"Is it fair to say that bloggers seem to be slotted into the DNC universe here in Denver as less party activists than as members of the press, with all of the benefits and indignities that carries? Three days into the convention, it seems to me that like that might be the case." - Christian Crumlish
"Yeah, because conservative Republicans really love voting for women.
And Americans in general just can't wait to put another Texan in the white house.
I think this is yet another PUMA-tastic headfake." - Christian Crumlish
"actually, he had hostile majorities that undermined him up-front. they pulled a Carter on him and paid the price. yes, he also overplayed his hand. but those were majorities that still included the last tide of white supramecist southern democrats and we had to lose them to rebuild.
it's always more complicated than a blog comment." - Christian Crumlish
“I'm looking for recommendations for sci-fi fantasy titles (after avoiding them for years). Right now I'm looking for feminist fantasy/sci-fi and have come up with titles by Sarah Hall and Cheryl Bernard. Thanks in advance!”
Shadowmarch (Tad Williams) might be okay, or the Dragonriders of Pern (Anne MCaffrey), or Memory and Dream (Charles de Lint) (haven't read that one in ages) - sergiooo
I highly recommend "Portable Childhoods" by Helen Klages. One of the most satisfying short story collections I've ever read in recent memory. And an introduction by Neil Gaiman has to be good for something, right? - Barry Wynn
Mists of Avalon, Marion Zimmer Bradley - it isn't Sci-fi. Just fantasy. - Yolanda
It's been a long, long time for me as well... *ponder* All I can recall atm is Mercedes Lackey... and of course the classic Anne McCaffrey, who is one of the best female or male. - Michael W. May (Joffi)
My favorite sci-fi author Alan Dean Foster has a ton of good books - orionstarr
I don't know any good feminist fantasy/sci-fi authors, but my experience in recent years is that the best modern sci-fi comes from British authors. - RAPatton
My wife says that Octavia Butler is the go-to author. She recommends "Kindred" for the story, "Xenogenesis" series for the feminism. - Steve Lawson
Try Sherri Tepper - I haven't read her stuff in a while, but IIRC there are feminist themes. - ellbeecee
sergiooo, I've read Tad Williams' Otherworld series. It was good, but man, he needs to learn to tie up a story in less than 3000 pages. :D - Cecily Walker
Steve, thanks for the recommendation. I've read everything Butler wrote. - Cecily Walker
Thanks, Chuck. I'll add those to my rapidly growing list. - Cecily Walker
Ha! Butler did seem like an obvious recommendation, but since you didn't mention her, I thought I should. - Steve Lawson
If we're talking graphic novels, then give "Transmetropolitan, by Warren Ellis a look. Also in books, I really like William Gibson. I've read 3 of the "cyberpunk" novels, "Burning Chrome", a short story collection, and "Pattern Recognition (where I'd recommend you start). "Spook Country" is on deck. - Barry Wynn
Barry, I lost my faith in Gibson after Spook Country. Don't even get me started. And as for Neil Gaiman, I want to have eleventy billion of his babies, that's how much I lurve him. - Cecily Walker
These are all great suggestions, everyone - my library list is getting a mile long! - Cecily Walker
I mentioned this on another Sci-Fi thread but have you read Mosley's Futureland? Short story collection. Not necessarily feminist focused (although he doesn't shy away from strong/robust female characters) but definitely an interesting read. - Jason Toney
I hadn't heard of it Jason - thanks! *adds to list* - Cecily Walker
Marge Piercy, Woman on the Edge of Time... anything by Ursula LeGuinn (sp?), such as Lathe of Heaven... I am partial to Doris Lessing's Shikasta series too. - Christian Crumlish
Doris Lessing. She has a truly unique voice and she won the Nobel last year (though not for her SF). Her "Canopus in Argos" series was critically well received, although to me her writing bears the indelible taint of the 70s. - Chuck LeDuc Díaz
Cecily, re: "Spook Country"... *le sigh*... well I'mma read it anyway. Re: Ellis, Transmet is not a "feminist" book, but Ellis writes really strong female characters. and he's a hoot. - Barry Wynn
I second the James Tiptree, Jr. nomination. The amazing female characterizations were more easily explained when I found out she wasn't really a dude. Most of her fiction is YA-oriented. - Chuck LeDuc Díaz
Cecily, what were your problems with Spook Country? - Kyle Hebert
Kyle, I think my biggest problem is it was set up to be this great world-changing mystery and it ended up being about... well, if you've read it, you know how it ended. I just felt cheated. I've liked many of Gibson's other works, but this was the first one that I was disappointed in. - Cecily Walker
Not necessarily feminist, but John Scalzi has positive portrayals of strong women in his Old Man's War world of books: Old Man's War, The Ghost Brigades, The Lost Colony, and Zoe's Tale came out last week. - Katie
Okay, this might be pushing you too far but... Alan Moore and J.H. Williams' "Promethea". Some people absolutely hate it, but it spends a lotta time exploring the role of women in the cultural and spiritual imaginations. - Roger Benningfield
I like the ending quite a bit actually. And I didn't see it as a world-changing mystery, but a mystery that explains how the world has changed. - Kyle Hebert
Gibson's plots have been slowly moving backward in time from the distant future (+70 yrs) to the present. I like his quote "the future is here, it's just not evenly distributed." - Chuck LeDuc Díaz
I'll also recommend Walter Jon Williams, particularly "Metropolitan" & "City on Fire" with a strong female protagonist. I like his other books too. - Chuck LeDuc Díaz
Roger, I think "Promethea" is an excellent suggestion. - Barry Wynn
"that's what people write when their blog post only includes the content up to that point on the main page of their site, with the entire post on the archive page (which is what is linked here), so the text becomes nonsensical in its ultimate context." - Christian Crumlish
Biden has the best staff in the senate: "As a result of having a staff that is so good, Biden is almost never behind the curve of policy developments. He’s proactive, not reactive.That’s a huge strategic advantage, and as a result, becoming a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is a badge of validation among foreign policy folks. Further than that, you’ll hear from many foreign policy experts how closely they work with Biden. They’re not making it up. Biden counts on a broad range of people to get the job done right. Many, many people feel they have influence on his approach and as a result when the final product is announced, they feel invested, but the view is all Biden, and usually better. Biden collects the best. Simple as that." - Christian Crumlish
"shouldn't they let "I can't remember how many houses my family corporation owns for me"-gate play out completely before resetting the news cycle?" - Christian Crumlish
"I like Richardson but haven't there been persistent womanizing rumors ("where there's smoke"). Plus, Obama is disciplined and lean. Richardson has the body of a much slacker, self-indulgent man. Not judging him but in terms of personal style it may not be a fit.
Make Richardson ambassador to the UN or send him back to talk sense into the North Koreans." - Christian Crumlish
"It occurs to me that John McCain is as intellectually shallow as our current president." Do we really want to elect another good-time party-hearty family-connected, semi-intelligent flyboy president? - Christian Crumlish
"This is a dictionary of algorithms, algorithmic techniques, data structures, archetypal problems, and related definitions. Algorithms include common functions, such as Ackermann's function. Problems include traveling salesman and Byzantine generals. Some entries have links to implementations and more information. Index pages list entries by area and by type. The two-level index has a total download 1/20 as big as this page." - Christian Crumlish
I find that Google Reader is making me smarter and is a great way to start conversations that make me smarter over on FriendFeed. FriendFeed lately has gotten a little too superficial for my tastes as we've seen a raft of bacon and other goofy things get a lot of discussion. Google Reader brings me a much higher percentage of smart posts with little noise, much different than Twitter or FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
You are right. It is much less superficial. There is more intentional sharing, making it much more valuable then the basis at which Friendfeed aggregates content for you. If someone takes the time to write a post, and you have chosen to follow him because he provides value) the basis is already much better than FF. - Alexander van Elsas
Aren't you at a disadvantage since you subscribe to so many people? One of the key features of FF is the ability to filter the noise. I can honestly say I've seen no Bacon or any other pork-related discussion ;) because FF filters everything for me. But the filter still brings me interesting new people. I may be a wrong but I think these little meshed cocoons are what will bring FF mainstream - Cains
Robert - I like the playful nature of FriendFeed, but I also tire of it at times. Hide has been useful lately. - Hutch Carpenter
being that RSS readers still aren't mainstream, no. - Sam Harrelson via twhirl
I think this is another way of saying "Has Robert Scoble declared RSS bankruptcy?" - Nick O'Neill via twhirl
@Cains: I agree. Those who feel the need to add friends in FF, in the same way they follow on Twitter, are at a disadvantage when it comes to the power (and, dare I say: personal sustainability) of FriendFeed. The goals, for me, of all of these services: reduction of noise, education, entertainment (a distant third). Everyone wants to mimic the success of Scoble: good luck with that. - Stagekid
i think feed readers will keep working as knowledge bringers,sites like twitter,friendfeed et al however are breaching the distance from the reading the the conversation. inevitable also, is the fact that as services gain mass reach, the also average the content down to the middle. it's part of the reason "edgelings" move toward new smart-only-for-now services. - Ruben Llibre
Robert, I agree that FF is a little superficial, but I this was *Social* Media, i.e. conversation/sharing/exchange, rather than *Intellectual* Media. It's more like a party than a seminar, as it should be. I would love a place to have purely intellectual conversations in a social media framework. I can get a little bit of both from FF, but it does tend to be varied and yes, at times superficial. I like that aspect of it, but I can see your frustration given your objectives for what you want to get from it. - steplow is Steve
Most of my blogs readers still use RSS, they love RSS and were the early adapters as well. It's the blogs that depend on CPM advertising cash that don't want you using a feed reader. - paul mooney
With a Google Reader reader like Feedly the information comes in looking good, and the integration with FriendFeed makes it easy to put anything worthwile through. I think motherloads of people still think RSS is something you get from using your mouse too much, so declaring it death is way too early. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
I think the bigger item of interest is that the RSS readers are evolving. gReader includes notes, and you can share posts. All of the aggregation platforms do similar things. Basically, RSS is just the format, the display is changing. This is a good thing. - Rob Diana
RSS hasn't climbed the mountain of the masses yet. And it will. Just wait. - Jeroen Mirck
Good Question !! I have stopped using bloglines and/or Greader for the most part. However, most of thoses RSS gets pipped into my FF 'imagainy feed" named "restofworld" . So content is still getting aggregated, However the vehicle for such aggregation has now become FF. - Peter Dawson
These days firing up my RSS reader of choice is as stressful and inefficient as is walking into the magazine section at Barnes N Noble with the intention to "discover and catch up on interesting content". *Traditional* RSS consumption by human beings simply doesn't scale IMO. In the long-run we are all bound to call it quits. - Aviv
IMO the fluff means that FriendFeed is getting more popular. If any system wishes to keep from trending toward entropy, it needs to be insular in some fashion, or require a deliberate push toward order. I agree with Jeroen, RSS will become more chaotic as it is adopted more widely. - J. Phil
@Nick: forget RSS bankruptcy - has Scoble just declared FriendFeed fatigue? ;) - Aviv
I agree with Cains. The movement away from pure intellectual discussion on FF makes me believe it's becoming more mainstream. It is inevitable. I for one welcome it, and look forward to services like NoiseRiver to help control the noise for those who are looking for a more filtered experience. - Hao Chen
@Hao: I agree. I think that for many of us the existing FF "flow" is slowly becoming "too raw" for sustainable direct consumption (some say it moves too fast, content too random, noisy discussions, childish LOL cats, not mainsteam enough, too geeky, etc.) Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a flaw in the FF design - if anything, I think it will prove to be FF's greatest strengths when more advanced third-party FF utilities are introduced. What I think will end up happening is that each user will pick one or two favorite apps or ways to enjoy FF and stick with that for a while - some may go for a simple app that lets them change the color scheme, while others may be interested in extreme filtering techniques. - Aviv
" FF "flow" is slowly becoming "too raw" for sustainable direct consumption" YES that is a fact. With that in mind, thats why my pvt rooms are important to me. I keep my rss feeds aggregated and still have quality content w/out any of the noise that I get on friends tab. FF is a dual edged. On one hand we can create convo's and on the other hand we can just use it as an RSS aggregator. - Peter Dawson
J. Phil is right: the fluff does mean that FF is getting more popular and bringing in a wider audience. I'm not too frustrated by it, just hit hide and move on. But, I do notice that we get lazy and stop bringing in interesting stuff, so I'm redoubling my efforts to go to Google Reader and make sure that I bring a ton of stuff in here to make sure we don't just talk about bacon. - Robert Scoble
It's not over by a long shot, but it aint mainstream either. - Steve Rubel
I've found myself neglecting Google Reader too much at times as well, instead gorging on FF bacon :) I've been trying to get back into flying thru Google Reader with SHIFT+S at the ready - jeff
I don't ever open up a reader. I just use Thunderbird and it's always there and up to date. No pain all gain. - todd
+1 for bacon discussions and other goofy things on FF. Mixed in with tech news of course. - Mike Doeff
The use of RSS isn't over for me until more people from the hospitality industry move into using sites like twitter/friendfeed. - Shane Keener
for me, working in media relations, RSS is the only way to scan a lot of headlines in various industries. RSS for news, FriendFeed for conversations perhaps. FriendFeed for commenting and opinions and conversations, RSS readers for REAL NEWS. - Mike Lizun
My Google Reader is for me. It's for information that I don't necessarily need to share with others (like MLBTraderumors.com) or various other feeds that are in my industry (footwear). I use it for catching up on the things I know interest me. FF is like going to the local pub and catching up on the random silliness, tech news, etc that I may or may not be exposed to in my own personal day to day business. They serve two separate but sometimes overlapping needs..... - George Smith
Hate to say it, but FF and Twitter have replaced my rss reader... I miss it and I don't. - Andrew Hyde
I love my RSS feeds - no intention of giving them up. In fact, still waiting for some sites to get with the program. - William Harryman
Toluu is a great rss aggrigator. It is a community based app that identifies "users" that have similar interest to yours and allows you to see thier feeds and subscribe to them. I've found many great feeds and learn much more than casual browing could accomplish - Scott Schang via feedalizr
Well, for RSS it's definitely not. RSS is a standard. RSS Readers are clients. What you are referring to is if RSS Readers per se are dead. Which my answer is definitely not. I'm still very much addicted to Google Reader, and sometimes I have http://snackr.net playing on my monitor. IMHO, of course. - JungleG
For me, Google Reader allows me to pull the web in when I want whereas my feeling of FF is that I would need to adapt to when it pulls in feeds and discussion. That said, I'm sure third party FF apps could address this issue. - bendi via twhirl
Not even close. RSS is a major part of my daily routine. The problem with things like FriendFeed is that it's all about buzz, and little actual content. 99 people ranting about the same exact thing. I suspect PR and marketing folks have largely saturated it already, just as many tech blogs are nothing more than reformatted press releases. RSS feeds let me easily keep tabs on sites I trust. Not to mention RSS is used all over backends for most Social sites as well as news sites. It's the true news api. - Robert Accettura
RSS is far from dead, and that said,does anything truly die on the internet, I know lots of people who still use news servers (news://). plus I agree with Scoble, RSS readers make me smarter. I start everyday off with Google Reader reading the news, trade publication articles and other stories that expand my knowledge. I then head over to FriendFeed & SocialThing to see what others think is interesting and what they are talking about. - nick carrasco
I abandoned Google Reader when I started using FriendFeed. RSS readers are too cluttered and social filtering of RSS makes for far better content discovery. - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas Hawk, Google Reader is not the best tool for content discovery, but that's not what I use it for. I use it for staying current with content channels I've already discovered. - J. McConnell
for me, there is still lots of information that I don't get on ff or twitter, but do in google reader. I often find a good bit of new .NET tips that I don't think I would otherwise see. I think it's a bit too soon to cast off RSS readers until everyone is pushing all of their updates to all [important] services. - Steve Long via twhirl
Having divergent interests, and quite a few subscriptions in Google Reader, I am regularly back and forth between it and FriendFeed. I find the two very complementary - I enjoy and have learned from the perspectives of those I subscribe to and respect here, which prompts me to search for additional content in GR to absorb. RSS definitely maximizes my online time, FriendFeed enhances it. - Jody C
GReader is for slow and indepth consumption, Friendfeed is fast food. I like both, but they say too much fast food is unhealthy. - Alexander van Elsas
I still use my Bloglines account regularly as it's the best way to keep up with sites that I like to read on a regular basis in a format that makes sense for me. RSS and stuff like FriendFeed are different in similar manner to how watching TV and using a DVR are different. One just gives you random stuff based on someone else's idea of what I should see and the other allows me to control the content that I see much more effectively. - AlexScoble(Robert'sBro)
If GReader is luxurious dining out, and FF is fast food, then what would be a nice, custom home-cooked meal? - Hao Chen
RSS readers are not even close to over! I get a constant stream of quality news and information, custom tailored to my interests. Still way better quality than anything I could get from a social networking site such as FriendFeed. I get much less noise from my RSS feed, without having to go through the effort to manually filter/hide stuff I don't care about, like I have to do on social networks. - Jeff P. Henderson
For me writing a blog post is a conscious intentional act. If I subscribe to a blog I know I will get quality material (most of the time). Aggregation such as with Friendfeed is very different. too many sources and too many unintentional shares. As a result there is more content that is less interesting. In GReader you don't need filters, noise reduction schemes or whatever. You either subscribe or you don't. FF lets you consume fast, discover, but also gives you massive amounts of useless content. - Alexander van Elsas
@Robert, quite the contrary - Google Reader has become even more important to me and its still the first place I go. Much less noise and topics I care about right away as well as smart recommendations. FF's strength is its ability to handle conversations. A combination of both would be utopia for me. - Ron Emrick
i think this has been a case of "narrative bias" (e.g. i'm bored with it so the whole world must be bored with it as well). RSS readers (particularly GReader) are stronger than ever. Google Reader is an integral part of my information gathering/filtering/sharing (e.g. sharing via FF). - ~C4Chaos
I think people will become even more selective with what feeds they add to their reader and will look for personal recommendations for those 'hidden gem' blogs that they don't know about yet, but would love. - Caleb Elston
I think that RSS Readers need a few new features to make them feel less like email clients. First I'd like the ability to set a time to live for the articles in some blogs. It's ok to miss articles from one feed because if it's important it'll show up somewhere else later, a lot of people say that's they switched from RSS readers to twitter. - Shawn McCollum
Next is to add a feature to manage the "me too" posts. I've been reading my feeds via a tag cloud where the important to me articles bubble up, sometimes by shear number of posts (iphone related). From my cloud I click on say iphone and I can view all the posts about the iphone, see if it's interesting read or mark read. It's really cut down the time I spend reading just to catch up on what's going on. - Shawn McCollum
when feedreaders are better at whitelisting items for my attention i'll probably get hooked again but i stopped regularly using a feedreader nearly four years ago and have done just fine letting my friends filter the web for me (that's what social media means to me). - Christian Crumlish
"Instead of speaking softly and wielding a big stick, as Teddy Roosevelt recommended, the American policeman has been loudly lecturing the rest of the world while waving an increasingly unimpressive baton." - Christian Crumlish