"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
A co-worker mentioned to me yesterday that a colleague of his is thinking about starting an online journal club type website for scientists. The idea seems to be discussions about papers, data sets, and other web-publishable materials, from any source, in a central location. It would also have discussions about scientific culture, which made me...
It would be a place where people (students, junior faculty, etc) could learn the ropes of academia and science without the pain and misery that traditionally is required. The differences I can see from existing services is the focus on journal club-style discussions and maybe a low barrier to entry
- Shirley Wu
from twhirl
But obviously, whatever he ends up pursuing should learn from the trials and tribulations of the many related services out there (including services like FF, which is also discussion-oriented)
- Shirley Wu
from twhirl
It's easy to immediately discount any proposal that sounds like yet another facebook for scientists, but there are still some interesting and potentially good ideas out there. Unfortunately, people who aren't as familiar with the existence of these tools always think of facebook as the ideal and as a brand new idea if applied to the scientist community. Hopefully I convinced my co-worker otherwise, while still encouraging the more innovative aspects of the concept. <end rant>
- Shirley Wu
from twhirl
AcaWiki is built around a very similar concept, and John Wilbanks makes an argument for bringing journal clubs online (cf. http://ff.im/airoV ).
- Daniel Mietchen
Shirley, Besides AcaWiki (great place to have these discussions, but I'm biased! http://acawiki.org/ ) your colleague also might be interested in GradTurkey, a journal-club discussion wiki originally aimed at grad students: http://gradturkey.fastcoder.net/
- Jodi Schneider
can discussion on AcaWiki be linkable and embeddable for public like you can do on FF? If not, so why don't do journal club on FF? Can't get it
- Alexey
this topic came up during a discussion today with Mike Eisen of PLoS, re: why commenting hasn't really taken off - his thought is that people are more likely to comment if there's a central place to do it rather than individually at each journal website for each paper (how many of us access papers directly through journal websites except through PubMed anyway?). The whole time I was...
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- Shirley Wu
from twhirl
can somebody point to the platform for journal club online better then blog post? It's combine everything - presentation (ppt embedded from SlideShare or Gdocs, video embedded from YouTube/Vimeo...) presenter's opinion, discussion section under the post, embedded comments from FF, ranking of the presentation and number of views. Importantly you don't need to register or get account for commenting, it's public and linkable, moderatable . Whole world can participate. What can be better?
- Alexey
@Neil Saunders Were you thinking of JournalFire? We recently updated the site and are looking for feedback. I posted about it yesterday: http://friendfeed.com/the-lif...
- John Delacruz
"Caroline Herschel (1750-1848) was the first woman to discover a comet and the first to have her work published by the Royal Society. * Mary Anning (1799-1847) began a long career as a fossil hunter. She found hundreds, possibly thousands, of fossils that helped scientists to draw a picture of the marine world 200 million to 140 million years ago during the Jurassic. (...) * Barbara McClintock (1902-1992) was awarded a Lasker Prize in 1981 and Nobel Prize in 1983. She discovered that genes could move within and between chromosomes. (...)....
- Amira
Ada Lovelace - (1815-1852) English writer chiefly known for her work on Charles Babbage's early mechanical general-purpose computer, the analytical engine. Her notes on the engine include what is recognised as the first algorithm intended to be processed by a machine; as such she is sometimes portrayed as the "World's First Computer Programmer"." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Amira
Grace Murray Hopper - (1906-1992) "American computer scientist and United States Navy officer. A pioneer in the field, she was one of the first programmers of the Harvard Mark I computer, and developed the first compiler for a computer programming language. She conceptualized the idea of machine-independent programming languages, which led to the development of COBOL, one of the first modern programming languages." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Amira
"A time-lapse taken from the front of the International Space Station as it orbits our planet at night. This movie begins over the Pacific Ocean and continues over North and South America before entering daylight near Antarctica. Visible cities, countries and landmarks include (in order) Vancouver Island, Victoria, Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, San Fransisco, Los Angeles. Phoenix. Multiple cities in Texas, New Mexico and Mexico. Mexico City, the Gulf of Mexico, the Yucatan Peninsula, Lightning in the Pacific Ocean, Guatemala, Panama, Columbia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile, and the Amazon. Also visible is the earths ionosphere (thin yellow line) and the stars of our galaxy."
- Amira
from Bookmarklet
"A Swedish man who was arrested after trying to split atoms in his kitchen says he was only doing it as a hobby. (...) Richard Handl said that he had the radioactive elements radium, americium and uranium in his apartment in southern Sweden when police showed up and arrested him on charges of unauthorised possession of nuclear material. The 31-year-old Handl said he had tried for months to set up a nuclear reactor at home and kept a blog about his experiments, describing how he created a small meltdown on his stove. Only later did he realise it might not be legal and sent a question to Sweden's Radiation Authority, which answered by sending the police. "I have always been interested in physics and chemistry," Handl said, adding he just wanted to "see if it's possible to split atoms at home."
- Amira
from Bookmarklet
BTW, what a crappy image with this news item... that looks nothing like a kitchen :(
- Egon Willighagen
"No, it not so dangerous. But I tried to cook Americium, Radium and Beryllium in 96% sulphuric-acid, to easier get them blended. But the whole thing exploded upp in the air..." :-) This reminds me of my childhood when my brother got a set of "The Little Chemist".. On the next day there was a fire in his room... :-)
- Amira
Just looked at many screens of content piped into friendfeed from elsewhere, no real connection going on here any more. I hope to see you on Google Plus (for all its faults).
- AJCann
Well, if you compare my G+ profile with my FriendFeed, it becomes pretty clear which service requires more time and effort to share. If G+ remains a "copy and paste" site, I will never post anything there again: I really don't have the time. For people who are motivated enough to copy and paste every single piece of information they'd like to share to overcome this huge threshold for sharing, G+ may be the place.
- Björn Brembs
I agree with Björn - needs some way to pipe stuff in.
- Christina Pikas
Fair points. Bearing in mind G+ hasn't been officially released yet, I sure this will change with time. I'm particularly keen on getting Google Reader integration.
- AJCann
Its pretty clear that Google are going to open up an API that would enable this but I'm a little disappointed that feeds of some description aren' there as a native feature. I can see G+ being the Friendfeed replacement but it needs some automation as Björn says...
- Cameron Neylon
The automation is all that's left and I am sure it will happen. The more important thing required is not to just have a stream but to do the FF promote on like feature, or even better FB's more intelligent engine
- Deepak Singh
I agree with Deepak -- G+ still needs some work to truly be a FF replacement (the lack of "Groups" and inability to automatically pipe updates to/from the service are obvious gaps identified), but its the best one that has emerged and given the relative triviality of the two features to implement (I think they didn't turn on the piping mainly to encourage people to share original content on G+), I'm pretty sure they will bridge that gap soon.
- Benjamin Tseng
"Mapping of the human connectome offers a unique opportunity to understand the complete details of neural connectivity. The Human Connectome Project (HCP) is a project to construct a map of the complete structural and functional neural connections in vivo within and across individuals. The HCP represents the first large-scale attempt to collect and share data of a scope and detail sufficient to begin the process of addressing deeply fundamental questions about human connectional anatomy and variation. A collaboration between MGH and UCLA, the HCP is being developed to employ advanced neuroimaging methods, and to construct an extensive informatics infrastructure to link these data and connectivity models to detailed phenomic and genomic data, building upon existing multidisciplinary and collaborative efforts currently underway. Working closely with other HCP partners based at Washington University in St. Louis we will provide rich data, essential imaging protocols, and sophisticated connectivity analysis tools for the neuroscience community."
- Amira
from Bookmarklet
I think Google+ is going to pretty much kill Friendfeed. All the features (plus some) but also with a future ahead of it. Plus absolutely everybody I know from here is already on there.
- Mr. Gunn
Interesting assessment, Mr Gunn !! I'm not on Google+ yet, still in the queue. So, could we FINALLY now have the long awaited replacement for FriendFeed ?
- Graham Steel
What is really important that with Google Takeout you can easily download your own stuff from G+. Including conversations (!).
- Pawel Szczesny
Mr. Gunn... "you incensitive clod!" a slashdotter would say... some here don't have invites yet, OK? :)
- Egon Willighagen
So how does Google+ work actually with respect to aggregating content from multiple RSS feeds?
- Egon Willighagen
Ah, Mr. Gunn, I should have known you don't know me. You are awfully fond of "death of" pronouncements, aren't you. (Not on Google+, no hurry to be there.)
- Walt Crawford
Google+ won't kill Friendfeed until it supports importing.
- Victor Ganata
I stand with Heather and agree with Victor: I *want* Google+ to be an adequate replacement for FF, but it is missing vital functions.
- Bill Hooker