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How to set up a GoogleVoice account outside the US. - http://www.gadgetell.com/tech...
Shiva, denise, Antoine Bertier and 15 other people liked this
Yes, apparently this is possible. Also, for iPhone Users outside the US, I notice that only one Google Voice app is available, as of, today in the App Store (this refers to the Ireland store but I presumes applies elsewhere in the EU and perhaps further afield too): VoiceCentral. Because none of the other (Google Voice) apps are available in the App Store I have a faint suspicion that VoiceCentral might just have been placed in a non US app store by mistake. So if you're non resident in the US, feel like using a proxy to set up your GV account, are an iPhone user and don't mind a couple of Euro punt on this app then, if I were you, I'd pile into the AppStore and get me a copy of VoiceCentral before its pulled by Apple. Enjoy and remember, if it doesn't work, don't blame me. For the record I've downloaded myself a copy but haven't yet attempted to try to set up a GoogleVoice account, I haven't even got an invite yet (There's a hint in there: if anyone can advise me, or help, on how to get a GV invitation I'd be very thankful for your help)
- JSLeFanu
from Bookmarklet
I set up a Google Voice account from Germany this weekend. I had to screen-share with a US colleague to get the initial registration done, afterward I used localphone.com to redirect calls. Voice Central works flawlessly.
- Lars Trieloff
Lars, thanks a million for the heads up on that. At least now I know another part of the picture for getting this done. I'm pretty jazzed at the thought of getting this set up. I'll report back on how I get on. Now to get one of those invites.
- JSLeFanu
How can Robert Nelson's public-knowledge reminder to rely on unnamed US-proxies to set it up, along with his fine print[*], be considered anywhere near useful? Lars Trieloff sez that "Voice Central works flawlessly," but what's the value of potentially-critical service which one can never know how long it may last? [^*] "fine print: if you choose to go this route only to have Google...
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- ianf ⌘
I did setup my Google Voice account using Hotspot Shield and forward all call to my sipgate.com number and I have a truphone.com US number that I linked. and I use my BlackBerry to control Google Voice and send/receive SMS
- zsafwan
This is purely academic enquiry in my part, but how many discrete steps were required (each moment of entering a site, navigating to a specific page, filling/ entering username/ password in a form, submitting/ registering, etc, counts as one step) for you to complete the GV registration, including any previous regs you now merely invoked in order to set it up? 100? 200 discrete steps? I wonder…
- ianf ⌘
ianf, I'm not very far down the road with this so I can't offer any real response to the issues you raise. I made the original post because I happened upon this article the same morning I spotted this GoogleVoice app in the Ireland App Store. Normally Apple don't stock apps for services not supported in the market of any given app store. SO for those of a "hacky" mindset I thought I'd just put the word out and attach the necessary caveats. I'm as interested as you are in the responses to your post.
- JSLeFanu
David, I'm not questioning any decisions any of you above may have made, I am merely trying to clarify certain usually-unmentioned things as much for others' sake, as for my own. I have not attempted this unofficial GV setup, and probably won't, because I have other, analogous experiences of past "bypass-ordinary-channel" services similar to that which seldom worked in the long run....
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- ianf ⌘
Well I hope everyone jumped on those GoogleVoice app while the going was good: http://www.macnn.com/article...
- JSLeFanu
you can get a free SIP phone number from here sipgate.com
- zsafwan
Well I got my GoogleVoice invite today. Hooray! Hooray again that I grabbed that VoiceCentral app before it was pulled. Boo, I'm still not sure if I can get this to work in a practical way. I'm with a VOIP provider in Ireland and my package includes limitless free to the states, among numerous other places, but I haven't yet worked out the way, if any, I can get to use the GoogleVoice...
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- JSLeFanu
Ok, I give in. I'm now with ianf ⌘ on this whole gig. I can't tell anyone if GoogleVoice hacking is worth the trouble or not because I've got nowhere near getting registered. I tried the SipGate route. I made several attempts to fill out their online form but at the bottom of the page the CAPTCHA text wouldn't render. Of course I was using a Proxy, several different ones to register so...
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- JSLeFanu
But an invite is required... so...? Proxy is easy, just ssh into your US webhost.
- Paul Grav
Paul, thanks, I have the invite already and I got it using a proxy, that bit was easy. I only have the haziest notion of what ssh means so I'll postpone attempting that until my understanding catches up a bit. I suppose its possible that in practice the process "can" be as easy as Gadgetell portray, its just that in my experience it isn't. Maybe it would be a breeze if I knew more about this "ssh-ing" but I don't and Gadgetell didn't suggest any competence in ssh-ing" was needed.
- JSLeFanu
Well, if you have a webhost in the US, just open a terminal and type: ssh -D 1080 mywebhost.com Then fire up Firefox and change the socks host to 127.0.0.1 and 1080 for the port. Lifehacker has a more complete guide: http://lifehacker.com/237227...
- Paul Grav
from IM
What about the fact that international numbers are not accepted? I'm in Canada, and yeah, I had no problem signing up, proxy-style. However, it won't allow me to route my calls to my area code. I foolishly accepted a number in an outside area code (American) close to my locale, and now I'm stuck giving it a routing number that it won't accept. I think I should have waited and done it...
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- timedalkat
Paul, thanks for the tip, I really appreciate the info. I actually don't, yet, know how to do any of that. I'm posting from the phone at the moment but I'll be sure to check out the lifehacker link you provided when I'm back at the Mac. I might leave it a day or two to give myself a break because I got a bit pissed off with the whole process today and perhaps need a bit of a breather....
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- JSLeFanu
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timedalcat, you raise a good point and one that's already crossed my mind. Sorry to say I can't, yet, help you on this one. I'm not even close to being that far through the process yet myself and consider such concerns an extravagant luxury at this stage . My own local Irish number is with an Irish Sip service but I haven't even worked out how to configure GV (assuming I even make it...
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- JSLeFanu
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The article is crap, it basically tells you to setup a proxy but that alone isn't sufficient to setup a Google Voice account. During the setup you select a Google Voice number but you need to forward calls to your own phone, which will inevitably have an international number and only US numbers are supported.
- Paul Grav
I would think the simple way to get around any US IP address requirements would be to have someone in the US setup a TOR hidden service that points to the GV registration. It wouldn't have the same kinds of limitations as typical proxies. (I'm not the Robert Nelson of the article btw)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'd be interested to know whether anyone has tried this particular method. I'm poised to give it a go, the main thing holding me back is that I haven't got my head around the possible routing costs. I know I need a US number, I suppose I could link one to my Skype account. That cost is easy to calculate. I also have an Irish geographical VOIP SIP number already and one Mobile (or cell)...
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- JSLeFanu
BTW, for anyone interested I eventually managed to set this up. Whether it's worth it or not is a different matter entirely.
- JSLeFanu
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PadCam concept +[update] Confirmed: iPhone OS 3.2 has support for video calling, file downloads, and SMS: - http://conferenza-info.com/2010...
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would you buy one for 25$?
- FullSite
from Bookmarklet
interesting
- sertaç aydoğdu
iPhone SDK allow hardware access to the dock connector so this cant be so difficult, right?
- FullSite
yeah, why not.
- Roberto Bonini
i was wondering if the eye-fi wifi sd card will work with the iPad...
- FullSite
update some one did a nice job hacking the eye-fi: http://biobug.org/index...
- FullSite
Confirmed: iPhone OS 3.2 has support for video calling, file downloads, and SMS: http://www.engadget.com/2010...
- FullSite
cool liked it
- nia7242001
another prediction (easy) nailed for me :-p http://www.engadget.com/2010...
- FullSite
What's your Google Wave account? Mine is kolint [at] googlewave [dot] com. Feel free to add me.
yakoo, Sean Rasmussen, Jeff Kawa and 105 other people liked this
If you want an invite or have invites to give away check the 'Great Google Wave Invite' thread here: http://ff.im/91M9R EDIT: Or try this for invites: http://googlewaveinvites.com/
- Kol Tregaskes
mmastrac
- Matt M (inactive)
127ajr I wish we didn't have to keep our gmail names.
- Californian
roshan.ramachandran
- Roshan Ramachandran
Added you all. Taylan, well you have at least one now. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Wait, Google Wave gives you an email address? Super awesome!
- Nick Humphries
Nick, well it's your Gmail address but with @googlewave.com instead of @gmail.com (or @googlemail.com)
- Kol Tregaskes
HN, post here instead: http://ff.im/91M9R
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: That's pretty neat. Wish it was shorter like wave.com or gwave.com (Google owns gwave.com anyway) or something.
- Nick Humphries
@gwave.com doesn't seem to work.
- Kol Tregaskes
any you give me an invite?
- Bannka
Goofy2, post here: http://ff.im/91M9R
- Kol Tregaskes
andrewterry2.0@googlewave.com
- Andrew Terry
please an invite =/ m.furkantunali [\at/] gmail.com
- Furkan Tunalı
Furkan, post here instead: http://ff.im/91M9R
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks, sorry.
- Furkan Tunalı
if only you could bold an announcement in FF like you can in Wave :D [oh, and my username on Wave is the splendiforously original "adamlasnik"]
- Adam Lasnik
selcuke@gmail.com .thx
- Selcuk Ergin
bkoknar@gmail.com davetiye lütfen
- obsesif kompulsif
Guys, please read the title and the first comment. This is not a request for invites. This is for users who already have an account and want to share their account name. For invites see this thread: http://ff.im/91M9R
- Kol Tregaskes
My Wave ID is erier2003@googlewave.com. Feel free to add me and we can Wave!
- Eric Geller
skitcherboy@googlewave.com
- Ahmed
don.bonaddio@googlewave.com
- Don Bonaddio
ismaileski@gmail.com
- ieski
none of my 6 invitees received it .... 8 hrs & counting. Wats the avg time invites take to come thru..?
- Roshan Ramachandran
Roshan, it seems completely random.
- Kol Tregaskes
terry.donaghe
- iTad
sscott@googlewave.com
- Spencer
damondnollan@googlewave.com
- Damond Nollan
farzaam.net@gmail.com
- farzaam
Still don't really know what this is (Or Google Voice for that matter). This is like high school all over again. The cool kids are ignoring me!
- James Ferguson
myturkey@gmail.com
- Varol AKSOY
bjtitus@googlewave.com
- Brandon Titus
i have no juice...consultfab@gmail.com
- Bryan R. Adams
i'm with the google wave woudl be really cool, if i had people to wave at crowd. jviddy@googlewave.com
- Jamie Vidamour
Everyone, read the title and first comment. This is NOT an invite thread!
- Kol Tregaskes
my plan didn't work. still trolling for an invite at dzinrgeek@gmail.com
- amarquart
Blimey. I must be going mad, is it not clear that this is NOT an invite thread. For invites see here: http://ff.im/91M9R
- Kol Tregaskes
Not sure if anyone else woudl find it useful, i'm going to add a load of you as friends and create a wave just to try stuff out in. Feel free to remove yourself from the wave or use it as you feel. Also feel free to add anyone else you think might want to be in on it
- Jamie Vidamour
Shockingly, I am robdiana@googlewave.com
- Rob Diana
Gasp! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm pavels.romanovskis@gmail or maybe pavels@googlewave.com please see which one works
- солнышок
ajbatac@googlewave.com ;)
- AJ Batac :)
dahiicocuk@gmail.com thanks:)
- fatih.
bcl.lee@googlewave.com
- BRҰANSAҰS
jtyost2@googlewave.com
- Justin Yost
thehenrydandrea@googlewave.com
- TheHenry
joshbegin
- Josh Begin
bluecockatoo@googlewave.com
- Lindsay
keith.kleverideas for me.
- Keith Bennett
abrudtkuhl@googlewave.com
- andy brudtkuhl
I don't have one.
- Chris Charabaruk
yipwang@gmail.com if anybody wants to add me, perhaps someone can 'wave' me into a circle on wave? :P
- Wang Yip
i'm: shaynorulz@gmail.com - the Kol rocks!
- shayne catrett
Thanks everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
destek [at] afyonblog [dot] com
- mustafa03
chrisofspades at googlewave.com
- chrisofspades
I guess I'm kamilah.gill or kamilahgill. Where do I see it?
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Add me to your google wave contacts and send me a wave hello jmnewhart@googlewave.com
- Jesse Newhart
Woo hoo!
- Tony C (Unrated)
from fftogo
Congratulations, Kol! :) If you come across anyone else with extra invites, let me know! :) jason (dot) a (dot) castillo at the gmail
- JA Castillo
scobleizer@googlewave.com
- Robert Scoble
monamail@googlewave.com :)
- Mona Nomura
alexishope@googlewave.com
- Alexis Hope
galtenbergs at same
- Christopher Galtenberg
ksheppardson
- Ken Sheppardson
faithx5@googlewave.com is me. :)
- Jandy
zholmquist@googlewave.com
- Zach Holmquist
Added, thanks. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Kamilah, you are kamilah.gill. You can find this if you click on yourself in the Contacts sidebar. You address (like everyone) is shown there.
- Kol Tregaskes
emirhanizmir at gmail dot com thank you :)
- Nutella Ferrero (emirhan)
rmorrill@googlewave.com
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
The invite thread is here: http://ff.im/91M9R.
- Kol Tregaskes
vezquex@googlewave.com
- Vezquex
Ok got you all loaded in to google wave - nice list thanks Kol! r/d
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
No worries. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
gdearing@googlewave.com
- George Dearing
I'd like to be invited : natoorenet@gmail.com
- MeŤi
Meti: http://ff.im/91M9R .. invites are not in this thread
- Wang Yip
libyano@gmail.com plz
- Saeed Ashour
Afcontact@gmail.com with my eternal recognition!
- Arnaud Fischer
from iPhone
lardissone@googlewave.com
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
mikefruchter@googlewave.com
- Mike Fruchter
trappermark@googlewave.com
- Mark Traphagen
jeffisageek@googlewave.com
- (jeff)isageek
donothaveanaccount@googlewave.com :(
- Mo Kargas
This thread is now live in an embedbed public wave in Google Wave.
- Kol Tregaskes
Patrick@googlewave.com
- Patrick
fatihkurtoglu@gmail.com
- mfatih
aksenova.katerina@gmail.com
- Prometa
Have someone placed invites in places like inviteshare.com?
- TrafficBug
impressive. :)
- Miguel Wickert- Pineiro
chicagorachelbaker@googlewave.com
- Rachel Baker
Thanks everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
lukather77@googlewave.com
- Lorenzo Strambi
flexdaddy[at]googlewave.com
- Eric Price
google wave invitation zihnibabuz@gmail.com
- Zihni Babuz
I am at empoprises at googlewave dot com. And no, I do not have any invites.
- John E. Bredehoft
John, added you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
krynsky...on there.
- Mark Krynsky
johnacraft.com@googlewave.com
- John Craft
empty1
- Matt Thompson
ninthart at googlewave dot com
- Brad Brooks
Great!! Add me as well....haroldcabezas@googlewave.com Look forward to connecting there, I think Google Wave is great.
- Harold Cabezas
guilhermegom@googlewave.com
- guilherme
mine is here: http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/d...
- onur özen
Thank you all.
- Kol Tregaskes
I need Wave invite :)
- Naceron
doubleletter@googlewave.com
- Ahsan Ali
zoolcar9@googlewave.com
- LouCypher
canuckmackem@googlewave.com
- Simon Tracey
kevin.j.gamble@googlewave.com
- Kevin Gamble
commenting from the embedded thread
- Mr. Gunn
fuk and i am still @gmail.com !!!!
- viki saigal
sniffle
- Karoli
Karoli: is that your google wave nick or are you sniffling? :)
- Ahsan Ali
I'm sniffling because I don't have a google wave nick. Despite two invites, there is still nothing in my inbox. I am not in with the in crowd. :(
- Karoli
thanks, I will!
- Karoli
hanten@googlewave.com
- Ben Hanten
john.worthington.aac@googlewave.com
- Johnny
I still don't have an invite :/ mattb4rd@gmail.com
- Mattb4rd
finally got my wave! :-) qtbrowneyes☺googlewave
- browneyes
YAY!!!! I'm wavin' at you! karoli.kuns@googlewave.com
- Karoli
I am vimoh.writer
- vimoh
<- Waves hello! :) I'm at holger.eilhard@googlewave.com
- Holger Eilhard
hello holger, can you pls send me invite? fatihkurtoglu@gmail.com
- mfatih
Invite came today! I'm jalada@googlewave.com. As part of the second/third 'Wave' of people getting invites looks like I don't get any to share out.
- Jalada
M Fatih Kurtoglu: Sorry, I don't yet have any nominations to give out...
- Holger Eilhard
I'm brominet at google, dot com.
- Brome
jvjannotti@googlewave.com
- Vicarbott
Hey, I'm in too ! :)) tagyboy@googlewave.com
- fwed
Just got my invite this morning as well. FF embed seems to be working fine. I've tried the Wolfram Alpha robot but didn't get it to work yet.
- François Dongier
Thanks, Kol. Nice list.
- Wins Fern
librarysupporter@googlewave.com in my wave. :)
- MLx
Glad to see more and more people getting in. What we're waiting for is proper group support (a few weeks hopefully) then let the games begin! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Anyone have a spare google wave invite to send to me? email me at zaldor at gmail ! TY!
- Les Zaldor
that is a test from the wave that has this thread embedded.
- Nathalie
Hey cool, Nathalie. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
how does one find that thread within wave?
- Vicarbott
Search for the term "friendfeed", you might have to put "with:public friendfeed"
- Kol Tregaskes
please send one! + strefrextor %& gmail /( com =?
- Musa Avcı
If I had wave I would add you, but seeing as I don't, I won't :(
- Simon Doyle
from Nambu
woland783
- Alessandro
i'm francois.dongier in googlewave as in gmail
- François Dongier
amyb1961@ - oh wait, that's right, I don't HAVE it yet!
- Amy℠
avandos08@googlewave.com
- Harold
jasonw22@googlewave.com
- Jason Wehmhoener
tlhote@googlewave.com
- Thierry Lhôte
jmortonscott
- Jason
this is great!
- Kenyth
rowlikeagirl{at}googlewave. com. Whew, I just added all the contacts here. That wasn't too tedious!
- rowlikeagirl
ronin.ben@googlewave.com
- ronin
susan.beebe@googlewave.com :)
- Susan Beebe
svartling@googlewave.com Please add me? :)
- Svartling
I'll have some juice as well yannrs@googlewave.com
- Yann Ropars
I see there are lots or new people on Wave. Keep em coming. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
orchid8@googlewave.com
- Que Sarah Sarah
jimminyfuller@googlewave.com
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
sedairenguozmen@googlewave.com
- seda irengü özmen
adrianculici@googlewave.com
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
quackofdawn@googlewave.com
- noname
Waving from GWave.
- Wins Fern
brodiebeta@googlewave.com =)
- Brodie Beta
pascal.sijen@googlewave.com
- Pascal Sijen
ancyru8 [at] googlewave.com Finally got myself an account!
- Andrew Trinh
krz9000 [@] googlewave.com
- Chris Hofmann
Mine is mrfabbri@googlewave.com
- Marco Fabbri
laura.botts [at] googlewave.com
- LB shining
sarper [at] googlewave.com
- Sarper Sılaoğlu
al86shaw [at] googlewave.com
- Alan (Giraffes)
ryan.hirsch [at] googlewave.com
- Ryan
tosh54 [at] googlewave.com
- Peter Hoffmann
laura.norvig@googlewave.com
- Laura Norvig
I will as soon as I get one WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
- Martha
banane@googlewave.com <-- writing this from wave. neat!
- anna sauce
marco.nunez@googlewave - FINALLY! like i said on twitter - i feel like the kid who got a nintendo 1 christmas too late when everyone had already beaten super mario bros!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
denise.straessler@googlewave - stupid me had no idea i wouldn't be able to select a different name .....
- denise
Thanks everyone! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
kendrak@googlewave.com
- Georgie Bestie
rjccviii -at- gmail dawt com
- Richard Lawler
mdfidler [at] googlewave [dot] com
- Michael Fidler
Arnaud dot Fischer at gmail dot com if anybody is happy to share an invite with me... Thanks so much!
- Arnaud Fischer
from iPhone
mine is bansode@googlewave.com
- Gaurav Bansode
I'm allanpartridge@googlewave.com ... feel free to add me too (boring talking to self)
- Brandon
diegomorelli76@googlewave.com
- diego morelli
m.furkantunali@googlewave.com
- Furkan Tunalı
churchsg
- Sally Church
subject.zero@googlewave.com
- Danny F Santos
fredcy@googlewave.com
- Fred Yankowski
Lots more, cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
tapiokulmala@googlewave.com
- Tapio Kulmala
george.moga@googlewave.com
- George Moga
activescott@googlewave.com
- scott willeke
glemak (at) etc...
- mike "glemak" dunn
bjmccormick [at] googlewave [dot] com
- rotarychainsaw
quantum.yorkie@googlewave.com
- Tony C (Unrated)
chacha102@googlewave.com
- Tyler (Chacha)
I really don't feel like adding 200 people my my contacts...
- Tyler (Chacha)
I only have three contacts so far, feel free to add me so I'm not so lonely =) jon.with.no.h.leibowitz
- Jon
dzinrgeek@googlewave.com
- amarquart
Well, there are quite a few people already! Mine is catalani.ryan [at googlewave dot com].
- Ryan - @magicofpi
s.velcam02@googlewave.com ;)
- Sergio Vela Camacho
nothing@googlewave.com. To everybody: Can some one offer me Wave?
- ThinkEzy
I want it too omikheev@gmail.com
- Kaspar Minosiants
i am eugenemah@googlewave.com
- Imabug
startoestudio@googlewave.com
- Martha
omgplzstfukthx@googlewave.com :-D
- April
richij@googlewave.com
- Richi Jennings
niguel.valley@googlewave.com
- Valley
Is there a compiled list of search strings for GoogleWave? It will be very helpful as the number of waves increase in inbox
- Wins Fern
gladstone@googlewave.com
- Gladstone
@Wins Fern: some of them are presented here: http://smarterware.org/3729...
- George Moga
solymos.gellert@googlewave.com bernadett.csajbi@googlewave.com
- SoGo
Well, I finally got to surf the Wave experience. Currently drowning. bubbleofneon@googlewave.com
- Mark H
Cool, Mark! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
ciropellegrino at gmail.com :)
- Ciro Pellegrino
Yes, kevendones@googlewave.com :)
- Keven
i'm suezanne at googlewave.com
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
logicalextremes@googlewave.com
- Tinfoil 2.0
soner.gonul@googlewave.com
- ★ Soner Gönül
minmax2k [at] googlewave [dot] com
- Mark J
In case there is still someone with spare invitations: piotr.byzia at gmail.com
- Piotr Byzia
walt i tried to add you but it says your address is invalid :(
- mike "glemak" dunn
Finally made it on to Wave, add me and say hello - azs.gmu@googlewave.com
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
ivanfilios@googlewave.com
- Iván Abrego
Wow. Thanks Kol!!! Here's mine for all ya'll to add - walt.ruppar@googlewave.com - although I just added like 150 of the above. While also deleting my pity pleads for an invite... ;-)
- JR
Terror@googlewave.com Add me!
- Yiğit
andyzweb@googlewave.com
- Andrew Euell
emrephalanx@googlewave.com
- Emre BAHADIR
gardnerscot@googlewave.com - Scot Gardner
- Scot Gardner
micahbear78@googlewave.com
- MicahBear78
aleahey@gwave.com
- Andrew Leahey
rss.ems@googlewave.com
- Rıza Selçuk Saydam (RSS)
robertfreeze@googlewave.com
- Robert Freeze
fatihkurtoglu@googlewave.com
- mfatih
marybaumcreative@googlewave.com -- Thanks, Trish!
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
nzbuu1 [at] googlewave [dot] com
- James Myatt
I'm mightyfib(at)googlewave(dot)com Please feel free to add me.. :o)
- Jeannette Høvring
Thanks, George. The list is getting longer. Wow.
- Wins Fern
dannyrowley@googlewave.com
- Daniel Rowley
ajkohn2006@googlewave.com
- AJ Kohn
voxefx@googlewave.com
- Vox
pengwen.not.penguin@googlewave.com
- Parvez Halim
bansode AT googlewave DOT com
- Gaurav Bansode
Might be worth bumping this post as it's now open to all.
- Kol Tregaskes
michaelbernstein.com@googlewave.com
- Michael R. Bernstein
Paragon Backup & Recovery Free Edition - Free Download - http://www.paragon-software.com/home...
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I've been using Evernote since it came out (and I still miss the ticker-tape style of the old Evernote). Over the years, my notebooks have become a ridiculous, unwieldy mess. The only way I can get anything out of them is by searching which sometimes makes me think that I should just dump everything into one notebook and call it a day...
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But I don't want to do that. I'm digging around the web looking for some ideas and I can find tons of posts on how people are USING Evernote but not many on how they're ORGANIZING it. How are you guys doing it?
- Akiva
There are also some things I wished that Evernote allowed: archiving and hiding of notebooks that I no longer need and notebook-specific tags come to mind immediately.
- Akiva
I've tried putting together a naming and tagging convention for new notes, but the problem is that my typical Evernote workflow is to quickly paste (or email) something into the app and do the organizing later. Now, I've got 2300+ notes and the idea of going through and organizing all of them kinda makes my back hurt.
- Brett Kelly
I honestly haven't been using Evernote very much simply because I have no workflow for it. I have a triage folder but no real idea of how to triage what's in there. When do I use tags as opposed to notebooks, for example. At this point, I'm thinking about making folders incredibly generic: Web Sites, Gaming, etc. And then dumping notes in there and 'organizing' them with tags. So, I'd...
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- Akiva
I only use notebooks if there's a really good reason to like 1) a very large number of notes related to the same topic that would be easier to search if they were all in the same notebook or 2) a subset of notes that I want to share publicly. In general I use tags for everything and then use Saved Searches to pull together batches of notes based on tags. Here's an overview of how I do...
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- Lindsay
Thanks, Lindsay. That definitely gives me some good ideas. Why do you go with a minimal number of notebooks?
- Akiva
Because they seem kind of arbitrary and redundant with tags, and they limit me because I can only put a note in one notebook but can put any number of tags on it. I can make saved searches like dynamic notebooks and have notes shared in them depending on the tags. So my reason 1 above I could really do without... reason 2 is the only good reason for using notebooks at all IMO.
- Lindsay
I started creating separate notebooks by topic in an effort to improve the speed of search and retrieval on the iPhone (which used to *suck*), but that's gotten much better. If Evernote gave me the ability to tag things that I email to it somewhere in the subject or message body, it'd be 200% more useful to me (and it's already extremely useful). I've never been able to fully understand why nested tags are useful, though.
- Brett Kelly
Totally agree with you there, Brett... really wish they'd let you put tags in the emails. It would make it so much easier to import/forward stuff.
- Lindsay
Brett, hah, I was just about to ask about nested tags. I like them because they add organization to the tags but I'd like to be able to do a search on a tag and have it automatically include all of its child tags.
- Akiva
I actually wrote up the tag-within-email thing as part of my list of things that Evernote needs to fix/improve: http://journal.brettkelly.org/things-... - any of that resonate with you folks?
- Brett Kelly
The nested tags don't let you pull all the child notes, it's mainly just so you can visually organize the tags themselves. I basically use it so my tag list isn't about 3 screens scrolling tall. It just helps me to hunt down the tag I'm looking for faster.
- Lindsay
Lindsay, would you be comfortable showing a screenshot of your tag hierarchy? I'd love a pro example of how that's put together
- Brett Kelly
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Here are some from my personal account (I have a separate work account). I didn't expand everything, but expanded some of the more "bulky" or abstract hierarchies: http://www.evernote.com/pub... BTW, your suggestion of the "smart notebooks" is basically how I use saved searches. It...
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- Lindsay
Man, that's great - your setup really embodies the kind of flexibility I've been trying to formulate in my head for the last couple of months. Another question, Lindsay, do you have a ton of saved searches? How are those organized?
- Brett Kelly
This has been very helpful. I went from having a bunch of notebooks with only one or two notes in them and a bunch of tags that were linked only to one or two notes to something much more manageable.
- Akiva
how many notes do you guys have altogether?
- Brett Kelly
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Between work and personal ~5500 at this point.
- Lindsay
I think I'd be much more inclined to use Evernote for GTD if there weren't so much friction with editing notes on the iPhone (where I do most of my capture). Also, the inability to add checkboxes kinda hampers the experience as well.
- Brett Kelly
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I have also "cheated" and written me some status and project planning reporting web apps against Evernote's API. It makes my work project GTD stuff even that much more useful to me. One day I want to write more stuff to slice and dice Evernote data into different formats that will be useful to other people. It's basically just a big non-relational database. I want to use it as a data store and have different front ends for it... Then all my stuff will be in one place.
- Lindsay
One thing that I love the most is being able to use it to store and organize all the fonts I collect. It is SO NICE to browse them (screen shots) and have all the files and licenses in one place.
- Lindsay
I actually have an Android phone so I'm still jealous of what you guys can do with the iPhone. They have not been good about supporting Android (just released something not too long ago). But it's better than what I used to do, which is mainly use the email on my phone to capture (with it's associated no-tagging issues). I'm happy to have it easier now with a real app, but it's still somewhat crippled compared to iPhone's.
- Lindsay
For the record, I started this morning with about 350 notes but I've been culling and merging as I'm organizing so I'm down to 248. Remember, I haven't been using Evernote as much as I should because mine was so disorganized. Now I have a crap load of hierarchical tags and only six notebooks. I have 125 notes left to triage from my new Inbox notebook.
- Akiva
Oh, one other tip for the emails and other automatic imports. If it's something I'm expecting (for instance, I have my daily FriendFeed activity imported so I have a record of conversations and good info even if people delete their accounts), I create a saved search to group all the notes that haven't been tagged and then tag them... that way it's kind of a quick batch activity.
- Lindsay
The really annoying part about this is now I have to wait about 11 hours before I can actually do any maintenance work on my Evernote data :)
- Brett Kelly
from IM
Now I wish there was some way to link notes in Evernote with tasks in OmniFocus.
- Akiva
Reading this awesome thread, I am reminded how evernote bush league I am. And I haven't even been showing up to practices!
- Micah
How do you find the PDF version of manuals, Glen? I have a hard time finding them... wondering if you have a good resource to look them up...
- Lindsay
If the manual isn't too large, I'll usually scan it with my scansnap, save it to EN and poopcan the original.
- Brett Kelly
I hate scanning paper, much less books. I would love to just find the PDFs somewhere instead. Thinking about using that Pixily service to send them all my stuff to scan instead. But they wouldn't do books, I'm sure.
- Lindsay
Wow this conversation's moving fast! I posted something at the end of last year highlighting what the pros and cons of tags vs notebooks in Evernote. http://ow.ly/TQHC I also store manuals and the like. I have predominantly PDFs scoured from manufacturer web sites, with a few scans output to PDF and even a few photos of those instructions on the back of packaging that inevitably end up in the bin.
- Stephen Millard
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I have a lot of programming, academic, and gaming manuals in PDF. You guys store ALL of that in Evernote? What's the benefit of it rather than just having them in a Dropbox folder?
- Akiva
PDFs are indexed and searchable in evernote, for one
- Brett Kelly
from IM
They're in one place with all your other stuff, for two.
- Lindsay
Interesting. Not sure I'll do this because I do a lot of reading from my iPhone and I can guarantee you that GoodReader's a better PDF reader than whatever Evernote has built in.
- Akiva
You can add additional information like keywords or other meta data to the note containing the PDF for a third... (I'm also a big DropBox fan/user)
- Stephen Millard
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Speaking of, I hope a future version of OS X has metadata options beyond a label and 'Spotlight Comments'.
- Akiva
Interesting. I didn't know you can set child tags. I like how Lindsay ended up organizing her notes.
- Rodfather
Sorry if it was mentioned above and I missed it while scanning, but you can now tag or send to a particular notebook via email. This is HUGE (at least for me)! http://blog.evernote.com/2010... I'm approaching 4K notes, and have just a few notebooks. Like someone else noted, I created a few for big topic areas... but the majority goes into one...
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- Herb Hernandez
I've been using Evernote since the early days too. I didn't make the leap to web, or the change to versions without the ticker tape. All I ever wanted was a replacement for paper and pen, and that is what I still have on my desktop and laptop. One click and I am writing. Every so often I manually synchronise between desktop and laptop. It's no great trouble. I am glad I never upgraded from version 2.1. It only went downhill from there for other users I reckon.
- Daithí
I now use Dropbox to synchronise. Laptop and PC or web, but I still have the old Evernote. Paper and Pen are far better for somethings, and having an electronic paper and pen that I can access from anywhere is great. Its just a pity Evernote dumped the Paper and Pen /Scrolling notebook concept in their later versions. Any one any idea if Evernote 2.2 will work on windows 7, or if the iPad will ever be compatible with Windows programs?
- Daithí
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"Springpad, a rival to Evernote's popular cross-platform note-taking service, has just bumped the competition up a notch with a new release that integrates semantic technology to automatically enhance the notes you save with relevant info. What this means is that if you save a movie, Springpad is smart enough to know it's a movie and it will offer you showtimes. If you save a product, Springpad displays price comparisons and links to shopping sites. Save a recipe and you get menu suggestions. And the list goes on. In other words, Springpad doesn't want to just be a note-taking app, it wants to be a fully realized digital assistant."
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Interesting, but just from the demo I might feel boxed in with it trying to organize everything for me. I wish that Evernote would just offer templates (or set up the clients so that people can build their own) and that would make a big difference in their adoption rate, I think.
- Lindsay
I agree.
- Son of Groucho
If you were going to use a service for a group collaboration project that could go on for months, which service would you use. 1) Friendfreed private groups 2) Google Wave 3) Google Groups 4) Evernote 5) Other insert name here. Goal is to share things,spark conversation & also use as a curation model and search effectively over past shared items.
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One of the wiki type services might work, like http://www.wetpaint.com/. Ning is a possibility.
- Todd Hoff
Amber have you used scribblar yourself yet? It looks interesting.
- Amani
There's also TypeWith.me
- Todd Hoff
Wave for collaboration
- Wei-Yen Tan
I played with it, I was going to us it on an upcoming project.
- The Amber
Wave
- Vezquex
Cubicl.com is a new group collaboration service. Also try teambox
- TrafficBug
You can also try Basecamp
- TrafficBug
Honestly? I would buy a cheap domain, set up a free Google Apps for Domains account for the project, give everyone on the team an account. Instant email, docs (which will store any type of file now), calendar, chat, and a bunch of other collaboration tools. They finally added Buzz and I think you might be able to use Wave too. I've used Google Apps on a couple of projects now and it works pretty well. If you have code to store, Beanstalk (http://beanstalkapp.com/) works pretty well.
- Lindsay
Definitely Wave because, even if it doesn't cover all the bases, it still gives you the ability to link to other stuff, embed some media, and act as a realtime central rallying point.
- Rah-PM 2012
See this: http://ff.im/haQgK
- MohanArun
a posterous group blog .. depending on the amount of conversation you could curate there (via email, bookmarklet) and feed it to a friendfeed group for discussion.
- Chris Myles
I am going to have to check out some of these new services. I am still partial to combining Wave and Google Apps b/c the team I am working with is very familiar with Google Apps and I don't want to confuse them. Also heard some stuff about Manymoon which ties into Google Apps as well I think.
- Amani
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Cuteless! :)
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I like it - though I disagree that it's the 'most gorgeous photo sharing site yet' :)
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
That said, I do think that the interaction is interesting - this hand-holding tutorial-UI is nice (so far) - more comments as I explore this further :)
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
what have you seen that's prettier?
- Zee.
I am a big proponent for transparent UIs. Great user experience is sexy + 'pretty' to me. Right now I am not too happy with the UX. For photo sharing I think that http://1x.com is the best right now
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
UX wise Flickr has the lead.
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
i hadn't heard of 1x, it does look awesome
- Zee.
I tried it just now and am really digging it so far. There was no "like" action, but I made a trivial comment on some photos I thought were interesting, and the bundle of photos appeared neatly in my profile's activity stream. Still, a lot of work to be done. They really ought to have RSS or Atom, though. And the mystery-meat navigation sucks hard. Also, the text is difficult to read in Windows because of the lighter way that text is rendered as opposed to OS X.
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What's a "transparent UI"?
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Transparent interface. An ideology where the UI is unnoticeable and non-distracting to the user. I am applying the philosophy of typography in this context. The idea that typography should be transparent and unnoticeable is best described in Beatrice Warde's essay The Crystal Goblet (written in 1955) http://gmunch.home.pipeline.com/typo-L...
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Just posted a number of important updates to this post.
- Zee.
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1. guzel fikir; 2. Don't'un ayiraci eksik kalmis; 3. Boyle seyleri FH ile tasarlama. FH'nin gradient'leri banding sorununa yol aciyor. :)
- Melih Sancar
Esasında, gradientlerin oluşturulmasında hiçbir sorun yok. Sorun, FH'nin PostScript desteğindeki yeterlilikle (bkz. bug) ilgili. Bu yüzden dışa aktarımlarda (.eps) sorun oluyor. Sadece banding de değil, geçişler arasında oluşan beyaz kırpıklıklar (white lines) da sözkonusu. (Bkz. Kusurlu Mal), (Bkz. Adobe).
- Kazım Taşkın
Bkz. Macromedia
- Melih Sancar
Aha pas geldi. Adobe hala sattığı bir yazılımın buglarını niye düzeltmiyor? Nerede bu devlet?
- Zafer Emecan
Sallamiyor desek :) Zaten kac tane satiliyordur o da ayri konu.
- Melih Sancar
Gerçi sağda solda adobe'nin freehand'i satacağı yolunda söylentiler var. Belki de bu yüzden hala satmayı sürdürüyor.
- Zafer Emecan
Sattığı kusurlu maldan rahatsız olmamak hatta sallamıyor olmak da kanıksadığımız bir tepki biçimi haline geldiğinden, Adobe'ye burdan selam ediyorum sadece. Dayatmacılık hayatın her alanında başımıza gelebiliyor zira. Hele ki şu 'kumsaldaki kum tanesisin' yaklaşımına bitiyorum ben. (@Melih'cim, sana değil bu sitemler, yanlış anlamayasın. :) )
- Kazım Taşkın
Çözüme ilişkin de birkaç kelam edelim; gradient dolgu tipini dışa aktarırken bitmap (piksel) tabanlı bir format tipini seçersek sorun yaşamıyoruz. İlla Photoshop ile açıp editleyeceksek de, önce .ai export edip sonra bunu Illustrator üzerinden Photoshop'a aktardığımızda yine sorun yaşamayız. Illustrator & PostScript uyumluluğu kusursuz olduğundan, .ai formatlı degrade veya transparency...
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- Kazım Taşkın
Bir dusunelim, bir yazilim uretiyorsun. Dunyada kullanan yok. Bir Turkiye diye bir ulke bu yazilimi ciddiye almis. O ulkenin de kullanicilari %97 oraninda lisanssiz kullaniyor. Bir yazilim sirketi yoneticisi olsaniz ne yapardiniz?
- Melih Sancar
Türkiye diye bir ülke mi? Üstelik dünyalı bile değil, teessüf ederim bu ifadelerinden dolayı Melih.
- Kazım Taşkın
WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE We want FreeHand to have a future. Not only because we love to work with it, but also because we have thousands of files from the past we may need access to on any given occasion (well, they open in AI, but are converted into chaos). Our wish is a simple one: For those who still use FreeHand today (and don't want to use Illustrator, possible reasons for which are...
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- Kazım Taşkın
Gereksiz alinmisin Kazim'im. Ben onu Amerikanyali birinin agzindan yazdigim icin oyle yazdim...
- Melih Sancar
Bu freefreehand.org sitesi bile ancak 5000 uye toplayabilmis. Matbaacilar sitesine girip soyle bir sallasan bir oradan 5000 FH kullanicisi cikar.
- Melih Sancar
Gereksiz alındığımı sanmıyorum, problem halen 'kumsaldaki kum tanesi' hesabına göre ele alınıyor. Ben ona yanıyorum.
- Kazım Taşkın
Cok duygusal bakiyorsun olaya. Adamlar satamayacaklari urun icin neden kaynak ayirsinlar. Buna nasil bir cevabin var?
- Melih Sancar
Satamayacaklarına kim karar veriyor bu bilgiyi nereden aldın? Misal, Freehand'i geliştirip Creative Suite paketi içerisine koysalar ve Illustrator'u FH'ye benzetme saçmalığından vazgeçseler, kaybederler mi?
- Kazım Taşkın
Bir de, konumlama adına, Illustrator'u nereye koyacağını şaşırdı Adobe saptaması kime ait acaba? : )
- Kazım Taşkın
Adamlar Aldus'u satin aldiklarinda (sene 95 falan) FreeHand'i Illustrator'e ciddi bir rakip gorseler o zamandan Macromedia'ya satmazlardi. Adobe Creative Suite icinde FreeHand gibi her isi yaptigini iddia eden bir programa yer oldugunu hic dusunmuyorum. CS setinde hersey yerli yerinde. FreeHand ise icerik uretme araci desen degil, finalize etme araci desen o da degil. Ortada kaliyor...
- Melih Sancar
Eski model bir yazılıma 2010'dan nanik yapmak, mevcut şartlara bakarak hüküm vermek kolaya kaçmak oluyor. Kimin neyi neden sattığını bilemeyiz ve bizi ilgilendirmiyor da. Ben diyorum ki, Adobe olarak bu yazılımı halen satıyorsun ama hatalarından arındırmıyorsun ve bundan da zerre rahatsızlık duymuyorsun. Ve hatta web sitende FH MX'i halen satıyor oluşunu müşterilere bir nevi kıyak...
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- Kazım Taşkın
Tartışmaya ufak bir bilgi ile katkıda bulunayım: Adobe Macromedia'yı satın aldığında ABD'de Freehand'in kullanım oranı %20'ye dayanmıştı. Yani Freehand ABD içinde dahi geniş bir kullanıma sahipti.
- Zafer Emecan
Illustrator'e 'Like Freehand' özelliği Turkish Cowboys için mi getirildi diye merak etmekteyim şimdi. Çoklu sayfa entegrasyonunu es geçerek.
- Kazım Taşkın
Diğer ülkeleri bilmem ama Türkiye'yi kriter olarak alabilirim şu konuda; mesela burda ayıplı (defolu) bir mal, normal değerinin çok altında satılır. Türkiye'de FH MX kaça satılıyor acaba bilen var mı? Ona göre tartışmayı götürelim. Şimdi sudan ucuz satılan bir mal için de kendimizi madara etmeyelim şurda.
- Kazım Taşkın
580 dolar + kdv'ye satın alabilirsin kazımcım. Çatır çatır satılmıyorsa yerim bu klavyeyi :)
- Zafer Emecan
Use FreeHand MX for creative design, storyboarding, document production, and editing with an unparalleled set of creative design tools. Easily repurpose your designs for print, the Internet, or Adobe Flash. Get a tour of the features... diyor adobe ilgili ürün sayfasında... http://www.adobe.com/eeurope...
- sy
@Zafer, 'Atma hamidiye atma!'
- Kazım Taşkın
Atlantik'i arayıp fiyat al abi, telefonunu vereyim: (0312) 231 59 42
- Zafer Emecan
Bu arada banding'den kurtulmak için normal büyüklüğünün 5-10 katına büyütüp .eps yapmayı deneyin...
- sy
FH rulezzzz! (:
- sy
Allah allah yav doğru mu bu fiyat vallahi soracağım pazartesi. Peki, tek başına Illustrator'u satın alsak o kaça geliyor?
- Kazım Taşkın
Abi tek başına illustratör 900 dolar civarında sanırım. FH ise 580 dolar aralığında (kdv hariç fiyatlar) satılıyor. Fiyatları Hepsiburada.com'dan da teyit edebilirsin. Hatta Atlantik'in içinde tanıdık eş dost falan varsa FH'in hali hazırda aylık kaç adet satıldığına da ulaşılabilir.
- Zafer Emecan
Boşa konuşmuyormuşuz. Ayıp ayıp, başka da birşey demiyorum.
- Kazım Taşkın
Ne o Kazımcıım, tarihe gömüleli çok olmuş, her yanı buglarla dolu Freehand'in 150 dolara mı satılacağını düşünmüştün? Tabi ki hala sektörün %80'inden fazlasının ana tasarım aracına 600 doları bayılacaksın.
- Zafer Emecan
Ben prepress ortamındayken %99 .fh11 idi uzantılar.
- Kazım Taşkın
İyi de konuyu ICONSY'ye bağlamak lazım şimdi :)
- Kazım Taşkın
Bu bir nevi ekran koruyucu olsa gerek SY'cim.
- Kazım Taşkın
Abi bildiğin gibi şu anda bir matbaada çalışıyorum. Matbaamız da ayıptır söylemesi biraz büyükçe olduğundan, çoğunlukla anlı şanlı firmaların anlı şanlı ajanslardan gelen işlerini basıyoruz. Ve tahmin edeceğin gibi, hala gelen işlerin %90'ı freehand. Belki şaşırtıcı gelecek ama, CorelDraw ile gelen işler Indesign ve Illustrator'den fazla.
- Zafer Emecan
FH tartışması olmuş bak kaçırmışım tüh :P
- Hüseyin Usta
Freehand'in tartışması yok. Sektörün içinde, üretimde olanların %80'inden fazlası ana tasarım uygulaması olarak hala bu programı kullanıyorlar ve herhangi bir şikayetleri yok. Eğitim sektöründe yer alan küçük bir kesim ise Adobe CS setindeki Indesign ve Illustrator'ün artık ilk tercih olduğunu, insanların FH yerine bu programlara yöneldiğini iddia ediyorlar. Bizler de; "allah allah ne diyor bu insanlar, biz başka bir ülkede mi yaşıyoruz?" düşünceleri içinde şaşkınlıkla izliyoruz.
- Zafer Emecan
@Kazım, ikon seti... (:
- sy
Reklam ajanslarında halen FH jenerasyonundan gelen kreatif hakimiyeti var. Indesign, Illustrator gibi yazılımlara takla attırsanız bile, bu eski jenerasyon tarafından FH'ye yönlendiriliyorsunuz. Ne zaman bu eski jenerasyon alaşağı edilir, işte o zaman CS hakimiyeti kendisini hissettirir. Final dosya .pdf olduğu sürece de matbaaların ne kullandığının fazla bir önemi yok.
- Kazım Taşkın
@sy, tamam da elleme derken meşaş vermiyor muyuz onu diyorum :)
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Fh-Illustrator veya Indesign-QuarkXpress tartışmalarını reklam/basın yayın sektöründe iş üreten (şaka gibi gelebilir ama, ayda en az dört katalog, onlarca afiş, poster, bilboard ve ilan çalışmasını tasarlayıp, üretip baskıya gönderiyorum. Bu seviyede iş yapan birileri ile yani) insanlarla yapmak daha faydalı olur diye düşünüyorum. Fakat şimdiye kadar eğitim sektöründekiler haricinde...
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- Zafer Emecan
"FreeHand gibi her isi yaptigini iddia eden bir program" ifadesini de kabul etmiyorum. Tam tersi, biz yıllardır güncellenmediğini, bug'larla dolu oluşunu dile getirip duruyoruz. Kullanıcılar da bunun farkındalar ve geçiş yapılıyorsa eğer başlıca etkenlerden biri de budur haklı olarak. Ha, her işi yapmaya yeltenenler olabilir ama bu FH'yi bağlamaz. PowerPoint'le mizanpaj yapmaya kalkılırsa bu da Microsoft'un sorunu olmayacak.
- Kazım Taşkın
Kazım :-)
- Hüseyin Usta
Gülünce gözlerinin içi gülüyor hüseyin ;)
- Kazım Taşkın
Daha ne yapılacak bilmiyorum FH'i bitirip Illustrator/Indesign satabilmek için: Bütün ajanslar tek tek dolaşılıp Indesign/Illustratör seminerleri bile düzenlendi. Bir gün hiç unutmam, bir ajansta yeni işe başlamışım, medyasoft'tan aradılar tanıtım semineri için randevu alma amaçlı. Neyse patronu bağladılar telefona, kibarca şu cümleleri sarfetti: "teşekkür ederim hanımefendi, zafer emecan ile çalışmaya başladık, gerektiği zaman ona soruyoruz"...
- Zafer Emecan
her ajansta zafer yok ama...
- Hüseyin Usta
gestetnerciler deluxe paintcilere.. onlar dr. haloculara.. halocular corelcilere, (bu aralarda macciler pccilere falan da giriyor) corelciler fhcilere, fhciler.. bitmiyor şu mesele.. galiba bitmeyecek de.. 10 yıl önce deneyimli bir ağbimiz corel öldü derdi, umarım kendisi hala yaşıyordur.. yani hani görmek istiyorsa sonunu biraz beklemesi gerekecek..(neyin sonunu tabii)
- mehmet t. akalın
Ajans ortamında kimin neyi bildiği fazla umursanmıyor, elbette bilgi birikimi önemli tabi ve fakat aslolan işlerin yürümesidir. O ya da bu şekilde. Yani, her ajansta bir zafer bir hüseyin olması gerekmiyor. Sadece bizler kendimizi buna inandırmışız.
- Kazım Taşkın
Misal de vereyim; büyük bir reklam ajansına iş başvurusu yapmış olalım. Birimiz tasarımcı kimliğimizin yanında üstümüze vazifeymiş gibi tüm yazılımları da bildiğimizi ifade edelim. Sistem hakimiyeti, extra yetenekler vs. gırla gitsin. Diğerimiz, ben aylık 2 bin liraya çalışırım demiş olsun. Bakın bakalım kimi işe alıyorlar. Denemesi bedava.
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Hikayelere devam edelim. Malum, hepimiz Bonus Kartı biliriz. Her mağazada 3D olarak yazılmış +3 vs taksit afişlerine de aşinayızdır. Fakat bu ürünün afiş çalışmalarının Freehand ile yapıldığını bilmeyiz. Neyse, ajansta işe başladım, Bonus Card tasarımlarını yapma işi bana düştü. Eski eleman ajansın bir köşesindeki klasik sistem yüklü G3'ü açıp FH 8'i çalıştırdı. KPT filtresini açarak +3...
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- Zafer Emecan
Verdiğin bu örnekten de anlaşılacağı gibi, önemli olan işlerin yürümesidir Zafercim :) Kâh Classic OS + KPT, kâh Illustrator + FH. Sonunda kazanan kim, kaybeden kim sen bana onu söyle. Yani başın göğe erdi mi, baş tacı edildin mi?
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Kaybeden biziz abi. Kurslardı, eğitim programlarıydı falan filan diye piyasaya grafiker olduğunu sanan onbinlerce kişi saldılar, mesleği bitirdiler. Daha 2 yıl önceye kadar 3000 lira'dan aşağı işe girmeyen "tecrübeli" tasarımcılar bugün 1200 liraya iş bulamıyor. Ne kadar yetenekli ve tecrübeli olduğunun ve grafik yazılımlarının kaç tanesini ne kadar iyi kullandığının artık hiçbir önemi yok.
- Zafer Emecan
Yav, konu nerelere geldi şimdi :)
- Kazım Taşkın
2 yıldan uzun süredir aynı yerde çalışanların reklam / yayın piyasasının ne hale geldiğinden de haberi yok abi. Bilmiyorlar ki, bir iş değişikliğinde aldıkları ücret yarı yarıya düşecek, o da iş bulabilirlerse :)) Sonra hala yok FH iyiydi de, çevresi kötüydü muhabbeti... Geçin abi bunları, kimseye tek bir bilgi kırıntısı öğretmiyorum artık mesleğimle ilgili.
- Zafer Emecan
İstisnalar olsa da, evet durum şimdi aynen böyle maalesef. Bir de zam beklentisinde olanlar var abi :) Te allam.
- Kazım Taşkın
Geçenlerde bu adobecilerin görsel tasarımlarını hazırlayan ajans ile bir iş görüşmesi yapmıştım, 2 dakika sürdü. "bu pozisyon için 1500 lira ücret düşünüyoruz" lafını duymamla; "pardon, ben size öğrencilerimden birini göndereyim o zaman" deyip ayağa kalkmam bir oldu... bu ne be?
- Zafer Emecan
İşte buna "lütfetmek" deniyor. Lütfetmişler sana. :)
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A Photoshop disaster.... Viagra Powered Aircraft :D
denise, İbrahim Uzun [ j ], Jorge Ortiz and 6 other people liked this
Levitating as well, no nose wheel........
- Mel Buckpitt
"Ucuza mal edilen her hizmet çok pahalıya mal olabiliyor" Hele ki havacılıkta...
- A. Uğur Alparslan
I just had a thought. If I could have an iPad and be able to use feedly http://www.feedly.com/ I would have one right away.
denise, chrisofspades, Kol Tregaskes and 6 other people liked this
We are working hard on feedly for iphone. once that snake is dead. We will look into feedly for ipad.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
That is good to hear.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Good news, I must insist here, thanks again for the Chrome integration, I was there when it was still unavailable, and was astonished at how it ran after that dev period I have missed. Keep on Edwin, your project's mean a lot to me. Any words on semantic data? It was unavailable on multiple posts I've seen couple months back, was there any stop of use?
- Zu from AOD
Edwin, I would most honestly like to have a feature that provides the feeds on top based on the number of times it was read and liked. It would help the entire world by reading only, say 10%, what we must read. A digg of Feedly?
- ThinkEzy
I would also like a Popurls like feature. I stopped using Popurls when I joined Feedly. But, I still miss it a lot, especially the flickr feed. The hover effect is wonderful. By the way, what is the Delicious feed that appears in Popurls? That's the only thing I can't get in feedly?
- ThinkEzy
Edwin, Feedly has the potential to become one of the killer apps for the iPad. Of course, feedly for the iPhone will be amazing too. I'm looking forward to both of them!
- Michael Fidler
Thanks for all the feedback. As soon as we are done with feedly mobile, we will turn out to the community to build the roadmap for feedly 3.5. It would be great if you could raise some of these suggestions at that point. @Michael. iPad is definitely in our radar but need to buy one and play with it for a few weeks before we can start the design work for that.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Paint.Net plugin lets you view and edit Photoshop PSD files - http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010...
denise, Philip, SAM and 2 other people liked this
"The aptly-named Paint.Net PSD Plugin is one of those pieces of software which pretty much spells it all out right in the name. It's a plugin...for Paint.Net...(wait for it)...which lets you open files saved in Photoshop's PSD format."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
I use paint.net for all kinds of things... it's just my level of complexity (not very) and still has layers... I love it!!!
- SAM
Has anyone tried nsyght (another FriendFeed alternative)? - http://www.nsyght.com/
Mike Chelen, Marty, denise and 14 other people liked this
Sadly no profile URLs but you can see my feed here as an example: http://www.nsyght.com/everyon...
- Kol Tregaskes
Tried earlier; was getting 500 errors. Will try again.
- Mark H
It seems to be working now here anyway. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Like other FF alternative's it's got a lot of work to catch up. Nothing of interest here right now. Cliqset is still the better one, though a long way off.
- Kol Tregaskes
I refuse to try it until I know how to pronounce it.
- Akiva
LOL, Akiva. I can't help you there.
- Kol Tregaskes
Oh. Probably like 'insight'.
- Akiva
Akiva is correct.
- Geoffrey McCaleb
Ah, yes. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Sorry about the 500's guys, we got hit by a lot of users in a short amount of time. Should be fine now. Keep in mind we are just a month old and have a lot of work ahead of us, however we do one thing that FF or even cliqset does not do, we aggregate your friends so you dont have to start over. Still, keep an eye on us we have a lot of cool stuff coming out soon!
- Geoffrey McCaleb
Might as well camp while the camping's good.
- Akiva
site is not taking OpenID creds to register.
- Thom Kennon
Which service do you use?
- Geoffrey McCaleb
Geoffrey, yep will keep an eye on it.
- Kol Tregaskes
BTW when I click to add Vimeo nothing happens.
- Kol Tregaskes
Unfortunately we don't support Vimeo likes as of yet (will do so in a week), just posted items
- Geoffrey McCaleb
We are all big fans of vimeo...
- Geoffrey McCaleb
When trying to add twitter, it returns: "403 Forbidden: The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it." Eh?
- Stephan Planken
Thanks i am going to have a look at nsyght now.
- Jason
ATTN: admin of nsyght i need some help read my comments here: http://friendfeed.com/puffadd...
- Jason
I couldn't register with my OpenID
- LouCypher
I just signed up tonight.
- Joe Bonner
pushing comments to the right threat on facebook is nice!
- Chris Hofmann
prod fixed thanks :)
- Jason
This on the backburner too. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
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