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Thomas Hawk's Digital Connection - http://thomashawk.com/2004...
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"The photo above marks my 20,000th upload to Flickr. My first photo uploaded to Flickr was uploaded on January 2, 2005, four years ago. Over the past four years, sharing photos online has redefined how I view my own work. I have found inspiration from other photographers daily and I've met some truly, truly amazing artists, photographers and people participating in this new world of social photography along the way. Thanks to everyone who over the last four years has stopped by my photos and left a note, a comment, a fave -- touch from one human being to another. Your testimonials, your emails, your blog comments, spending a few hours walking around San Francisco or Oakland or Berkeley or Hollywood or Sacramento or Las Vegas or Portland or Seattle or New York or New Orleans or anyplace else our paths have crossed, in real life or online have held great meaning for me. I've appreciated the feedback, I've appreciated the friendship, I've appreciated the support. It's made me a better photographer. It's ma"
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Congratulations Thomas... You are certainly an ispiration to me :)
- Johnny Worthington
Well done!
- Simon Wicks
Thank you Thomas. Looking forward to the following 20,000 photos.
- Håkan Dahlström
Congratulations, TH. :)
- Mona Nomura
Congratulations, Thomas!
- Emma
Wow, congrats, so only a few more to get to your 1million target. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Is that Mechanics? Oh, btw there is a 5pm protest at Civic Center if you're in the area and feel like shooting.
- B. Hatin
Congratulations, Thomas. I always enjoy your work. Keep up with the good work, man.
- imabonehead
This is great, Thomas. Your work is always inspiring.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
20.000 photos is a job well done. 20.000 quality photos is an achievement!
- daysleeper
Congratulations my friend. Keep them coming!
- Chris Nixon
yeah, it's at the Mechanics library. Protest at Civic Center sounds interesting. May have to check that out today. Thanks! And thanks to all for the kind words.
- Thomas Hawk
Congrats. I am inspired by your photos and enjoy looking at your work. Only 980,000 to go =)
- Dylan Parker
Great stuff! Thomas, wondering just now: How much time do you estimate you spend hand-editing each photo - on average?
- Micah Wittman
And all quality. Congrats Thomas. Look forward to many more with the new 5D
- Andrew Smith
It's remaind me this view in many triler film espcialy film by graet Alferd Hichcak
- arashdarya
Keep them coming Thomas, your pics brighten up my FF :-)
- Sally Church
And just think, your best work is still ahead of you. We are so lucky! ;)
- Charlie Owen
Go Thomas! Love your stuff & your contributions to the FF community. As someone who's barely posted 5% of my pictures on-line yet, I really appreciate the time and long-term dedication it takes to share your creative photographs and vision with all of us. :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
Nice photo, Thomas, and congratulations on the milestone.
- Colonel Tribune
Congrats Thomas. Your ability to produce such a quantity of images while maintaining such outstanding quality is an inspiration to us all.
- Eric P
Amazing photo, and you my friend are an inspiration for all amateur photographers out there.
- Gavin
Congratulations! And thank you for inspiring me to shoot more photos than ever and to share them on Zooomr.
- Zian Choy
Kudos to you. You rule.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Okay, so I'm thinking about getting a new camera come the new year. I'm debating between the 5D (mk I) and the 50D since the price difference is about $100 now. the big draw to the 50D is I can still use all my EF-S lenses. The big draw to the 5D is full frame. Anyone have experience with both?
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Justin, I'm looking to switch gears and make my dabbling with food photography more than just a hobby. I was advised to go with the 5D because it is full frame. That's about the extent of my knowledge. Last time I was this entrenched with photography, we were all still shooting film.
- Derrick
i'd go with the 5d and keep your 20d on reserve as the secondary body. the pluses (feature/capability-wise) of the 5d outweigh the 50.
- Carlos Ayala
Exactly. What Carlos said. ;)
- Derrick
Carlos - I agree, but here is my thought process...if I wasn't considering making a dab into the photography world (portraits, events, etc), I would probably get the 50d so I would continue to be able to use my lenses. So, why not get the 50d now, rent the 5D on gigs that I get paid for and as/if the money flows, buy higher end gear then.
- Justin Korn
Not even close. 5D all the way.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas - I knew your thoughts on it :) but considerng my comment above, what do you think?
- Justin Korn
from IM
What EF-S lenses? I agree the 5D (full frame) is attractive but if you are attached to those lenses then keeping a crop might be the way to go.
- Andrew Smith
I've got the 40D and I've avoided buying EF-S lenses for the reason I knew I'd want a 5D. Saving for the 5D MkII and will be looking to unload the 40D
- Andrew Smith
I'm waiting for the 5D MkII to become widepsread in the next month or so, and hope to pick up an original 5D on the cheap. Speaking of, any good and reputable used camera places online to keep on my radar? I know of keh.com and the used stuff on bhphotovideo.com
- Derrick
Remember, the camera body is the single lEAST important part of the photography workflow. In order of importance to making great photographs:1) Your brain. 2)The light. 3)The lens. 4)The body. Having said that, if you're going to spend the $$$ and the 5D is only $100 more, go get the 5D. Then get some great glass. for food photography, you'd probably be really happy with a 50mm f2 macro.
- David Sifry
from twhirl
For 100 bucks more, I'd go with the 5D. Better low light performance and full frame. Having to give up some lenses is a bummer, but you can sell them and put that cash towards a new EF lens.
- Jeremy Brooks
I think I might go with the 50D simply because it's 3 years newer. The 5D is a great camera, but if you're going to lose your EF-S lenses it's more than $100 more in the end. A 5D warrants good glass, be prepared to upgrade to L glass to really make the most of the system.
- Ryan
The 5D is a great camera. I believe it has better low light performance than the 50D. If you want to shoot wide angle, the full frame will make that much easier. I'd consider selling the EF-S glass and getting one or two good pieces of "L" glass regardless of which body you go with.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I have a 5D, which I dearly love, but there is one downside for people who don't own a bunch of expensive L lenses. You will really need those expensive L lenses to get the most out of the 5D. If you have them or you have budget for them, I would say go with the 5D hands down.
- Michael Hocter
Oh, and that stuff about the body being the least important part of photography... That may have been true with film cameras, but it doesn't ring true in the digital era. I think the sensor, processor, and software inside the body are now at least as important as the lenses. Anyway, both of these bodies will produce pretty stunning photographs, the imaging quality will be fairly similar. The 50D is probably a little better at flash photography and of course long teles, and the 5D is better for wide angle.
- Michael Hocter
I'm having the same debate, and came down on the side of the 5D. For what I shoot - portraits, landscapes, architectural - the 50D's benefits don't really matter, and it seems like overall image quality is better with the 5D. And some zoom lenses (like the 24-105 f/4L) cover a much more useful range on the full-frame camera.
- David Moore
Thanks for all the input so far. @David Sifry - I'm going to have to agree with Micheal Hocter on that camera bodies are in fact an important factor these days. Since I find myself in a lot of low light situations, a sensor that can handle 1600 ISO+ is really important to me...particularly when zoom lenses (typically what I use for events) don't particularly come less then f/2.8.
- Justin Korn
As for investing in L lenses, again, this is why I was thinking about getting the 50D now and as I build my lens family, going forward, only invest in L lenses or at the very least, lenses that are EF (not EF-S).
- Justin Korn
This thread is most excellent. Wide angle stuff is probably best for me and while the innards of the 5D are old, they are also tried and true. I look forward to making use of all you truly smart people once I start shooting again. Now, off to find a used 5D on the cheap...
- Derrick
I want either the Canon 5D (Mk II) or the Nixon D3X, but my budget is < $100. Any suggestions?
- Mistletoe Glen
Pad of paper and a pencil? ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
Actually if you are on a tight budget, you can buy a Rebel XTi or XS with a kit lens for less than $500. Both are excellent cameras.
- Jeff P. Henderson
fwiw, I love my d-lux 4 (& 1-3) incomparable optics with leica
- Scott Moskowitz
Glen - are you kidding? Is that suppose to be $1,000? Even at <$1,000 you aren't going to get near the 5D mk ii for a few years (don't know about the Nikon).
- Justin Korn
If ISO1600+ is important as is overall IQ, then 5D is the way to go. 50D at high ISO is not bad but is a bit too grainy in my eyes. When it comes down to AF, I think the 50D has the better system for your purposes with better peripheral AF points. You really need to be comfortable with focus+recompose w/the center point with the 5D as the other points can be a bit iffy in low light.
- ronin
I think renting the 5D is a bad move. They are not cheap to rent. Plus any money spent renting is sort of wasted. Sell the old lenses on eBay and buy the 5D. If you can afford it buy the 135 f/2 lens to go with it to start. I think you already have the 50mm f/1.4 right?
- Thomas Hawk
TH - I see what you are saying, but if I sell the EF-S lenses, I'll have nothing to go with my 20D (which I still need as a back up and secondary camera). So selling off all the lenses is not an option (yet). Another way I could go is to grab the 5D and use it with my 50mm (which is arriving on Thursday!) for now and rent lenses during paying gigs while I slowly invest in L glass.
- Justin Korn
@Justin, EF lenses will work just fine on your 20D. You could also rent specific lenses if you need them for an event, which would be much cheaper than renting a 5D body.
- Jeff P. Henderson
@Jeff - HAHA!! I total forgot that if I sell the EF-S lenses and buy EF lenses I could use them with the 20D! Man...I think I need to go back to sleep.
- Justin Korn
I think if you can get the 5D for only $100 more than the 50D, it's a no-brainer. Just curious, but where can you get the 5D for that price? I'm close to buying a new body myself ...
- Andre Maltais
Okay, so the suggested route seems to be: Buy 5D, sell EF-S lenses (10-22 and 18-55; keep my 18-200 for traveling), buy L lens (suggestions?), and rent lenses as needed for events...
- Justin Korn
@stretta - that is what I was thinking at first, but I think going with the 5D makes sense
- Justin Korn
Something no one has mentioned are the ergonomics of the body: the 50D has the 640x480 LCD screen with LiveView and it's spectacular (it's the same one as on the 5D MkII which I have). I upgraded from a 20D and the high-quality, high-res LCD screen is a much bigger bonus than most reviews point out. I still think the image quality of the original 5D is better than the 50D--especially since the tightly-packed sensor sites on the 50D push most lenses beyond their capabilities. But, on the other hand....
- Tommy Williams
.... (continuing) if you have a big investment in EF-S lenses, it's going to be hard to let those go and move to full frame. It's precisely the reason I never bought EF-S lenses for my 20D over the 4 years I owned it.
- Tommy Williams
@Andre - It's actually closer to $150 difference. On Amazon and BHPhoto, I saw the 50D for $1099 and the 5D for $1250.
- Justin Korn
@Tommy - I know...I made the mistake of grabbing a few great EF-S lenses and here I am paying for it. Lesson learned!
- Justin Korn
You may want to recheck those prices. Lowest I've seen on either site for a new 5D is $1999. Lowest price on either site is $1439 on Amazon for a used 5D.
- ronin
I have a 5D and I absolutely love it... full-frame is great. Wouldn't trade it for any other camera, except of course for the mark II.
- Shawn Duffy
from twhirl
@saeba - I must have seen a Black Friday special or something! DOH!
- Justin Korn
For lens suggestions, my standard lens is the 24-70mm, f/2.8L lens.. great lens... I also have the 70-200mm, f/2.8L IS lens which may not work for every day walkaround use but just may be the best lens canon makes, imho
- Shawn Duffy
from twhirl
@Shawn - I drool over the 70-200 2.8 IS. Someday...someday... Are there any L lenses in the mid range zoom with IS?? I love my EF-S 18-55 2.8 IS and would need to find something to match it if I were to sell it.
- Justin Korn
Unfortunately the only mid-range zoom that has IS is the 24-105/4IS. I'd recommend the 24-70/2.8 as well. It's gonna be a HEAVY combo though so be prepared. ;-)
- ronin
I just bought the EF 24-105L f/4 with IS for my walkaround lens. I love it.
- Andre Maltais
I'll second the rave review for the 70-200 f2.8 IS L. It is probably one of the best if not the best zoom Canon makes. If you want an excellent L prime lens that is reasonably priced, I'd take a look at the 135 f2.0 L. It is one of the best primes that Canon makes and it sells for around $800, which is cheap for an L lens.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Before my first batch of camera gear was "lost" by an airline, I had the 24-105 f/4L IS lens. It is a fantastic lens and excellent for general purpose use. After I got my insurance check (BUY INSURANCE FOR YOUR GEAR), I decided to go with the 24-70,f/2.8L lens for the wider aperture. It, too, is an excellent lens. As to whether the f/2.8 and no IS is better than f/4 with IS, I suppose that's up to the photographer. I had a tough time choosing but I'm very happy with it.
- Shawn Duffy
I just wanted to thank everyone for their input again. This has been an awesome, informative, and helpful thread. Hope others have found it useful as well.
- Justin Korn
from IM
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