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Zee.
Editor in Chief at TheNextWeb.com. CoFounder of WeDoCreative. Bio & blog here: http://www.zee.me
...and i'm up...i can't see anything without closing one eye...but i'm up at least up. Now, where's the red bull...?
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Rufus chillin on me. I think it’s quite a cool photo actually… - http://www.zee.me/blog...
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awww
- Daynah
Facebook being sued for click fraud - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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At the Techcrunch Europe Awards: The Europas - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
why any site uses "trebuchet" as its main font i'll never know...
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However, using a trebuchet to destroy one's enemies is very cool.
- Ladybug Heather
++++Heather !
- Richard Walker *cultUtee*
I'll admit to having used it as my web site's font for a while. I found it clear and a little different. But come on, at least it's not Comic Sans!
- Scott of Two Countries
Isn't it a "display" typeface rather than a "book"? (As in, great for titles, headlines, etc, but not so much for body text.)
- Andrew C
Friendfeed team, big request here...We use groups to discuss blog posting for thenextweb. One of the most frustrating things is when we cant forward emails into the group. When we do, they cut chopped off because of text limit...is there a way round that? or a way to maybe attach emails as a txt file if they're too long maybe?
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Having the ability to forward full emails would be great, I could then use FF as a email reader. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hi Zee, thanks for this suggestion. It's something we'll definitely think about adding.
- Ana
Prediction: Google and Apple go to War. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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Zee: From your post -- "Secretly, its something I’ve wanted for quite some time; an open source, fast, lightweight and secure OS with the web and Google’s services (of which I use all) as its backbone." Tell us what is lacking in a plain Linux.
- Nitin Nanivadekar
Props for realizing that Chrome OS isn't just about Windows, which apparently is the only other OS out there from the articles I've been seeing *sarcasm* BUT "I am writing Microsoft’s long term consumer market off now" - Windows 7 pre-order sales have been going through the roof, and Windows dominates the netbook market despite having been very late to it. Good luck with that prediction buddy.
- LANjackal
Of the two major OS producers, Apple is the one most friendly with Google. Microsoft is the one most likely to be going to a war footing, it has the most to lose. It is also the one with most leaden feet. The rug may already have been pulled from under those feet without anyone realising it. Come Monday we shall see what ammunition Microsoft has.
- Gilbert Harding
"Apple is the most friendly with Google" - Really? Because all evidence seems to point to the contrary. IE gets all the latest Google Toolbar features, and just about every Google desktop client hits Windows long before it hits OS X. I think it's hilarious how people are already calling Google victorious after just one opening volley. Chrome is a netbook OS, and there are better-selling...
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- LANjackal
Just because Windows gets Google toys first doesn't imply that Apple isn't friendly towards Google. However I do agree with you over to hoohah this announcement has caused. It is important, but it's important to "wait and see" before sounding the death knell of Windows and OSX. As for Netbooks, I see them as a passing fad until someone comes up with a cheap usable compact touch screen device that actually works.
- Gilbert Harding
I am calling it. Windows is dead. There, I said it. It's official. You heard it here first kids. If Stephen Colbert can end the Iraq war, I can end the Browser war.
- Brian Bufalo
lol, i called it first Brian! Check the article! :P
- Zee.
Love the image, too! Nice.
- Grey Drane
Are you guys in reality, or making jokes? Seriously: "Windows is dead ... Browser war" has it occurred to you that those are 2 very different things. IE could die but Windows would still win if everyone was running Firefox on WIndows. You guys are letting the Google RDF warp your minds. ChromeOS is likely to be a technical success, but it won't kill any of the incumbents
- LANjackal
from IM
I called Windows dead when I switched to Linux a few years ago and haven't switched back. ALTHOUGH...Windows 7 seems to be hitting off a really nice start. I'll never buy it because I'm happy with Linux, but now I can at least tell people who are looking for a new computer not to wait or buy a Mac or have me build one with linux :P Some people...are stuck in their ways with windows
- Mike VanLare (slayerboy)
Come now, you guys haven't been paying attention. Steve Jobs and Tim Cook says netbooks are sucky and terrible. :-)
- Piaw Na
Lan is right...even Google puts its B-team to dev products for the Mac so I don't see how Apple will end up being the player to challenge Google whose core business is being an Ad company. Writing off Windows and MS has always been fashionable but it'll take a lot more than vaporware and an OS that's never broken single digit marketshare to bring down their empire on the desktop.
- Adi
I don't think Windows is dead, and anytime you bet against Microsoft, you're betting against a company that is only at its best when its back is against the wall. Besides, it's not Windows that is dead, but all the desktop OS's. As for Apple and Google, I think there's been a fight brewing for some time. The next OS is going to be browser/cloud based, but it really depends on the...
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- Michael Fidler
Google: light, simple, low cost. Apple: professional, full-featured, high cost. I think they can coexist.
- Francesco Balducci
To be honest I don’t think a new Google OS is going to be much competition for Apple or even Microsoft. Reason being, the OS is going to be geared towards netbooks. And although some may try it out on regular laptops and PCs I don’t think it is going to do much for most people. Personally I will probably only test it if I can do so through VM Fusion.
- Mathew™
Google should port Chrome to Ubuntu Remix. This move is to keep investors warm.
- karthick
Apple should kick out Eric Schmid from their board? http://friendfeed.com/applero...
- Hans Kainz
We made it to digg front page! The bad news is we get flocks of idiots visiting the site
- Zee.
They won't go to war as long as Eric is on their board ;)
- Nicholas James
War, dead, kill, killer, bomb, fail... why are tech journalists always so morbid?
- jakebf
dramatic i like to think jake :)
- Zee.
Apple lose... @nitin: What nromal Linuxes misses? Install and everything works. Yep. MP3, Video-DVD etc. There has been a huge progress in that from distributions like Ubuntu, but still there are too many caveats for normal, "just surf and use" folks. I am using Ubuntu 9.04. I would never even think about giving this to my sister :). And I consider 9.04 as the easiest GNU/Linux around. But you know, it must JUST WORK. I'm sure Google will get on that problem. Install and go...
- Ryo
Eric Schmid must leave Apple or Google very soon...
- Ryo
No Linux distro I've seen can boot almost instantaneously, which I think is Google's goal with stripping it down to only the kernel and the browser. And I think Apple has already ceded the territory Google is trying to claim, seeing as how Apple has yet to release a netbook.
- Victor Ganata
I have a old Sony Vaio laptop, 600mhz celeron with only 256mb of ram. (one of the ram sockets is borked) It struggles to run WinXP because it's always paging stuff to the hard drive. I can't install Ubuntu because there isn't enough ram for the installer. Maybe ChromeOS will make this laptop usable again. By the way I don't recommend Sony Laptops, it's the worst piece of crap I've ever owned.
- Gilbert Harding
it is not a prediction,but reality:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
As a longtime Linux user, I don't see (yet) what Chrome OS will really change. (I'm not talking about the Google logo on a Linux desktop)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Gilbert, I suggest you install Debian on your 'old' laptop. Works great on an old Toshiba Satellite 2180-CDT: AMD K6-2, 96Mb RAM ;-))
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
I dunno, I can't see a browser app competing with the likes of photoshop, final cut or another pro app. There's huge investment in these, and while Google might force a paradigm shift, it's not going to work for every kind of app. Glad to see choice in the market, though.
- Rick Cogley
Yeah, I don't think Google is trying to take Microsoft on at all, except in the very narrow realm of netbooks, and maybe on a long-term basis by trying to shift the dominant paradigms of computing. I don't think they're interested in releasing just another Linux distro.
- Victor Ganata
I'm looking for great tech/socialmedia/web blogs that most people have never heard of...the only condition is that they post once a month at least (and that they're interesting of course...) .... and it can be yours.
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along the lines of Louis Gray's under the radar series http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Zee.
Zee, do you know http://www.gravity7.com/blog...? Not sure how well know Adrian's blog is. I particularly enjoy the Social Interaction Design posts
- Matt Hooper
no i don't, thanks Matt
- Zee.
Wink WInk. Nudge Nudge. :) - But seriously, I have stumbled across a few by randomly clicking stuff here in FF, so hopefully those people see this thread.
- Rahsheen ™
long, analytic articles: http://blog.agoeldi.com/ (english blog from a swiss entrepreneur living now in Boston. Disclosure: He's also one of the authors of the german techblog I'm the editor of.)
- Marcel Weiß
Here are a few that I enjoy -- under the radar? I'm not sure: http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/, http://digitalroam.typepad.com/digital..., http://www.hinutech.com (mine...definitely under the radar).
- Josh Asbury
keep em coming folks!
- Zee.
http://www.scumbagmillionaire.com? Not strictly tech, but...
- drbeanbagmd
"Great" is a stretch for certain but I am trying here... http://buildcontext.com/blog
- Ben Hedrington
I'd love some more exposure for Shared Creation - http://www.sharedcreation.com. Its starting to turn into a useful resource so any shout out to help it along would be great
- Robert Davies
Copy cat. :)
- Louis Gray
@Louis, Zee said 'along the lines', not exactly the same! LOL
- Jorge Escobar
Mine's is not a tech blog, but I would love to have your comment on my latest post on social-media http://adkaal.blogspot.com/
- Abhishek Das
I'm not great, but I am technical -- http://theprogrammersparadox.blogspot.com/
- Paul W. Homer
My favorite NUI blog -- http://theclevermonkey.blogspot.com/
- Paul W. Homer
Mine of course! :) http://www.dailypatricia.com -- i wouldn't say it's a social media blog, but i write alot about the internet platform and business around it.
- Patricia
Snap. http://garin.me
- (Garin Kilpatrick)
@Louis, dont worry - i promise i'm not stating a series of posts...just want more blogs faster than your 5 a month! :P
- Zee.
Great idea Zee. Always good to highlight great writing. :)
- Sheryl
www.futurity.org showcases original research from universities regarding tech, the web, society, etc. It's actually run by the universities themselves
- LANjackal
One side benefit is that I might subscribe to any here I haven't seen before, which makes them candidates for next months' lists.
- Louis Gray
well http://minZuD.com may qualify as a Tech blog. Its a tumblr tumblelog I maintain. Has a lot of your stuff in it Zee. It's easy on the eye and is something I am proud to maintain.
- ZuDfunck
Web/tech/social media - check.... Nobody has heard of - check... Once a month - check.... Interesting - I'll let you be the judge. http://www.jimyiapanis.com
- Jim
I'm working on a podcast & blog called Moms Gone Geek. We'd love to see what you think of it :) http://www.momsgonegeek.net Thanks!!
- TheMacMommy
You can visit mine at http://softwarecritics.info and tell me what you think.Thanks!
- Mathdelane
http://www.politechan.com/ is one I started to focus on the politics of technology and government tech efforts.
- Andrew Leyden
http://www.socialfeds.com | Blog with a gov2.0 "roundup" front page, topic is social media/new media in the government.
- Sara
http://www.communityorganizer20.com/ - this focuses on social media/web uses by nonprofits. Some of it is very basic, but there isn't any other blog like this that's not just basically self-promotion for some consultant.
- Amy
Since you asked, my blog focuses on collaboration practice and technology, including social software. http://lehawes.wordpress.com
- Larry Hawes
Hi Zee- one of the ones that I enjoy is Paul Bradshaw's Online Journalism Blog at http://onlinejournalismblog.com. He focuses on worldwide online journalism but integrates tech, tech analysis and the analysis of the ever-changing state of the web. - submitted by Debra Askanase
- Debra Askanase
Android users...any of you ever had an iPhone? If so, how does it compare?
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I've spent a bit of time using an iPhone. It's slick, but being bound to iTunes is a deal breaker for me. I hate iTunes. Also, I much prefer being able to run apps in the background with proper notifications. iPhone push notifications are a really lousy workaround. If I choose to rape my battery, well, that should be my choice.
- Christopher Carr
yeah, the notifications aspect is huge. What do you sync with?
- Zee.
Android phones mount as a mass storage device. I just drag files over. Oh, and there are file browsers for Android.
- Christopher Carr
ah i see
- Zee.
That might be the biggest iPhone annoyance right there -- just mount the damn drive.
- Christopher Carr
So the only thing that brings the iPhone down is a lack of mounted storage? Come on, there's more than that, right?
- Clark Baumgartner
Using both. iPhone is giving a much better UX while Android has some interesting facilities such as bg app. On the other hand, bg apps (e.g. chat + twidroid) are a good bet to get your battery drained at speedlight, so Apple's annoyance has some valid basis...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
I overcame the battery life issue by plugging in at home, in the car, and at the office. A replacement battery is like $15, so I'm not worried about wearing it out.
- Peter Warnock
I've chosen Android over iPhone (never had one, but tested it out intensely) because of the free market policy, the technical aspects (copy&paste from the beginning, compass from the beginning, an earlier update of video, autofocus cam), and the complete integration into the Google services. Push GMail and direct, near realtime calendar sync is a huge effort. And especially the G1 has a...
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- Ryo
It was a really tough call as I knew the iPhone was a much better platform and user experience out the gate, but went with G1 as I made a wild guess that Android would eventually mature and become the dominant platform. I wanted to see it progress first hand from beta (G1) to dominance (???) over the course of the two year contract for the G1.
- Adrian Culici
Also, I really LIKE the look and feel of the G1. It's a miniature computer, complete with keyboard, trackball, etc!
- Adrian Culici
Clark: I'm not sure I said that was the only thing...
- Christopher Carr
I'm a huge evangelist for Android over iPhone. As it's open source it can be whatever you want, as opposed to the iPhone which is whatever Apple wants you to have. The plethora of handsets coming out for Android are also a fantastic sign of things to come. Personally I wanted desperately to have my physical keyboard which is why I went for the G1 instead of waiting for something prettier. All we (the Android community) need to do now is convince devs that it's a viable platform.
- Ethan Kristopher-Hartley
from Android
Announcing Ubiquity 0.5 - https://labs.mozilla.com/2009...
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loving that new minimal theme. Also, I'm using feedly and love the commands it adds to ubiquity!
- Mitchell McKenna
Blind man sees wife for first time after having a TOOTH implanted into his eye - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
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Wait, what?!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from BuddyFeed
this is seriously creeping me out :(
- Yolanda
Ewwww. Ick.
- Randy Caldwell
was it is EYE-tooth?? ok lame joke but it had to be said
- Angela P.
Angela, I think you meant iTooth :)
- Tim Hoeck
as in ipod? um no eye tooth as in the canine tooth of the upper jaw
- Angela P.
Google OS announces Partners. Acer, HP and more… - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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Procrastinate now, don't put it off. For real...
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Gmail and other Google Apps ‘Out of Beta’ - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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About time!
- James Hague
So does this mean that Google will no longer add beta features? or is the 'beta' tag just that, a tag?
- Les Zaldor
I was wondering when they were going to iron out all of the kinks. Only took them 5 years... :)
- Steve Sill
@Les no no, many more beta features to come
- Zee.
heck, if they want to get real innovative they will just think of a new word for beta which masks any new beta developments :P
- Josh Chandler
lol, I seriously JUST posted about this in my friendfeed and in the Apps feed.
- Chieze Okoye
josh, like say for instance, 'labs' ;)
- Chieze Okoye
Ha, Chieze I think you may be onto something, oh wait..... :D
- Josh Chandler
Celine Dion as Michael Jackson... - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Android’s are getting more real than ever. Are you ready? - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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These things are deep in The Uncanny Valley... Creepy.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Still. No. Jetpacks.
- Sir Slippy of Slippington
Want.
- l0ckergn0me
Thought that was Cali Lewis for a second...
- Chris Luckhardt
from iPhone
Hello Kitty, the preferred mascot of androids!
- Miss Elle
she's looking manly
- Eric Nakagawa
2 words - Carpool Lane
- Morgan Haley
This is why we use commas, kids....via @biorhythmist
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LMAO
- jamar78
LMAO
- Yolanda
Oh god...damn!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
if he hadn't used all caps it might have worked without the comma like: fuckin A dude
- Chris Heath
or: fuckin-A dude might have passed as well
- Chris Heath
naa, still awful... :P
- Zee.
lol... then again dude can be any gender nowadays
- AJ Batac
Maybe he really was.
- ronin
That's priceless.
- Joey Gibson
hahahahah
- Bora Mesut PALAS
I don't see what the problem is.
- Derrick
Ell. Emm. Aye. Oh.
- Richard Walker *cultUtee*
DERRICK!!!!! :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
So I guess one should get condoms with commas?
- Richard Walker *cultUtee*
Well, Derrick, it's not something I would want misunderstood. I would TOTALLY want that comma.
- MiniMage (FakeLifePerson)
priceless.
- Laura Norvig
totally funny. i've been the victim of too many commas as well as not enough. And by the way, how are the commas used when fucking a dude? insertion technique? mentos/fellatio style? woven together to form a cock ring type device?
- Morgan Haley
This made me remember a conversation I had with a friend after I very properly left out the comma, and his strange brain inserted one. http://friendfeed.com/minimag...
- MiniMage (FakeLifePerson)
Best thing I ever did was make a tweetdeck group for people who TTFM (tweet too fu**ing much)...
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Just did an interview with Eric @ CS Techcast: The Technology Podcast ... should be live next week. Check out the podcast when you have a minute. - http://www.cstechcast.com/
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Thanks Zee! I concur, check it out :)
- Eric @ CS Techcast
The Ukrainian Version of Katy Perry's HOT and Cold - SO good... - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Man, that accordion lead just, uhm, ...
- Brent - Mugwumps R Us
haha
- stanleyyork
I have no words.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
This is awesome.
- Jordan Hofker
ReadWriteWeb Interview With Tim Berners-Lee, Part 1: Linked Data - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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wha? read it! This is an interview with the founder of the world wide web!!!!!
- Zee.
Wow Al Gore looks much better without a tie on! To bad Al's inconvenient truth left out this interview.
- Chad Harris
This is without doubt the most bizarre thing i've seen this year...(Maybe NSFW) http://www.zee.me/blog...
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Shopped
- Matthew DeVries
What the hell!?
- Matt
That was weird wow
- Wang Yip
What? What? What?!?!?!?1
- George Smith
that's 1min I'm not getting back sign
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
not impressed Dobromir?
- Zee.
is that even real?
- Bryan Penczak
@Bryan it just can't be..can it?
- Zee.
weird - 4sure, impressed - not really
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
idk man, that freaked me out
- Bryan Penczak
Faaaake.
- Rochelle
maybe there are heroes after all... :P
- Zee.
That was pretty impressive. Has that viral quality, doesn't looked too obviously faked. Interesting, at the least.
- Brian McNely
don't normally share these...but this made me LOL. - http://thedw.us/post...
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Zee - You have prefaced a lot of your shared items lately by saying "I don't normally share this..." - I think you should just admit that these are the types of posts you are about....haha :)
- Mike Bracco
lol, really? i'm searching..i bet i haven't :P
- Zee.
Ok maybe I was lying :) only found a couple... http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Mike Bracco
i dont even think those count! :)
- Zee.
haha true - I just made it up I guess...damn FF search!!! Why does it have to be so good! LOL
- Mike Bracco
Great moments is space exploration- Buzz Aldrin punches Bart Sibrel - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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GOLDEN!
- Matt
SSSmackk
- Brent - Mugwumps R Us
You gotta see this...Husband sets off firecrackers behind wife's back.... - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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this just cracked me up...
- Zee.
Pun intended, Zee? Cracked me up? lol
- Matt
serves her right, no playing with guns anymore! :)
- Jacob
Stolen :D
- Slow
I can Just feel the love.
- Brent - Mugwumps R Us
A former insurance executive comes clean about industry practices designed to kick the sick off the rolls and rip off patients to make obscene profits. - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I've just heard the 2nd complaint in a week about some ads on TheNextWeb....I genuinely haven't had any issues when visiting from my side and am wondering if its a regional thing. Can you let me know if you have experienced any beeping or anything that just shouldn't be there?
Just went on, got the offending ads straight away! want a screen shot?
- Simon Wicks
yes please!
- Zee.
Where shall i send it?
- Simon Wicks
just post a link to it here if thats cool
- Zee.
Will do
- Simon Wicks
Here you go: http://ff.im/4XjaZ
- Simon Wicks
wow...that is awful...will look into it now. Thanks Simon
- Zee.
they have a variety of sounds the wobble ones it seems. Just got a windows ding from the banner :) Good luck sorting it.
- Simon Wicks
and a stay at home housewives one I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want on there..
- Simon Wicks
BlogLovin'. An RSS Reader for Non Geeks. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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Really FriendFeed should create a bookmarklet or similar to speed up importing a blog as an Imaginary Friend or Group/Room with 1 or 2 clicks, since it is fast becoming my de facto feed reader. Ideally it could capture the Blog's logo right then as well, or find a pre-existing Group/Room on FF to subscribe to. Currently we still have to cut&paste URL's, and upload avatar pics for the...
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- Alex Schleber
oh sorry, i actually meant post a new share in the Friendfeed feedback room...but i can tdo it if you want no probs
- Zee.
This is terrific - you can add any blog you want to that has an RSS feed by just searching for it.
- Amy
Child killer shot dead as crowd cheers in Yemen - http://arbroath.blogspot.com/2009...
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Does anyone think there wouldn't also be cheers in some major Western cities if a child killer was publicly executed? I mean sure some would protest, but I'm pretty sure some others would also cheer as well.
- Andrew Leyden
The lynch mobs would certainly cheer. Personally, I'd rather the killer spent as long as possible living a miserable existence servicing the society they harmed so they could eventually think about their actions. Prisons should be turned into sweatshop factories, making produce for the cost of materials to help those who need it most.
- alphaxion
what alphaxion said. He should be made to pay for his mistake with the remainder of his life. Watching a person get shot is a horrifying and scarring incident to the onlookers but for the person dying, it's all over in a sec.
- vijay
I suspect if someone raped and murdered an 11 year old, a lot of people would cheer in our countries too - I just find the risk of miscarriage of justice to just be too much to allow death penalty no matter what the offense is.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Mixed feelings about this one to be honest.
- Kevin Hatton
In other countries, this is usual practice
- Shevonne
+1 alphaxion
- Mike VanLare (slayerboy)
Cheering as someone dies is evil.
- Pat Rice
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