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DB, Lil LB's Dad
Looks like we're going to have to walk away from this new adoption situation. I was very angry earlier but now I'm just sad. The dishonesty of some people in this world is sickening and disgusting especially when the life of a child is at stake. I pray that the child is born healthy and somehow someway ends up in a good home. It just won't be ours.
I'm sorry things took a bad turn. I hope that you guys can get Lincoln a little sibling soon. - Anika
I'm so sorry. - Jennifer Dittrich
It's alright. I was already a bit uncomfortable with the speed at which we were having to rush to get things squared away to make this happen. Now that the birth mother has revealed her true colors it makes the decision to walk away a bit easier. I hate shady people. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
I hope your next adoption experience is better. - John (bird whisperer)
If nothing else this has forced us to get off our butts and get our stuff in order so that we're good to go when we're truly ready to start the next adoption. Our new home study will be complete by the end of this month. That will be a major hurdle jumped. And much faster than it took the last time. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Hang in there, DB. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
I'm sorry that it took such an awful turn but am glad that you were able to extricate your family from the situation. I hope that your next birth family is a lot more honest with you. - vicster: full-bodied
We've got our hands full with Linky right now. His little brother or sister will come along whenever they're supposed to be here. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
I'm sorry, DB. - Tamara J. B.
Oh no. :( - Stephen Mack from iPhone
:( - Jenny H. from Android
Stephen Mack
Apple is such an amazing company in so many ways. How come iTunes is so awful, and has been for so long? As they have migrated its functions off to the cloud, iTunes really has exactly one job for me now, to put music on my phone. At that, it completely fails. Here we see my music, stuck in "Other" and unable to be played. Jolly good show, iTunes.
Here we begin unsyncing all of my music, trying to reclaim the Other, and then resyncing. I've put six or seven hours into that so far, with no luck. - Stephen Mack
Oh good. I thought that was just happening to me. On one hand, I'm glad I never relied solely on iTunes to store my music, but now, out of thousands of songs only like 600 of them are playable on my iPods. - Anika
iTunes is a huge POS - Jeff (Team マクダジ )
I always assumed misuse of "other" was iOS's fault... - Andrew C (✔) from Android
How can you tell what is in the "other" section? I've noticed my other section has been growing as well. - Friar Will
I was just having this moment while I was trying to clear stuff out on my phone. At this point, they should have a far more robust management utility that is /separate/ from iTunes. There's no reason for the two to be married together once the cloud sync stuff came into play. (FWIW, on my phone most of the "other" was comprised of data bloat for a couple of applications, Flickr and Tumblr being the worst offenders.) - Jennifer Dittrich
Oof. There goes my plans for buying an iPhone if my Nexus 4 ever dies. I love my iPod nano, but I've never been able to easily sync my digital music with my phone, and I'd like to do that someday. Looks like Apple isn't helping that happen anymore. - Holly's favorite Anna
Andrew, you may be right that it's iOS's fault. Hard to separate out where the fault is, really. - Stephen Mack
There are third party music sync apps. Any of you use them? - Stephen Mack
Will, per the Apple support communities ( "Other" data is real data including your system files and cached content that you put on your device by using the built-in apps. It's just that as you use the phone, it will grow. This includes: Messages and attachments Contacts Reminders Safari bookmarks and cache Email messages and attachments Calendar entries Genius data Music catalog and cover art Operating system settings Game Center status - Stephen Mack
I haven't experienced issues like you have Stephen, but I have had a difficult time setting the sync just right. No matter how many times I uncheck sync movies, it took iTunes ages to realize I don't want movies on my iOS devices downloaded to my laptop. iTunes has usually been pretty good with my music, though. However, if it weren't for the fact that 90% of my music were ripped from CDs, I wouldn't sync with iTunes at all, since syncing iPhone with a computer is so '00s to me. >_> - Arlan K.
After iTunes Match, I don't think I've intentionally synced my device with iTunes since. $25 a month is so worth it. EDIT: crap, yes. $25 a YEAR. See, this is why I didn't do poker last night, my head was wonked up. - Jonathan Disher
You mean $25 a year, Jon. :) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Other is the data the apps build up. Under Settings > General > Usage you can see each app by total size and inside of each you can see how much is taken up by locally stored data. I delete and re-install Facebook, Twitter and Vine about once every 2 months to clear the cache. - Johnny from iPhone
$25 a YEAR? Hmmmm.... - Arlan K.
Johnny, that's a good tip. In my case, though, it's music that doesn't sync correctly and can't be reclaimed. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
itunes makes me crazypants. I had some songs that I could not get removed from my phone no matter what i did. what i discovered was that the itunes setting was set to show all store purchases and itunes match uploads, even if they had never been downloaded to the phone. so all those random freebies that i got from itunes over the years were always showing up on my phone. SO DUMB. ITUNES IS CRAZYPANTS. - holly #ravingfangirl
I recently found dozens of old CDs I had in the garage. I've sucked them into iTunes, and they they automatically get synced to Google Music. iTunes is just the CD ripper. Once they're on Google Music (or Spotify), you're covered. - Louis Gray
Sorry Louis. Google Music streaming doesn't work too well for me. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Yes, $25/year. Bad brain. - Jonathan Disher
Got much worse this evening -- almost all of the phone was locked out with "Other." There are 11 pages of people experiencing the same syncing issue that I had that led to this mess ( Now restoring the phone to factory settings and starting over. What a mess. - Stephen Mack
Do You Believe in Atheists? Distrust Is Central to Anti-Atheist Prejudice -
"Recent polls indicate that atheists are among the least liked people in areas with religious majorities (i.e., in most of the world). The sociofunctional approach to prejudice, combined with a cultural evolutionary theory of religion’s effects on cooperation, suggest that anti-atheist prejudice is particularly motivated by distrust. Consistent with this theoretical framework, a broad sample of American adults revealed that distrust characterized anti-atheist prejudice but not anti-gay prejudice (Study 1). In subsequent studies, distrust of atheists generalized even to participants from more liberal, secular populations. A description of a criminally untrustworthy individual was seen as comparably representative of atheists and rapists but not representative of Christians, Muslims, Jewish people, feminists, or homosexuals (Studies 2–4). In addition, results were consistent with the hypothesis that the relationship between belief in God and atheist distrust was fully mediated by the... more... - Eivind
Study 4 is interesting considering that many atheists are practicing secular humanism. Don't worry, love. I still trust you. ;) - Jenny H. from Android
That's good to hear, boo. And hopefully people will stop thinking we need supernatural surveillance to behave once natural surveillance reaches full coverage. :-P :/ :( - Eivind
It's the Theist's I worry about. As far as natural surveillance goes what if it's all been done before. Pascal's wagerist for me :) - Eric Logan
I'd be interested in comparing trust perceptions of atheists against trust perceptions of evangelicals. In my experience the antipathy expressed towards atheists is pretty much limited to those who express their disbelief aggressively in modes more commonly associated with evangelical communities. ETA: Unless the inclusion of feminists and homosexuals in this study was intended to net the same data? Both sub groups have historically had highly militant and confrontational wings. Hmm. - Soup in a TARDIS
The study focused on two sources of antipathy, Soup; distrust and disgust. "Atheist" in all studies was defined as "no belief in any god." It's interesting that you immediately thought of "atheist" as opposed to evangelical, though. If the majority of people in the study had done so, I suspect the "disgust" metric would have been more dominant. - Eivind from Android
That seems to be in keeping with other studies I've seen, and what I've witnessed personally (low grade antipathy, outright suspicion, friends shunning someone, people asking whether atheists should have mandatory background checks, etc.) - Jennifer Dittrich
Whaaa? Mandatory background checks for atheists? Why?! - Soup in a TARDIS
Their argument was that atheists are inherently shifty (which given prison statistics on religious preference, or lack thereof, isn't really supported well.) I just sort of stared at them until they petered out. Honestly, the shunning was harder to deal with because it involved people I'd considered friends up until that point. - Jennifer Dittrich
I think like a lot of prejudices, this sort of attitude lurks under the surface unless it's directly invoked. Many of the people I've heard say these things I would not have predicted before they decided to just wave that in public, and it made me wonder how that influenced their jobs and other interactions afterwards. - Jennifer Dittrich
That's very....strange. I can see getting annoyed with someone who needs to constantly tell you about their atheist beliefs at every opportunity (including instances that aren't actual opportunities but they're wedging the topic in anyhow), but questioning their ethics or morals? Because they don't believe in a god? How are those two things even related? We form our beliefs, norms,... more... - Soup in a TARDIS
Here's my personal experience: I honestly feel I've never experienced anything significant at all in terms of anti-atheist prejudice directed against me. (It helps that I live in an area where other atheists are not uncommon.) I've met plenty of racists, plenty of bigots, plenty of homophobes, plenty of anti-Semites. Sure, we do have some ways to go as a society in terms of how we treat... more... - Stephen Mack
I have met plenty of prejudice on a personal level (mostly from incomprehension or bafflement, never in the form of malice) traveling the world, Stephen, but nothing on a societal level in Norway, as the article predicts under the "Generalizability" headline: "Although we only collected data in North America, our theoretical framework and the present data allow us to make detailed... more... - Eivind
The world and belief systems in general are strange indeed. This today. ICYMI India’s water minister says atheists cause floods. - Eric Logan from FFHound!
When I was in high school I heard my dad say that atheists have no source of morals. A lot of people think that way, and those people scare me. If they're morals are based on what God thinks, can't they just repent after doing something wrong? (My dad's not like that anymore.) - Heather
Many of my best friends are gay, atheist, agnostic, and/or humanist. I must be doing this Christianity thing wrong. :^) - Friar Will
Yes, the /Bible believin'/ Christians are very disappointed in you :-P - Eivind from Android
Laura Norvig
Besides the green beauty that is the Borland (Enterprise Technology Center) grounds, I love that my freeway exit is now "Santa's Village". I love the trees we can see out all of the windows. However, my cube is still just a cube, and I face the computer with my back to the corridor, so I don't get to see the trees.
Santa's Village has to be the topic of my next #saturdayff - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I vaguely remember the actual Santa's Village. There were rides and you used to be able to see them from the highway. - Rodfather from Android
Ah I was 5 when it closed. I do remember going there. - Rodfather from Android
Yeah, it closed the year I came to Santa Cruz. But you could still see most of the stuff that stayed there for awhile. - Laura Norvig
Victor Ganata
Love in the Time of Ebola
Harry Potter and the Deathly Ebola - Stephen Mack
Ebola Gay: The Men, the Mission, the Atomic Bomb - SAM
Romeo and Ebola - Anika
Only $50 for ebola sailor. - Todd Hoff
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Ebola - Brent Schaus
A Midsummer Night's Ebola - Big Joe Silence
Ebola-ing for Columbine. - Betsy
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Ebola - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Waiting for Ebola. - Corinne L
Ebola and Old Lace. - Me
Bill & Ted's Ebola Adventures - Me
American Ebola - Me
Beverly Hills Ebola - Me
The Ebola Crowd - Me
Three Weddings and an Ebola Outbreak - Big Joe Silence
The Truth About Cats and Ebola - Big Joe Silence
Band - Ebola for Soup - Joe
The Super Ebola football game. - Joe
Ebola and flow of the tides. - Joe
2 white Ohio women sue over sperm from black donor -
CLEVELAND (AP) -- An Ohio woman and her partner have sued a Chicago-area sperm bank after she became pregnant with sperm donated by a black man instead of a white man as she'd intended....
Oh. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Stephen Mack
Poll: You drop a piece of candy on the ground. Do you: (A) Pick it up within five seconds and eat it, (B) Throw it away, or (C) Other
c: make an art piece with it - Sir Shuping is just sir
B, most of the time - Jennifer Dittrich
B. Always. - Anika
C: don't eat/drop candy - Meg VMeg
B. always - Amit Patel
depends on the candy - hard candy like the one pictured, if sufficiently hard and not too sticky, then A; melty chocolate will most likely be handled with B (but with infinite sadness). - Ken Gidley
Depends on the ground. And yeah, depends on the candy. When I was a kid, we didn't have the five second rule. Instead, we crossed ourselves (it was a Catholic country). All of us kids knew it was safe to eat dropped food if you crossed yourself. :-) - Betsy
My answer is similar to Betsy's. :-) - John (bird whisperer)
C, if it's like the candy above I rinse it off. There is no 5 second rule, grossness sticks, but hard candy can be rinsed. - Heather
I suspect Heather's right, but for Jolly Rancher? B. - Walt Crawford
Definitely A - Friar Will
Usually A unless it's a manky floor. A quick visual inspection and blow job normally determines if I have to resort to B. :D - Jenny H. from Android
^^^^ We still talking about candy? or have we switched to "Candy"? - Ken Gidley
Depends on the substrate, but I'd say 95% of the time, B. - Hookuh Tinypants
A. Unless it's sticky and picked up carpet and hair fibers. - Louis Gray
A. for linoleum, tile or hardwood and as long as it's hairfree. Also it depends on the type of candy. - NOT THE CRICKET
A - Janet from FFHound!
Andrew C (✔)
Windows 10 May Have Gotten Its Name Because of Lazy Coders -
Windows 10 May Have Gotten Its Name Because of Lazy Coders
"If you're not code literate, allow me to explain. An easy (and lazy, and bad) way to check what version of Windows a user is running is to just read in the first little bit of the name the operating system is using to identify itself. There are better ways to do it, but if that first bit reads "Windows 9" it means the operating system has to be either Windows 95 or Windows 98. Unless of course there's a Windows 9." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"It's a y2k sort of problem, where programmers either didn't think the Windows naming scheme could ever generate another "Windows 9x" version, or didn't want to bother future-proofing their code to control for it. And while it's just an unsubstantiated theory that this is why the name is Windows 10, the problem this coder brings up is verifiably a common shortcut. " - Andrew C (✔)
Here I thought they wanted to change the luck of every other version of windows sucking.. and renumber the whole damn thing so the even numbers are good now. - Me
Why not just name it Mystery Science Windows 3000. - Joe
I wondered if they were trying to mimic Apple, so that every future version of Windows would now be Windows 10. - John (bird whisperer)
They wanted to avoid Windows Nein (as per a joke in the comments). - Stephen Mack
But if you are not code illiterate and you have actually ever had to write any code that detects win9x, then you know that code example would never work, since Win95/98/ME version number actually begins with a 4, and not a 9. :P - April Russo
Vista is 6.0, 7 is 6.1, and 8 is 6.2 - Eric - It's My Thing
Spidra Webster
Haredim refuse to sit next to women on El Al flight, causing '11-hour nightmare' - Israel Jewish Scene, Ynetnews -
Haredim refuse to sit next to women on El Al flight, causing '11-hour nightmare' - Israel Jewish Scene, Ynetnews
"Passengers aboard an El Al flight from New York's JKF airport to Israel claim that hundreds of ultra-Orthodox passengers demanded that they trade places with them before takeoff, saying they cannot sit next to women. Follow Ynetnews on Facebook and Twitter "It was an 11-hour long nightmare," one of the passengers summed up her experience. Haredi crowd aisle after refusing to sit next to women on flight (Photo: Amit Ben Natan) On Wednesday morning, the eve of Rosh Hashanah, thousands of Israeli and Jewish passengers landed in Israel, including scores of ultra-Orthodox Jews who decided to celebrate the Jewish New Year in the Holy Land. However, things didn't go so smoothly on one El Al flight carrying a large group of haredim, as well as secular Jews, that departed from New York's JFK and landed in Israel at 5 am Wednesday. According to the passengers who were on the plane, their fellow ultra-Orthodox travelers refused to sit next to women prior to the takeoff, which not only delayed... more... - Spidra Webster from Bookmarklet
Funnest flight ever! - Stephen Mack
BBC News - Sense of smell 'may predict lifespan' -
BBC News - Sense of smell 'may predict lifespan'
"Measuring people's sense of smell in later life could help doctors predict how likely they are to be alive in five years' time, a PLOS One study suggests. A survey of 3,000 adults found 39% with the poorest sense of smell were dead within five years - compared to just 10% who identified odours correctly. Scientists say the loss of smell sense does not cause death directly, but may be an early warning sign. They say anyone with long-lasting changes should seek medical advice." - Me from Bookmarklet
Hmmm. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Since my husband can't smell, this proves that he is actually a vampire. - Anika
holly #ravingfangirl
at some point i should get a turntable so i can listen to all this vinyl i am buying. >.>
HIPSTER - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
RT @karenmcgrane: It’s decorative gourd season, motherfuckers.
RT @karenmcgrane: It’s decorative gourd season, motherfuckers.
Steampumpkin. - Stephen Mack
Yes please. - Steve C Team Marina
This makes me both happy and sad. - Hookuh Tinypants
^^ ditto x 100 - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
Does anyone else think this guy looks like the guy who plays House? - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Yvonne Renee
Ugh... Have to reschedule a hair appointment at the last minute because Luke has a terrible cold and my friend/sitter has a baby and is kind of a germaphobe. Bummer.
Bummer! :( - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
Monique Judge
RT @theroot: No one realized this #BostonHerald Obama comic is incredibly offensive?
RT @theroot: No one realized this #BostonHerald Obama comic is incredibly offensive?
*sigh*... perhaps you could find a double meaning in the vein of "going farther". But it just ain't worth it, IMHO. - MoTO: Team Marina
Wow. - Jessie
The cartoonist claims he had no idea? Geez. - Stephen Mack
I call bullshit - MoTO: Team Marina
Since ‘disrupt’ has gone out of fashion, what’s the new word for revolutionary technology?
"Paradigm-shifting" - Stephen Mack
"Immersive" - Stephen Mack
"Game-changing" - Stephen Mack
"Emergent" - Stephen Mack
"Ground-breaking" - Stephen Mack
"Innovative" - Stephen Mack
Victor Ganata
The 6 Most Terrifying Examples of 'Rule 34' - Cracked
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( I am sorry I clicked on that. - Stephen Mack
:( I'm sorry you clicked on that, too. But I couldn't not post this! - Victor Ganata
After I discovered the horrors of Edward Penishands, I never again doubted the veracity of Rule 34. - Hookuh Tinypants
Victor Ganata
The Atheist Disillusionment - Pharyngula
This post by P.Z. Meyers has helped me put together my thoughts about "New Atheism". If the movement is actively anti-social justice out of a misguided sense that only Western Civilization is rational and only straight white males can be logical, then it is exactly just as shitty as any fundamentalist extremist religion. - Victor Ganata
For all the major faults of mainstream organized religion and the atrocities done under the aegis of faith, they do at least address the idea of social justice. - Victor Ganata
"Too many atheists turn out to be just as shallow as the fervent faithful I rail against. Too many see atheism as another useless difference they can use to excuse discrimination against others they are already prejudiced against." - Victor Ganata
"I used to have this illusion that an atheist society would be more tolerant, that under it government and education would be secular, but the churches would still exist, if people wanted to attend them — a sort of Scandinavian ideal. But no, what I’m fast learning is that tolerance isn’t automatically a property of abandoning the false tribe of religion, but is more a reflection of the greater culture it is embedded in." - Victor Ganata
"Atheists can still hold a 'kill the wogs' mentality while babbling about the wonders of science; people who regard women as servile appliances for their gratification don’t seem to become suddenly enlightened once the scales of faith fall from their eyes." - Victor Ganata
To this I say "Duh!" - DB, Lil LB's Dad
For sure, to judge all atheists by Richard Dawkins and his ilk really is akin to judging all Christians by the Westboro Baptist Church or people who murder OBGYNs and judging all Muslims by the Taliban or ISIS, even as New Atheists like to point out that Dawkins and his ilk haven't shot or beheaded anyone. But New Atheism looks more and more like nothing but a secular defense of misogyny, white supremacy, and Western imperialism. - Victor Ganata
Heh, sorry, I was just being facetious. Atheism encompasses a broad array of people, and some are truly awful. I used to label myself agnostic (which sounded better to me than "weak atheist") until I had a long conversation with Eivind a couple of years ago, where he convinced me the label of atheist was a better match for my views. So I do use that label for myself -- but just as religious extremists don't speak for my religious friends, atheist extremists don't speak for me. I agree with this blog post. - Stephen Mack
could it be that in thinking that what you believe (or don't) innately makes you better than someone else is the first step toward, if not damnation, sinning? DO YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE? - MoTO: Team Marina
I identify as an atheist because I have no shred of faith in any religion. But I'm not very impressed by atheists who are driven by "furious rage at the lies and injustice and corruption of humanity by religion." It seems to me that intolerance and injustice is a human problem, which often cloaks itself in religion, but is not itself limited by or caused by religion. I'm no historian,... more... - Steele Lawman
Well put, Steve. - Stephen Mack
Yeah, I did get the impression that most of the atrocities of the 20th century were committed in the name of "logic" and "reason". I certainly think it's extremely naive to expect that people will stop being terrible to each other just because they no longer believe things that aren't "true". - Victor Ganata
(haven't read the article; liking for the discussion) - Betsy
I'm not an atheist because I think religion is bad; I'm an atheist because I don't feel like I can be anything else. - Steele Lawman
The word "atheism" isn't short hand for this "organized atheism," this "movement" in the anglosphere, to me. An atheist is just a person who lives her life as if there are no gods, as if there are no supernatural agents she needs to consider/placate/fear in course of the day. That's not much of a basis for an organization (and certainly not for a society). To me it's a tiny word, but it seems to be such a big word to so many others. - Eivind
Sure. There's atheism and then there's New Atheism (which P.Z. Meyers just abbreviates as atheism), and it seems that P.Z. Meyers and Richard Dawkins et al have been at odds about the movement for quite some time. So there's definitely some specific context underlying the post. - Victor Ganata
I think Meyers is just using it for shorthand and not being reductive in the same way that some people equate ISIS with all of Islam or the Christian right in the U.S. with all of Christianity. - Victor Ganata
Eivind, it seems by your definition plenty of theists are also atheists, living their life as if there is no god. A belief based definition, asserting god does not exist, makes more sense to me than a behavior based definition. - Todd Hoff
That said, I think an argument about essentialized definitions misses the point here. P.Z. Meyers *is* talking about a specific movement headed by specific people and while certainly I understand that other people might not like the co-opting of the term (and I think it's really important for atheists outside of the New Atheism movement to be vocal about their resistance to the co-opting of the term), it is what it is. - Victor Ganata
The thing is, the lived experience of a lot of theists (in my experience) aren't that driven by the shear fact of the god being real/supernatural vs. a convenient and familiar mental scaffolding to hold a framework of their moral ideals. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
To be clear: I despise the sexism, classism, racism, rudeness and disrepect exhibited by Dawkins and Hitchens and other leaders of New Atheism. They don't speak for me at all. - Stephen Mack
I'm a practical man, Todd. I am comfortable with that definition. I think many people live godless (atheos) lives with small bursts of trying to adhere to the scripture of their upbringing without ever consciously denying the existence of the god of their upbringing. Then they're mostly atheist to me :) - Eivind
When someone says "I'm a practical man" you know there's a lot more to the story :-) - Todd Hoff
Yay! After 12 years with the company (being the first employee after the directors) I'm finally getting a work phone. Mind you, when I say work phone I mean they're getting my personal number ported to their carrier on a cheap BYO plan. So my 2 year old battery fucked iPhone 5 is my new phone...
Everyone else in the company is getting new iPhone 6s... even the part time secretary. The existing non-fucked iPhone 5Ss are going to the director's grandchildren. I'm super grateful for the phone plan because it's $60 a month I don't have to spend but I can't say it doesn't sting just a little bit. - Johnny
Gah. :( Maybe time for a mysterious accident to happen to your phone? - Stephen Mack
The thing is, on a BYO plan, they can't get a new phone for me. The iPhone 5S are already promised to the grand kids... I know cause I was just handed one of them to set up. - Johnny
(Also, I have to pay for my phone to be unlocked from my carrier to accept work's carrier). - Johnny
Yvonne Renee
STOP! Shower time!
You can't wash this. - Stephen Mack
2 Armpits 2 Quit? - Big Joe Silence
Andrew C (✔)
In hindsight, we should have pitched FF to our friends as "beautiful and ad free".
We still can. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Also, I think FF and Ello are both behind for not having native phone apps. FF, well, it was designed slightly before the smartphone era and acquired by FB before smartphones became so dominant. Ello, ... Ello feels like a boutique product that doesn't fit anyone but its own designers that well. - Andrew C (✔)
And of course FF now has one problem that Ello doesn't. Both may be ad-free, but I think the point of people who tried/are trying to move from FB to Ello is that they are fleeing FB, and well, FF is owned by FB. - Andrew C (✔)
One of the features that would be a good sell but is broken is the Twitter integration. In a fit of pique, I took my Twitter account off. When I tried to re-add it, it didn't work. I just realized it would be great if I had favorites coming in because Twitter's own interface makes it difficult to search through favorites (which I use like bookmarking). - Spidra Webster
Perhaps with a big enough uptick in traffic we could prompt FB to rebrand FF as FB's answer to Ello. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
I think they would just shut it off if it got too busy. There is no hope that FB will revive FF. None. - Eric - It's My Thing
Coke still runs Diet Coke in addition to Coke Zero. (and also TAB in addition to Diet Coke... and Coke Zero.) Sometimes it pays to have multiple brands. Or see also Old Navy/Gap/Banana Republic. Or more relevant, FB and Instagram. - Andrew C (✔)
I can't believe we're still having a conversation about FF as an ongoing network maintained with new features. It's not going to happen! - Eric - It's My Thing
History has shown that nothing seems to be able to stop us. We've all been forgotten about, switched off, you name it. FF - still here! - Iain Baker
Listen, I love this place. You know that. But let's not fool ourselves. It's nice, but attempting to grow it won't change what has already happened and how we just keep on with the help on FB engineers in their spare time. Do I wish they could bring it back? Sure. But come on everyone. Let's be realistic. - Eric - It's My Thing
Not saying it's realistic. Just ping ponging off of the OP and Stephen's first comment. FF's state is well known and well established. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
We're the social media version of morse code - an unseen heartbeat. Yeah, we're archaic, but if we were ever silenced, we'd be missed. - Iain Baker
I think we'd miss us but I don't think anyone in the tech world would care. Just a small blurb on Mashable or some other news site when they finally pull the plug for good. That's it. Count on it. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
I remember trying to get people of FF and they just didn't get it. They were already on FB and/or Twitter and just didn't get real-time, pulling in RSS, and now those features are pined for on other platforms. It's a testament of the forward looking people on this project that it's still standing and working as intended for the most part. - Eric - It's My Thing
Yeah I had similar experiences. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
It just clicks for some folks. Others not so much. I came here based upon a post by Jason Toney on back in the day. It took a little while to get my bearings. I didn't really hit FF hardcore until I was out of work about a year later. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
My experience with Ello so far is that there isn't much user content, one of the few comments I did make either never got posted even though it seemed to, it's not actually beautiful or even pleasant to look at -- even the Tumblr and FF feeds are better -- just overall, they launched wide access way too early. - Andrew C (✔)
Agreed. For photo posting, it's gorgeous. It has nothing else, though. Except active development. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Ah, well, I rarely do anything with photos. Probably why I'm not on Instagram. - Andrew C (✔)
Same here with Ello. How is this the next gen of social? It doesn't even work yet. - Eric - It's My Thing
Ello already has spam. But so does FF so.. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Sarah G.
m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Happy Birthday, Iain Baker!
Happy birthday! - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
Happy birthday! - Anne Bouey
Happy Birthday! - Jennifer Dittrich
Happy birthday! - John (bird whisperer)
Happy birthday! - Corinne L
Happy birthday, Iain! - Big Joe Silence
Happy Birthday music hero! - Steve C Team Marina
Happy happy! - Meg VMeg
Happy birthday Iain! - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Happy Birthday, man. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Happy Birthday, Iain! - vicster: full-bodied
Happy happy! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Happy birthday! - Stephen Mack
Hope you've had a great day! - Signs Point to LB from Android
Happy birthday - Eric - It's My Thing
Happiest of birthdays! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Happy belated birthday! - Jenny H. from Android
Aw, thanks everyone! Had a wonderful day, party in the garden, with friends, family, food and wine until the wee small hours. All good x - Iain Baker
Stephen Mack
I have never referred to "corn" as "maize." #saturdayff -
I have never referred to "corn" as "maize." #saturdayff
I have never referred to "corn" as "maize." #saturdayff
I have never referred to "corn" as "maize." #saturdayff
"An unusual use for maize is to create a 'corn maze' (or 'maize maze') as a tourist attraction. The idea of a maize maze was introduced by the American Maze Company who created a maze in Pennsylvania in 1993. Traditional mazes are most commonly grown using yew hedges, but these take several years to mature. The rapid growth of a field of maize allows a maze to be laid out using GPS at... more... - Stephen Mack
But, as an ex Brit, have you ever used "corn" to refer to a non-maize grain? - Eivind from Android
Eivind: I saw that note in the Wiki article about "corn" referring to any cereal in UK English, and I have to say, no, that was news to me, I've never heard that. - Stephen Mack
I've encountered it many times, so I can attest to it happening :) (Makes sense to a Norwegian, as the Norwegian word "korn" just means grain.) - Eivind from Android
Had "grits" last week with breakfast for the first time! Well, it's American polenta, of all things. Any good recipes? - Adriano
Britons sign away first-born children for free Wi-Fi - Yahoo News -
Britons sign away first-born children for free Wi-Fi - Yahoo News
"Several Britons agreed to give up their eldest child in return for the use of free Wi-Fi, in an experiment to highlight the dangers of public Internet, published on Monday. Londoners were asked to agree to terms and conditions as they logged on to use free Wi-Fi in a cafe in a busy financial district and at a site close to the houses of parliament. The terms included a "Herod clause", under which the Wi-Fi was provided only if "the recipient agreed to assign their first born child to us for the duration of eternity". In the short period the terms and conditions were live, six people signed up." - rönin from Bookmarklet
Seems like a fair trade to me. - Stephen Mack
A bit awkward at family gatherings, though. "Where's Timmy?" "Oh, I brought the free Wi-Fi instead. It's contractual." - Jennifer Dittrich from FFHound!
was it "good" WiFi? Fast Netflix download.... #mightbeworthit #looktimmywegotfrozenn - WarLord
If it's more stable than my home internet, my first born would fully understand. - April Russo
Stephen Mack
Tomatillos prepped for roasting -
Tomatillos prepped for roasting
I faved that one of Jenn's a loooong time ago. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
FF is feeling the heat from Ello. - Stephan #TeamMarina
Of course, the irony being that I was debating whether to open one of the jars of salsa these tomatillos made yesterday :D - Jennifer Dittrich
yeah, flickr and friendfeed are in different time zones, it seems. - Laura Norvig
#pandemic is a game of futility. We've barely taken one round of turns and we're already having a crisis.
#pandemic is a game of futility. We've barely taken one round of turns and we're already having a crisis.
I love this game. - Stephen Mack
We have this game, but *holds head in shame* haven't played it yet. Maybe one for when Jennifer comes to visit? ;-) - Marina's Godmother :-)
*gasp* start on easy, lest you wish to throw the game out the window. - Miriella from Android
Helen, YES! Pandemic is one of my absolute favorites, even if we don't save the human race :D - Jennifer Dittrich
Yay! You can show us how to play it. Sure we've got a few hidden away that you've not come across yet ;-) - Marina's Godmother :-)
I'm a killer in that game. Virus wins every time. - Eric - It's My Thing
Today it was my job to draw all the outbreak cards. Awful. And it looked like death and destruction from like, the second turn. And then you get some false hope, thinking you might have a chance, and then the next turn, it all blows up in your face. - Miriella from Android
Yvonne Renee
I feel awful today. Just want to take Advil, curl up, and sleep. =(
*hugs* I'm sorry -- exhaustion? - Stephen Mack
Lady problems - Yvonne Renee from FFHound!
Ugh. Sorry, doll. Hope you are able to get some rest today. - Corinne L
thanks... me, too - Yvonne Renee
Oh no :( I really hope you feel better soon, love. - Tamara J. B.
I did OK today! Surprisingly. =) Just had to keep moving. Still moving. - Yvonne Renee from FFHound!
Hooray! - Corinne L
Meg VMeg
Do you guys ever daydream that one day FriendFeed will get emancipated from Facebook, in, like, a "no hard feelings" kind of a way, and then the whole world will realize how great it is, and they'll all sign up, and then we'll be, like, the rock star elders of FriendFeed, and everyone will love and worship us?
Everything up to "and then the whole world" sounded pretty good. - Steven Perez from Android
I wish FF would get minor feature updates, at least. New Twitter API (?), Vine and Instagram video integration, HTTPS for Youtube, a bookmarklet that can handle whatever weird thing Tumblr does for photo gallery pages. - Andrew C (✔)
Yes. All the time. Although only if it stays sort of the same, or I get some kind of old-skool privileges like free lifetime ad-free membership. - laura x
Nope, for two reasons. One, "ad-free" would not be in the story, not unless it was a fee operation (you know, The Well is still around...). Two, I don't think we could have the sometimes-frank, lively, open, effective, non-trollish discussions we do if there were 100 million people on FriendFeed. (Take, for example, some of the librarian groups on FB. Please.) - Walt Crawford
as long as I'm dreaming up features, I'd like to have newlines in comments (I realize this can be abused), newlines preserved from imported content like Twitter, and some amount of optional markup, or at least spoilers markup. - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew, new lines are preserved when posted - ffhound app displays then appropriately (well, android app, not sure about ios version anymore). - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Meg, to be honest - yes. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Kind of like how Bill and Ted and the Wyld Stallyns band is so revered in the future. - Joe
I have daydreams of hiring Jimminy and setting up FF2 when/if FB ever gives up on this place. But there's no viable business model. The closest would be donations. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Stephen, how much would it cost? - Meg VMeg
Bandwidth and hosting is likely costing FB at least $5k a month. A part-time sysadmin at least that as well. Any development costs would be double or triple that just for maintenance and minor features. If we can't raise $100k a year it's not worth even considering. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Huh. What if we sold ads that only showed up if people weren't logged in? And never fixed/added any of the stuff Andrew wants (sorry Andrew)? And got Blake to host it (sorry Blake) - Meg VMeg
I would pay for FF. - laura x from iPhone
I would pay for FF. - Heather Piwowar from iPhone
Yep, me too. I was thinking of how Metafilter is partly pay-what-you-will now, in addition to ads for non-members and for members who choose not to turn them off. - Meg VMeg
What if FB just relaunched FF with a new name and a graphical refresh? Like, "Hey", with a condensed Helvetica logo, all in black and white? #takethatEllo - Andrew C (✔)
Stephen, I dream of hiring Jimminy too. Maybe he could help add functionality to a Buddypress site? - Mary B: #TeamMonique
The guy developing hey just followed me on ello. Is hey a thing? - Joe
Victor Ganata
Oh God. Caffeine is having the exact opposite of the intended effect. Now what am I gonna do?
Damn. Time to taper off coffee, reset, then build again? - Stephen Mack
I once saw in cartoons how hiking your eyelids up with toothpicks can work.... - Spidra Webster
It's National Coffee Day. Perhaps coffee itself is taking a holiday. - Spidra Webster
Maybe you need to sleep more, Victor. - Andrew C (✔) from Android
LOL, yeah, probably. - Victor Ganata
Call it a day. Try again tomorrow. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
There comes a point where caffeine will not work any more and you just need to get some sleep. So, have a cup of coffee and go take a 20 minute nap. You'll wake up just as that cup of coffee will be ready to kick in, and it will work better. - April Russo
April knows - MoTO: Team Marina from Android
diminishing returns demands a detox on some scale to re-acquire efficacy. or something. - Big Joe Silence
water. When caffiene stops working, drink water. I find carboated water extra helpful/ - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Make a deposit at the sleep bank so you can keep hitting dat coffee ATM. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
LOL I love how we're giving lifestyle/health advice to a doctor. - Spidra Webster
He's constantly telling us how sleep-deprived he is, so... - Andrew C (✔)
Clearly time for an intervention. - Spidra Webster
You know what most interventions are sorely missing? Coffee breaks. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Andrew C (✔)
You get one. It's not "Coffees Day". MT @echaudaily: So I've been told it's International Coffee Day. How many cups am I allowed today then?
Coffee is indivisible, it flows in and around us unceasingly -- giving to all ye who are thirsty. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
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