p video is strong, the retina display is strong... good to see.
- Louis Gray
vs. the HTC EVO, it ties or exceeds on camera and camcorder, as well as thinness. :)
- Louis Gray
And, from what I've been reading, totally kills the EVO on battery life.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
yeah, nothing really comes close to 10 hrs of active browsing
- Chieze Okoye
When Steve Jobs tells you stop the internetting, you do it, gosh darn it.
Matt M (inactive), Stephen Mack #TeamMomo, ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ and 2 other people liked this
I have mixed feelings about gdgt continuing to live blog. On the one hand, I WANNA KNOW NOW. On the other hand, I don't want to make Steve Jobs mad, by golly.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Others are still live blogging. They're just doing it over 3G. http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010...
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
I'm not sure if Steve Jobs was mixing terms, but they reported he said there was like over 500 wifi hotspots in the room. If that's the case, seriously, there's no need for that many mifis.
- Mark Trapp
Couldn't steve switch to 3G?...I see, wifi only for the video calls.
- Todd Hoff
Steve performs Jedi Mind Trick on WWDC audience: "This is not the wifi access point you are looking for... Close your laptops and we'll be on our way."
Stephen Foskett noted that the phrase IOS has always referred to Cisco and not Apple. Note that Cisco previously owned the word iPhone prior to Apple as well, and that got worked out.
Stephen Foskett and Roberto Bonini liked this
So I think we can all safely predict that Apple is getting in the networks and routing business.
- Louis Gray
The list of why apps are rejected doesn't include the big one about "duplicates functionality we reserve for ourselves to sell."
Louis Gray and Roberto Bonini liked this
or porn
- Josh Haley
Because Kindle for iPad duplicates iBooks and still got approved.
- Roberto Bonini
Yeah, that bit of the presentation was disingenuous. "We reject 5% and these are the top three (completely defensible) reasons. Anything you read in the paper is therefore bunk." Um, what about reasons 4, 5, and 6? Which reasons were the Google Voice, Gmail, and that recent widget app rejected for?
- Kevin Fox
Oh, right. The Google ones weren't rejected. They're just part of the 5% that don't get approved within 7 days (or months)
- Kevin Fox
Roberto, I've speculated that if iBooks was out for a year before the Kindle came out it would be a different story, but Amazon was selling books for reading on the iPhone before Apple even started on iBooks, so they couldn't exactly revoke it.
- Kevin Fox
Well said, Kevin.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Or duplication of porn.
- Louis Gray
LOL Louis
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
How you feeling about our bet, Kevin? Android's up to 9%, that's nice.
Yah, Apple's ahead 3:1 right now and it seems to be falling. I didn't wanna say nuthin, but things are looking good. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Seven platforms and tons of "buy one get one free" deals and the best Android could do in Apple's slowest half of the sales year was get up to 9%? I think things are looking good for my position! :)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Blu, the bet is here: http://friendfeed.com/kfury...
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yup, iPhone had a big headstart.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
It's not about share. It's about betterness. :)
- Louis Gray
Huh, the 3GS photo seems over-pixellated. Just looking at my own phone I can tell the resolution is higher than the 'before' photo makes out.
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That's a feature, not a bug.
- Louis Gray
I never realized how small the A4 chip is!
Roberto Bonini liked this
HD video is nice, but there better 128GB iPhones coming. That video will eat up tons of storage space.
Stephen Mack #TeamMomo and Mark Trapp liked this
I hope you're right!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
THERE IS FLASH ON THE iPHONE
Mark Trapp liked this
Just not Adobe
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
There's also Flash memory.
- Kevin Fox
And I bet you could find Flash Gordon and maybe even Flash, the comic
- Jesse Stay
But, will it blend?
Tyoma Kazakov, Лёша, Jesse Stay and Roberto Bonini liked this
Yup looks like iMovie has blend as one of the transitions.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Oh wait, you may have meant something else.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Awesome Stephen. Jobs should make that joke.
- Kevin Fox
ROFL
- Roberto Bonini
Okay the backside illuminated sensor is huge. It should perform much better at higher ISOs for better low-light imaging.
Louis Gray, Stephen Mack #TeamMomo and Mark Trapp liked this
6-axis gyroscope? So when's the app to let me use my iPhone as a Wii controller? *Nowhere* because there's no place to attach a wrist strap!
Louis Gray, Josh Haley, Kevin (aka ThreadKilla) and Roberto Bonini liked this
That's what the case is for.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Oh right, duh. They'd also need padding to protect your friends from flung iPhones.
- Kevin Fox
Or, you know, spikes. ;)
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
I wonder how ZenBound will be modified to take advantage of this...
- Kevin Fox
I can just imagine the local news puff piece about people spinning around at subway stops because they're playing games with an iPhone 4.
- Mark Trapp
So, if iPhone 4 battery lasts 40% longer than the 3GS battery and the three 3GS battery already lasts longer than the EVO battery, how are all you EVO fanbois feeling now?
They're not in the room, I bet.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
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