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MUST HAVE MEGA NERF WEAPON! - http://www.gamesparadise.com.au/product...
6 D size batteries, wow!
- Peter Kelley
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How Harvard Medical School prposes to solve Strong Identity Management - http://geekdoctor.blogspot.com/2009...
"Physical Access (hundreds of existing doors that have smart card readers) - Smart cards Fast trusted login in the Emergency Department (100 devices that are kept in a closed physical space) - Biometrics Generalized two factor authentication for e-prescribing controlled substances (thousands of devices and hundreds of users) - Cell phone approaches"
- Peter Kelley
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Canada Health Infoway - Canada Health Infoway - http://www.infoway-inforoute.ca/lang-en...
Canada's answer to NEHTA
- Peter Kelley
Ninite Easy PC Setup and Multiple App Installer - Great For Win7 Upgrades - http://ninite.com/
Install all the apps you need
- Peter Kelley
I COULD SURE GO SOME CREPES RIGHT NOW
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Crêpes, creeps? Crepees
- Mo Kargas
3.5" OR 5.25" CREPES? OR MAYBE EVEN 8" ONES?
- Akiva Moskovitz
would you accidentally the whole thing?
- holly
THE ONES WITH THE THING ON
- Mo Kargas
YEAH I GOTTA CREPE TOO
- sofarsoShawn
YA YA CHOCOLATE CREPE
- Mo Kargas
FUDGEY
- sofarsoShawn
Yeah except you need to get some air defence before those flying ones come along or you are hosed for sure!
- Peter Kelley
WITH TEH CREEM
- Mo Kargas
You want nuts as well Mo?
- Johnny Worthington
NOT FROM YOU
- Mo Kargas
To bad... *drops pant*...
- Johnny Worthington
JOHNNY I DONT LIKE CHIPOLATAS ON MY CREPES
- Mo Kargas
& DON'T FORGET THE CORN
- sofarsoShawn
I certainly know that... *jealous turn on heel*...
- Johnny Worthington
BEGONE FOUL WENCH!
- Mo Kargas
SAVORY CREPES OR SWEET CREPES?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
THE ONES WITH THE ICECREAMS AND HARD CHOCOLATE STUFF AND ORANGE
- Mo Kargas
NOM NOM NOM NOM.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Me too!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
from iPod
MMM
- Mo Kargas
Australian Health Information Technology: NEHTA Releases a Concept of Operations for the Health Identifiers. - http://aushealthit.blogspot.com/2009...
"Last it is clear that unless there have been all sorts of secret meetings going on and payments arranged there is going to a exist a bright shiny service with no one having proven and widely implemented software to use the service."
- Peter Kelley
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We need hospital beds, not super clinics | The Australian <- Interesting opinion but we tried decentralised hospital admin - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...
"The administration of public hospitals should be decentralised, with state governments required to close down outrageously over-staffed area health services and re-establish independent local hospital boards."
- Peter Kelley
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This is a test. #bushfires
I ended up creating a FriendFeed room on bushfires last summer pulling feeds from lots of places
- Peter Kelley
Lullabot Podcast 80: Top 40 Drupal Modules Revisited | Lullabot - http://www.lullabot.com/audioca...
Great list of useful modules
- Peter Kelley
Amy just sold the volvo, no longer a bloody volvo driver!
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When they bought the same Volvo on Top Gear for 1 pound I knew it was over
- Peter Kelley
Main Page - The RM-ODP Wiki - http://www.rm-odp.net/
Reference Model for Open Distributed Processing
- Peter Kelley
Australian Health Information Technology: Health Ministers Agree to Proceed with National Health Identifiers. - http://aushealthit.blogspot.com/2009...
There is now a timetable for the introduction of national health identifiers for Australia. It remains to be seen what impact this will have on the programs underway in South Australia.
- Peter Kelley
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Board to Death TV - http://www.boardtodeath.tv/
Video boardgame reviews
- Peter Kelley
Whoever said that Glee is misogynistic hasn't been paying attention.
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WHO SAID THAT?
- Derrick
Someone on friendfeed. Can't remember who. They said it because they felt that all the female characters were bitchy or otherwise hella screwed up. I say they aren't paying attention.
- Alex Scoble
*snaps in z-formation* Who I gotta cut?
- Derrick
Not me, haven't seen past the pilot. Still digesting the CORN that flew from the TV and got stuck in my mouth
- Mo Kargas
Every major character on Glee has exhibited some unlikeable trait at some point or another. Some more than others. But I don't find it misogynistic and I pretty much have my feelers up on that issue.
- Spidra Webster
In Australia they just inserted episode 3 into the stream last night, apparently there was a delay in showing the ep in the US so they couldn't show the latest one here. It kinda sucks that channel 10 mjust does what they like and expects us to take it.
- Peter Kelley
Grails-Wave plugin 0.4 Release Notes - http://www.bitfusion.org/2009...
A Grails plugin for developing Google Wave robots
- Peter Kelley
RT @daily_finance E.U. requirements may force Oracle to drop Sun deal -- DailyFinance http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009... -- we want to see SUN live!
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Wow, I had adjusted to the idea of Sun/Oracle. What now?
- Peter Kelley
CDC Public Health Conceptual Data Model - http://www.cdc.gov/nedss...
Data model maintained by the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta
- Peter Kelley
Health misses key goals | Australian IT - http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story...
How will incentive payments for GPs lead to greater adoption if there is no-one to talk to in the first place?
- Peter Kelley
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Email Rules to Live By – Kid Edition « Grumplestiltskin - http://grumplestiltskin.com/index...
Having been around the internet block a few thousand times, we set up some conditions under which this account could exist. I think they are pretty good guidelines, so I’m sharing them here. Some are about safety online and some are just meant to keep a kid from being THAT KNUCKLEHEAD that you never want to obtain your email address for correspondence.
- Peter Kelley
UserFriendly Does Radiologist Jokes - http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoon...
LOL!
- Peter Kelley
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GPs miss out on discharge summaries - www.6minutes.com.au - http://www.6minutes.com.au/article...
"GPs need to receive discharge summaries from hospitals much more promptly because many patients are presenting to their family doctor within days of having hospital treatment, Australian research suggests."
- Peter Kelley
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Web 2.0 Summit video: GE shows off prototype medical tricorder - http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL...
Well actually it's a mini ultrasound device but the potential is there
- Peter Kelley
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If you are installing cygwin don't be running cntlm with an old version of cygwin1.dll or the post install will hang <sigh>. What a waste of time!
It seems the only way is to get cntlm to work with e current version of Cygwin is to compile and install it yourself. http://www.theeggeadventure.com/wikimed...
- Brian Egge
I have it running without doing that
- Peter Kelley
Are you running Cygwin 1.5.25-15?
- Brian Egge
That was 2 machines and 1 company ago :) My current machine doesn't have Cygwin on it yet.
- Peter Kelley
Shared parenting laws on way out | The Australian - http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...
Any law dealing with Families will have anecdotal failures but the current law seems to deliver some of the worst outcomes ever seen. Fathers with violent or worse backgrounds are getting access to kids who should be protected.
- Peter Kelley
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RT @NicoleJensen: Judges can allow Twitter in court after iiNet movie piracy coverage. Risky, but OK! http://www.news.com.au/technol...
Note that News Limited pulled the plug citing legal issues and editorial review. Sort of defeats the purpose
- Peter Kelley
@yellekau Yeah, Jasmine is great, but might be a bit too tight to wheel a pram into.. plus it's downstairs isn't it?
Yes, so no good. I'm going to have to learn all this stuff by next year when ours arrives
- Peter Kelley
On my whiteboard is "battlefronts." IE, who in the tech industry is taking over the castle. Who do you think is? Join me live:
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IE, Apple is taking over the castle from Nokia in the mobile phone space. Twitter is making a strong move on the social networking castle that Facebook owns.
- Robert Scoble
Ustream and Blip.tv are trying to get into YouTube's castle but keep getting shut out.
- Robert Scoble
Is Twitter storming Facebook's castle or is facebook storming Twitter's?
- Peter Kelley
Peter: I think Facebook is losing castle rooms to Twitter and it pisses Facebook off.
- Robert Scoble
Zoho and Google are trying to take ground away from Microsoft Office.
- Robert Scoble
Also is Mahalo building their own castle or storming someone elses?
- Peter Kelley
twitter are the horde slowly taking over the outlying areas of facebooks domain
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
So is SocialText and Atlassian and Jive and others.
- Robert Scoble
apple is going to be losing ground to both android and pre on different slices of turf IMO
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
FIOS is taking over cable and satellite. My iPhone is making my Windows desktop irrelevant.
- Brett Nordquist
Mindtouch is storming the sharepoint castle
- Christian Burns
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Gowalla is taking BrightKite's castle
- Peter Kelley
Anyway, the question is, where do you see entrenched "winners" under attack by new companies or ideas.
- Robert Scoble
Peter: FourSquare is doing a better job of doing that than Gowalla is.
- Robert Scoble
FIOS is a non-issue until they lose the "higher market" feel - i.e. it won't be in my working class neighborhood for another 2 years
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Wordpress is storming the Blogger castle.
- Brett Nordquist
But Gowalla is in the game.
- Robert Scoble
Louis Gray is taking over the Robert Scoble castle.
- Cristo
Anything related to keeping data tied to a physical location is dead. Freedom of mobility has stormed the castle and is now dancing in the courtyard as it burns down around it.
- Adrian Pike
Android from the iPhone, in the next 2 years
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
gowalla has just elbowed both twitter and foursquare out of the spot at the gate that is brightkyt
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Bing to Google
- Ankush Narula
from iPhone
Brett: Wordpress is almost an entrenched player now. Squarespace is the one trying to take away Wordpress share, isn't it?
- Robert Scoble
Christian: I agree.
- Robert Scoble
squarespace is showing wordpress how to be a better hosted service -- *with their own product!*
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ankush: I don't agree that Bing is really disrupting Google that much yet. It's a nice thought, though, and it is a fun fight to watch, so I agree there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I still see a lot of Blogger blogs, but you're right. SquareSpace is making a big move.
- Brett Nordquist
this is why i like friendfeed
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Rackspace is taking place of Amazon in hosting :)
- ashish
Spotify trying to sneak up on iTunes/Amazon/Pandora
- Ankush Narula
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In location services I see Yelp making big moves into a place that Google owns right now, at least in my mind.
- Robert Scoble
Ashish: shhhhh.
- Robert Scoble
We need something to take a bit away from WordPress - too much insecurity stuff in the press recently
- Jalada
Ankush: we think alike, I had that on my whiteboard already.
- Robert Scoble
rackspace still has a pricing misconception demon to shake loose
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Are Wordpress and Drupal different castles?
- Peter Kelley
I love the cool ads on free squarespace blogs. Makes me think of blogspot in 2002
- Christian Burns
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I wish Rackspace would give me a huge amount of storage to host my blog, pictures and music, but make it affordable and easy to access from any device with internet.
- Brett Nordquist
drupal is being stormed by mindtouch - now that is a sleeper-awakening fight
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Brett: how is http://rackspacecloud.com not doing just that?
- Robert Scoble
Google is moving against Twitter by adding contextual streams to web pages via Scoble's favorite tool: SideWiki
- Ankush Narula
from iPhone
Mike: that's an interesting one. I don't watch mindtouch that much, I should do an interview with them.
- Robert Scoble
@bear: On Intranets or more generally, there are a lot of Drupal sites out there
- Peter Kelley
Robert: Checking that out now. Did not know about it.
- Brett Nordquist
Ankush: I don't agree there, but that's one to put on the board as a potential disrupter.
- Robert Scoble
Windows Mobile 6.5 was found dead in the moat.
- Brett Nordquist
peter - on the intranets - but that means they will bust out when the open-source side catches up with what they have commercially developed
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
robert - mindtouch is moving in all the right places and in the proper direction ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: give it a year regarding Bing -MS know how to commoditized better than anyone (as u know!)
- Ankush Narula
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Got Brizzly on your whiteboard? I think they're up to something
- Jalada
First you have to define who's in the castle that is being taken over.
- Alex Scoble
yea, brizzly is looking at their feature set getting over shadowed by twitter doing a "me also" update
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jalada: I need a whole whiteboard on Twitter clients. Damn, did you see Tweetie 2.0 yet? You should, it's going to take over the iPhone app space for Twitter clients.
- Robert Scoble
Mike: it will be interesting to see what Seesmic does about Tweetie 2.0.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, Tumblr and Posterous are also disrupting Wordpress and Blogger.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Seen the coverage of it. Can't wait to get my hands on it. We're re-engineering our iPhone app at Twitterfall too, it's sure to give us some ideas ;-)
- Jalada
robert - :/ yea
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
VMWare/Spring Source are taking over the RedHat/JBoss castle
- Peter Kelley
For that matter what about threadsy? They are surely capable of disrupting the webmail market if marketed properly
- Ankush Narula
from iPhone
Posterous is fantastic and i'm using it to replace Flickr in some areas.
- Brett Nordquist
I predict tumblr and posterous merging by the end of the year - they are just too awesome to fight each other
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ankush: I heard threadsy had some performance issues, have they been ironed out?
- Jalada
Microsoft Office Web tries bringing in the battering rams, but isnt doing much right now against the heavily fortified walls of Google Docs
- Kevin Traver
Mike: I have some ideas, but they require you guys to become curation tool before Tweetie gets there.
- Robert Scoble
Last.FM is storming the Pandora castle.
- Brett Nordquist
glassfish+(scala,jpython,jruby) is owning the bare RoR scene
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Kevin, I see Google Docs as breaking over the castle wall into Microsoft territory right about now, actually. :-)
- Robert Scoble
robert - yes, we need to become the goto place for both current and historical data flow
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Cloud computing is like a fog that's obscuring the view between castles. When the fog lifts, no telling whose castle will be left standing and who will be crushed.
- Paul Blasman
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But Microsoft's castle is so big they still aren't worried. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Paul: Cloud Computing is just a tool to get over the wall. :-)
- Robert Scoble
bear - I think Groovy/Grails are doing a better job of storming the ROR castle and many other web framework castles besides
- Peter Kelley
cloudcomputing allows you to take the battle off the ground and just go *around* the others
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: It's a magical tool that everyone says is great, but then find it's too small to get over big walls.
- Jalada
peter - hmm, then i'm not watching enough Groovy/Grails shops to get wind of that - i'll have to adjust
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
is Netflix on your whiteboard?
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: no, but it is now.
- Robert Scoble
rssCloud/Hubbub? Not companies though...
- Jalada
Jalada: that's like Cloud Computing: a tool to help you get over the wall.
- Robert Scoble
jalada - IMO that's a minor battle between what type of pipe to use - only internet plumbers are worried about that
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: Redbox is pretty cool too. Used it before?
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: No, and I haven't used Roxio yet either.
- Robert Scoble
Google Analytics is taking over Omniture (maybe already taken over going by Omniture's Q1 earnings)
- MadhuIyer
One night DVD rentals for a buck. Red Box always seems busy no matter where I see them.
- Brett Nordquist
Redbox is for those that don't know what's good for them
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Oh and Fake Carol Bartz taking over Fake Steve Jobs
- MadhuIyer
Madhulyer: oh, I SO agree with that!
- Robert Scoble
verizon realizing before at&t that limits on the data flow just hampers profit increases
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Although @shitmydadsays is kicking both of their asses.
- Robert Scoble
according to my kids, the iPod Touch is replacing the Nintendo DS
- Brett Nordquist
I'm liking where Boxee is going with webtv. could be what appletv had hoped to be.
- michael sean wright
Boxee taking over tivo?
- ashish
Brett: I agree with them, it's certainly a threat Nintendo/Sony need to tackle
- Jalada
Yeah, Boxee and Bittorrent are definitely changing TV for a new generation.
- Robert Scoble
Renting physical media is not going to put a crack in anyone' wall.
- Paul Blasman
from iPhone
Jalada: This year we'll spend more in App Store games from Apple than games from Nintendo.
- Brett Nordquist
Hulu is taking over paid cable
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Google's archers try to fend off some incoming twitter boats
- Kevin Traver
but this proves to be difficult because the water in the moat is very unstable due to Google Waves
- Kevin Traver
Brett: us too. And Xbox.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: Google Wave is super slow for me today. And totally unusable. I don't know about people who like it. I think they are all nerds. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Google Wave is to far out on the horizon - it still has a chance to sink itself or run up on the reef of complicated-UI
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
This Friendfeed thread is taking over my social life!
- Brett Nordquist
I think they're handing out a new Wave (aha..) of invites today, slowly.
- Jalada
FriendFeed will take over something I hope
- Jay
Robert - yep, wave is for early adopter nerds
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jay: Can it still do that now it belongs in Facebook's castle?
- Jalada
Google Wave is just taking over people's ability of effectiveness...
- MadhuIyer
Jalada: How about..? FriendFeed should take over everyone's homepage.
- Jay
FriendFeed is a realm that joined the Facebook Castle so they could get some troops garrisoned inside their operation
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
This castle analogy is brilliant
- Jalada
Mike: gearing up for pushing Twitter back over the wall. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Some of Google's guards cautiously watch Wolfram|Alpha in the distant horizon.
- Kevin Traver
Robert - yea, they saw the oncoming battle and decided to join forces
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
/me wonders if Robert has enough new ideas for interviews and articles yet
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Yeah, I was just checking to see if there was some wall breach happening that I wasn't familiar with.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin - and laugh
- Peter Kelley
some of these battles are good ol' "dig under the walls and let it slowly collapse" fights, while others are storm-the-gates assaults
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: At WordCamp Seattle two weeks ago, I was surprised to hear how many people were still on blogging platforms other than Wordpress. Assumed everyone was on WP already.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: Yeah, that's wacky. What were the most popular non-Wordpress ones? Any idea why they are still on those?
- Robert Scoble
Brett - at PodCamp Philly last weekend almost everyone was asking how to use WordPress and if they should move from Blogger to WP (amongst the new blogger scene)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Adobe Flash coming under attack from HTML/5 if the major players will stop their HTML/5 codec bickering. For example a Safari plugin to switch YouTube Video from Flash to Apple H.264 http://bit.ly/JlWVO
- Ed Millard
Robert: almost all I spoke with were on Blogger. A few on Typepad and many had created websites that were out-of-date.
- Brett Nordquist
Mike: I'm not surprised. Maybe still too difficult to roll your own WP install?
- Brett Nordquist
Ed - good one - yea, if the HTML/5 scene doesn't stop fighting they are going to cede all that work to Flash
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Brett - some of that plus also the latest security issues were a big concern
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Mike: Good point about security. Lots of talk about that as well. Still too many hurdles for the less technical.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett - agreed - I was pointing everyone to hosted solutions by asking them the question: Do you *really* want to become a SysAdmin as well as a blogger?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Scobleizer's SUL taking over Twitter's SUL
- MadhuIyer
here's a challenge - let's talk about who's taking over what castle and *not* mention Twitter
- Dave Hodson
Madhulyer - and also true celeb's twitter lists taking over both of those SUL's
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Dave, wasn't Twitter mentioned in the first comment?
- Cristo
@Cristo - yup. I have Twitter fatigue; there must be other castles to storm out there
- Dave Hodson
Dave, I think I have castle storming fatigue.
- Cristo
I'm going to need some buffs if there's more castles to storm today.
- Brett Nordquist
/me puts down a fish feast and calls out for a table
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I think the Twitter fatigue is due to the fact that people constantly reference it. Sure it is growing, super cool, the-best-thing-eva, but what *else* is out there? How about the impact that a service like Aardvark is having/not having on Yelp for example?
- Dave Hodson
Dave: fair enough but let's see your ideas for castles being stormed that don't include the T-word anywhere? :-)
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble - as I said, Aardvark and Yelp. I've been using Aardvark for a while now and I think they might be on to something.
- Dave Hodson
Dave: that's actually why I started this post, to see if there's any other battlefronts out there. Turns out there are. As to Yelp: I don't see @vark as a @yelp killer. I'm not even sure they are battling for the same thing. Most of the questions on @vark that I get have nothing to do with restaurants or places or businesses.
- Robert Scoble
I think @vark could disrupt Yahoo or Google search, though, and take away some revenue.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble - questions really depend on what you sign up for - I asked a question the other day about a good/quick place to eat near the Fillmore in SF and got several good replies right away. Yelp wouldn't really have helped me there. Plus the new iPhone app is pretty good. And not to be a total fanboy, but I really like the IM integration.
- Dave Hodson
Yeah, good point. I do love @vark, don't get me wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Surprised nobody mentioned the Kindle
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: good point!
- Robert Scoble
that atari thing my neighbours have is taking over my lightbrite.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Brett - or the new tablets coming out (and not the apple one either!)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Mike, who is making the new tablets? I've not heard much then.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: there are a couple already out in EU by Archos. Gateway's tablet PC was leaked and there is the hopefully coming Crunchpad. Those are just off the top of my head
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Chrome is taking over someones castle. im not sure if its ie or Firefox
- Anthony Feint
How about on the SSD front, OCZ Vertex line vs Intel X25's
- Joe Hanink
Skype, cell and Google Voice are taking over traditional telco phone landline castle
- Susan Beebe
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Thanks for all the MindTouch mentions folks. Scoble, happy to talk again. It's been quite a while. Ping me and let's set something up. Happy to meet up when I'm in your neighborhood again.
- Roebot
Scoble, more on MindTouch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch... and also watch some of the demos to the right of the page here: http://www.mindtouch.com/Solutio...
- Roebot
Meanwhile, MySpace is M.I.A. and no one gives a shizzle!
- Danny Minick
mollusc-driven architecture: Mussels + RFID tags = oil leak detection - http://blog.elementallinks.net/2009...
"Concerned with the environmental and revenue impacts of leaks during oil drilling, StatOil sought an innovative and automated way to detect leaks. They wanted to replace a manual process that included deep sea drivers. StatOil’s innovation, they attached RFID tags to the shells of blue mussels. When the blue mussels sense an oil leak, they close which prompts the RFID tags to emit closure events. In response to the events, the drilling line is automatically stopped."
- Peter Kelley
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via @dansdata: PhotoshopDisasters: Ralph Lauren: We Are Determined To Outdo The Gap - http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009...
Why diet when you can photoshop
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