very nice to hear the news from Forrester...you keep raising the bar on us, Jeremiah!
- Zena Weist
Thank you for what you have contributed so far, I'm sure there is more to come. I look forward to watching and reading your next chapter! Good luck!
- David Cole
So I saw. It was your decision, then, to move on? What's next for the big J?
- Ari Herzog
we don't even know what you are up to next but anxiously await the news because we know it will be good for all
- daniela barbosa
onwards and upwards. work out a gig that means you can spend more time at home, and less time washing your hands with steriliser!
- James
Good luck to you! And from a selfish point of view I hope your new gig allows for your insights to continue being published. I know I'm not the only one who's learned a lot from your writings.
- Matsis
Everyone will be waiting to hear what the next gig is and all will be following as usual. Your shoes will be hard to fill at Forrester but I know that they know they had quite a guy and will do what needs to be done. Best of Luck to a real professional social media guy!
- courtney benson
looking forward to your next move - Best of luck!
- Bill Sanders
Wishing you the best, Jeremiah! You've made a major contribution to the social media space. It will be exciting to see what you're up to next.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Best of luck Jeremiah! I hope we will continue to benefit from your insights in your next venture.
- Kaan Bingol
Very sad, how young. Ferris Bueller is our most quoted movie.
- Zena Weist
I used the gummy bears line at the end of Ferris Bueller's Day Off to hit on my wife the night we might. Think party, big bowls of gummy bears, three girls and me. Two girls thought I was a freak. One didn't. Guess which one I married? :)
- LionelatDell
Zee: Seth Godin is a great guy, great author, great speaker, very well known, etc. But no way is he the top social media blogger.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed. Like Godin's insight but he isnt regular enough. Also really like Jeremiah!
- Richard Zeidel
I subscribe to Seth's blog and have yet to figure out why there is such a fuss about him. Chris seems to put more effort into his posts and write things of significance.
- Chris Luckhardt
If you turn off comments (engagement) and blog about engagement (with comments off) then you get lots of linketylinks (Google love) in. Helps with those stats :)
- Laurel Papworth
@virante agree with you. I think Seth is more intellectual from Brogan and he is not social media blogger. And I don't say that Brogan isn't great! In fact, he is!
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
Love your post. I stopped following Seth a while ago for the same reason. He does not participate in the conversation. He writes posts high above from the mountain of Social Media Gods (SMG).
- John Flynn
The # of people he follows and learns from is an indicator as to his view of his role in the conversation...I mean monologue,
- Kevin Murray
In fact, thinking about it, it is hard to pick between Brogan and Owyang. I should have named both.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed. Great stuff, but Seth's not interested in conversation. Since that's the case, how can he possibly rate high in the social media space?
- Leo Bottary
I like the perspective Seth brings to Social Media, but I agree that he's not participating as much as others. How are we defining "top"?
- Joel Zehring
I think the behaviors of many people claiming to be the "best" of something will be monitored more closely now that FF is around ... I watch the number of people "these bloggers" subscribe to and watch for their participation ...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
methinks that Seth is not blogging about Social Media, but about marketing.
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
That list doesn't seem particularly focused. Bunch of great sites there that don't seem SM to me. I can't believe they didn't run them past me first. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Joel: the blog that made this list is using popularity ranking algorithms. Judging people by popularity will take you down a bad path.
- Robert Scoble
Seth is like God. He disappears for a long time then pops up with the old miracle. He's a good helicopter view of what's going on whilst people like Scobles and Chris Brogran are the day to day practioneers. You need both.
- Ross McMinn
Definitely Brogan is much better. I think Godin is miscategorized here. That said he's not conversing much in any space, just thinking out loud, which is great, but not so much social.
- Bailey McCann
I think we need universal portable influence metric - something peer mediated - micro celebrities need community validation.
- Richard Zeidel
Zee would be in the conversation. At least if I were having the conversation.
- Matthew DeVries
I don't even know Chris Brogan - maybe I should..
- Arnaldo M Pereira
I like it that Seth doesn't participate in everything. It makes it easier to follow him. Has anyone tried to email him or connect through his "Tribes" projects?
- Joel Zehring
what apostolos said. seth is marketing, not social media.
- James
Joel, that's like saying Chuck Nevitt is the best basketball player, because he's so easy to follow, cause most of the time he's on the bench, and the 3 minutes a season he got to play, he moved very slowly.
- Matthew DeVries
I'd say Amber Mac would be up there, but I guess she's more like the little girl who gets every freakin new toy on the planet the day it comes out, tells everyone it's a great toy, then tosses it aside, and goes back to playing with movable type.
- Matthew DeVries
Good guy, but last I checked Seth doesn't even tweet!
- Ryan Miller
from Nambu
Ryan: we were on a radio show together and he told me he doesn't Tweet. I tried to get him on friendfeed and he didn't have any part of that.
- Robert Scoble
Seth is tops in several areas....just not social media; not even close..I'm sure he would agree
- Daniel Kenney
Seth is definitely a top blogger..but because social media is about conversation, then you're right...others have a right to that honor.
- Bill Reichart
Seth is a snake oil salesman, but Chris Brogan sees him as a role model. I've predicted that Chris will be the first to Tweet from the Lincoln bedroom in the White House.
- paul mooney
Maybe they should call him the top social media spammer. He's broadcast-only. Woot for Chris Brogan though.
- Dave Saunders
Seth Godin uses email primarily to respond to people - he doesnt believe in the other media and he has explained that in some of his interviews. Chris Brogan on the other hand uses social media channels extensively and in my opinion should rank higher as a social media exponent.
- Mahesh Patwardhan
blogger or not.. moot question... is seth a good "social network" or "web2.0" (as much as i dislike that term!!!) media personality... *no* he's hardly a participant - he's more a "dictactor" - one way communication (mostly)... still worth reading i guess if you're into that sort of marketing guffy stuff (i'm only into technical stuff :) ...
- simran
I like Chris Brogan and Perry Belcher too!
- Vicki Z Lauter
I agree that Seth, smart as he is, is not representative of social media blogging. Having said that, what makes us so sure Chris Brogan, and I love Chris, Or Jeremiah, who I also love, are more engaged than Susie from Detroit? Because their numbers are higher hence the stats ranking. Why are their numbers higher? Because they're sort of viral. I often wonder how people become popular....
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- Sheryl
Chris Brogan I know about and I follow on Twitter and FF, I just Googled Seth Godin, wasn't sure who he was....
- Mike Nencetti
I don't feel like I should weigh in or anything, but I wanted you to know I'm listening and I'm here. I really love what Seth does. I read him religiously. He's NOT a social media blogger. He writes about marketing. That said, he writes about the part of social media that matters to me: how humans can be more human. So, to me, he's still #1, because he's writing about humans, and that's...
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- Chris Brogan
see what I was tolding ya? 1) Seth is not a social media blogger 2) both Chris and Seth are the best on what they do ;-)
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
For the record, Wolverine is the best at what he does. I'm just a working schlub.
- Chris Brogan
I like and respect what both Chris and Seth have to say tremendously. Not sure I care that much about who is the "top" blogger or whatever because either way I'm gonna keep reading their stuff and learning.
- Miguel Rodriguez
I do appreciate that Chris is present here (hi Chris!) and feel that his participation in "the discussion" adds another dimension to his insights. I wonder sometimes why Seth limits his interaction. When he's on camera being interviewed, such as by @loic most recently, he seems quite comfortable.. why that comfort doesn't extend to places like FF and twitter I am still scratching my head over.
- Miguel Rodriguez
Seth reminds me of Yoda, Chris reminds me of Obiwan. First one's cool, simple, philosophical, and ass-kicking. Second one's down to earth, practical, trained in highly useful Jedi stabs for day to day fights. Follow both, learn from both.
- waraney rawung
How would you classify Gary Vaynerchuck in the Marketing/Social Media environments?
- Owen Greaves
I had an interesting connection w/ Seth. Back when I was doing Biznik Live interviews, Seth's answer was to ask about our listener numbers. ("10k gets my attention"...Understandable from a guy who is #5 in Google out of 3 billion hits for "blog") However, when I sent him a video of Bizniks discussing Tribes, he liked that & agreed to an interview. It was an experimental brady-bunch style video interview on the importance of Tribes in business. Edited version: http://tinyurl.com/r9f9qz
- Leif Hansen
@ChrisBrogan I bet being compared to ObiWan just made your day ;) I think I'm probably more like Luke -whiny guy with father-figure issues who gradually grows into his vocation through the grace/luck of the force and of friends and some serious hard knocks with his own dark side. Though I've got plenty of Solo juice flowing through my veins as well :)
- Leif Hansen
I agree with Chris, but Chris and Jeremiah are still up there IMO, especially when it comes to Social Media specifically.
- Jesse Stay
Apart from the fact Chris Brogan is hardly even here lol
- Rob Sellen :o)
That's my point...shouldn't he be on the list?
- Owen Greaves
But seriously, oranges are so much better than apples. Come on guys...
- Leif Hansen
We know Scoble doesn't like lists. He really doesn't like those where it's easy to find holes in the lists. If this were written as "200 Social Media Blogs" with stats, and without rankings, it'd be easier. I was just surprised to see I was included at all.
- Louis Gray
But Louis, You are a legend here :)
- Owen Greaves
Great point about Godin not participating. In my niche there are some "experts" who have huge following numbers, but follow very few themselves. If you don't interact with your followers are you really participating in the conversation?
- Richard Byrne
Godin doesn't need to participate... he has sneezers. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Rob Sellen - Yeah, I'm not really deep into FriendFeed. I use it, and try to stay on top, and I get that lots of people say it's a big next stage. This is where Seth and I agree and are somewhat alike: we both believe you don't have to be present at EVERY conversation at every touchpoint. He picks his places; I pick mine. I just find the velocity of the social web to be more my speed. He likes email. No foul.
- Chris Brogan
Nothing wrong with that... ;o) .. just thought it odd for someone to say somone is the top social media blogger and not be in the social media sites itself... after all, that's exactly what scoble has said in the title here ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Why Mike, do you think that? what is it that Chris does that's so different to anyone else?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Not a chance. And Seth doesn't make it as top marketing blogger either.
- AJ Kohn
@Rob - oh, I'm in tons of social media sites. I just don't spend all 14 of my working hours in each one. I don't use Utterli, Plurk, Jaiku, Hyves, Orkut, Digg, Sphinn, and 300 other folks either.
- Chris Brogan
like scoble you mean? or was that 7 hours lol? I never said you weren't in any, just that scoble posted that here... and you are not here as much, nor is seth.. so scoble to me was just replacing one for another, if that makes any sense? :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
Woot woot "Seth Godin is the top social media blogger?" - nawwwwww.. he's the world's biggest liar.. hey after all he did write "all marketers are liars" !! He connectes with people because of his views and he also disconnects to people b'coz of that too.. As for interaction and collobrative particiaption.. hes got his nose still stuck n da air.. yeah Chris wins hands down !
- Peter Dawson
One thing I will say about Seth, ha can say a lot in few words... other times he says things that are a bit broad... but if it makes you think, that is the point. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
So Scoble chose FriendFeed. I've chosen Twitter. He also really loved the hell out of Facebook and used it up. I didn't. Which tools you use doesn't make you a better or worse social media person. How you get the job done counts the most to me.
- Chris Brogan
I agree... just thought it odd in the context of friendfeed you know. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Agree Chris. Darth Maul's double-edged sabre is as useful as Yoda's tiny one. I'm a beginner at social media, and trying to keep in touch with what's new and what's useful. You, Scoble, Seth and many others have been very helpful for a rookie like me.
- waraney rawung
What is a social media blogger, and why don't I get on this list? I've been doing this longer and better than any of you guys. Geez Louise what's a guy gotta do to get a little recognition.
- Dave Winer
Which reminds me, a lot of early adopters in Indonesia are using FriendFeed, but they're not really into discussions in FF. On the contrary, geeks in Indonesia love and are very active in Twitter and Plurk (sometimes behaving differently in each site), with Facebook as their personal online central nerve.
- waraney rawung
@DaveWiner - here here. You're who *I* read, anyhow. : )
- Chris Brogan
shouldn't that be "hear hear" sorry... lol. that's coming from a deaf bloke! ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Rob - Beats me... what do I know? : )
- Chris Brogan
I wouldn't even call Seth a top marketing blogger, jeez
- Sally Church
lol... I see that alot, and wonder if it should really be hear hear... makes more sense that would. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think it probably is. Like "hear hear" me?
- Chris Brogan
yeah, what I was thinking...even if I can't "hear hear"" lol... . ah well. we learn sommat new everyday...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Gotta run, Rob. Thanks for the chat hidden in Robert's rant. : )
- Chris Brogan
lol.. welcome mate.... hang on.. does Robert NOT rant? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
The 'what tools you use' debate is interesting. While I agree that, as long as you get the job done, the tools don't matter, there's also the ability to understand new paradigms. It's difficult to talk about and grok something without really immersing yourself in it. I didn't get blogging until I really did it. Ditto Twitter. Certainly FriendFeed. They *are* different ... meaningful...
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- AJ Kohn
I really like the comment on social media being about connection vs. the technology that allows it to take place. That is one reason I enjoy friendfeed so much more than twitter & even facebook. Much easier to connect and join conversations with people. I find myself looking at stats of who I am listening to much less in here than twitter. The result, better conversations, more...
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- Kevin Murray
I think Seth is great at what he does, I'm just not sure "Social Media Blogger" is the right description. Perhaps evidence that that's not his focus is that a conversation of this magnitude can go on without his commenting/participating. For anyone interested, here's a post from my blog about something recent I have disagreed with Godin about: http://tinyurl.com/po62js
- Brian Broveleit
thats ok Morten..as long as it's not while sat in the corner on his own ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
lol - what's so impressive about @chrisbrogan is that he responds - or at least gives the impression that he does. He works like a maniac. And he _gets_ what _it_ is. This makes his posts small gems of insights, even the less revolutionary ones.
- Morten Blaabjerg
lol "gives the impression that he does" - what does that even mean morten?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Agreed that Chis walks the talk and puts out great stuff.
- John Blossom
Seth Godin is practical and sees through the hype - something that most social media commentators are guilty of.
- BLOGBloke
Seth may be an expert in his own realm. Social media is certainly not it, but I have heard Seth make some valuable points about how to not use social media. Obviously Chris is doing something right, as evidenced by showing up to speak him mind, and pay Seth some respect. You gotta respect guys like Chris, Robert, Dave, and Louis (who are the ones on the tip of my tongue right now) -...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Ditto Robert! What is it with the "online marketing copywriters" all wanting to act like they're the top social media bloggers now? Oh... that's right... social media is the hip thing! Thus they flock to it. I respect Seth for particular forms of copy writing, but lots of better social media bloggers... like Chris Brogan, like Leslie Poston, like you, and others.
- Arleen Boyd
Amen x heaps! Seth is a genius... but certainly doesn't spring to mind in the context of "top" in social media. Chris is for sure in my top 5!!
- Mari Smith
Chris Brogan is the best example of what bloggers should try to achieve, IMO. Like any great writer, his stuff is worth reading even if you are not close tot he subject of a particular post. That means a lot.
- randulo
Agreed. Seth stuff is good, but he does he even get social media?
- Warren Whitlock
@glemak There are limits to one's attention span when you've got a lot around your ears (like Chris has) but it means a lot that you give the impression that you're listening and responding, even though you may not always be on your high marks. Noone can be. It's only human. But appearances still matter and are greatly appreciated. Chris is good at that too.
- Morten Blaabjerg
Thanks to those who mentioned me. Scoble is for sure one I looked up to and still do.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Jeremiah isnt the best at what he does - he's just the only one who does it! ;) - let's not be exclusionary - thank you to all the top minds for sharing.
- Richard Zeidel
I think Chris Brogan is THE man. Many of the social media experts are now engaging only with those who are also 'experts' and not with the new comers or followers. Brogan, on the other hand, very rarely to missed a conversation. As for marketing bloggers, I still stand behind Kyle Lacy as the best one.
- Gambit Fauri
Seth "gets" social media tools but he is not the top participant--where Chris is. I am dubious, however, of claims that Seth is not a conversationalist. Have you ever sent him an email? He personally takes time to respond to every email thoughtfully and quickly, which is more than I can say for a number of social media stars (or even myself).
- Jeremy Floyd
Lately I have been reading more of Chris has to say, that said does it really matter who is the top?
- Chet Woodside
SCOBLEIZER - Do you grant variance from the "No deleting your comments and altering the thread mother fuckers" rule if you're doing it simply to kill a thread from your "My Discussions" filter so it stops popping like popcorn on your notifier?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: that is an interesting problem. I wish clicking "hide" were good enough for that.
- Robert Scoble
Godin doesn't allow 2-way participation, thus negating the openness principle of social media (no replies on his blog, not on twitter). He's just repurposed the blog to act as a writing platform for material for his books. He's very tactic based and without a huge depth of substance, but that's what people like; though it's not necessarily good for them.
- Aaron Shields
as a technologist, focused on emerging media yet appreciating the fine art of marketing - i learn little from seth (noise) and tons from chris (signal) - that's my experience of course, your mileage may vary ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Our flying Dutchman makes the Reich Museum look like a tourist trap. Should be on the top 5 things to do when you are in Amsterdam. Very bright, clear thinker. If you ever get fired for being "too open with your ideas" Chris you can work for me!
- Chad Harris
Chris Brogan is an active interlocutor in ways Godin isn't. Still, who is #1 isn't as important as who is providing content that you need. I respect Godin. Have read lot of his books. But still, Brogan is my fav.
- Prof. Pamela Hood
Seth is a pure-play Social Media thought leader. Chris participates in the SM stream so he gets my respect for walking the walk and talking the talk.
- Michael McDermott
I'll give props to Chris Brogan in this so-called "social media" space, insightful, valuable, interesting. And I will give a lifetime achievement award to Dave Winer, I was reading Scripting News BEFORE the word "blog" was coined by EvHead and MegNut. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Winer "teach" you how to blog Scoble? One thing that continues to exist that I wish would go away, but probably never will is this whole "leaderboard" mentality... is there some contest? <sigh>
- .LAG liked that
I agree with Scoble, Chris is here in the trenches and impressively dedicated.
- anthonycospito
Methinks Brogan is sending his cousins over here. :-)
- BLOGBloke
In my view the better a Blogger is the more comments they will receive. Seth Godin does not even have comments enabled on his blog.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Shows how "social" he is at the very least. I don't completely agree that a blogger needs to receive comments to be "better" - but you can't really be a "social" media blogger without being "social".
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
funny thing is she's not the only one following me but also P. Diddy (http://friendfeed.com/iamdiddy) and yet I never received email notifications that they're subscribing to me even though I do get notified when non-famous people subscribing to me.
- imabonehead
I wonder if someone's been adding subscribers for them via directly to the database.
- imabonehead
I ain't gonna follow back, girl. actually I already did
- Brian Hendrickson
Huh... apparently she's subscribed to me and I didn't realize it. My email notifications have been very sporadic lately.
- Michael McKean
I subscribed to her a long time ago but she mainly does twitters
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Looks like a twitter dumpstation, pass.
- Mo Kargas
i'm pretty sure Friendfeed doesn't send out all 35000 emails you know...in fact i guarantee it. She definitely would have got more than 386 subscribers if it did.
- Zee.
...hell, I'll add P-Diddy too...they all go on my Celebrity list, which i check, like, once in a blue moon, because they hardly ever say or sharing anything interesting... though i did hear that Oprah gave away KFC chicken on Twitter yesterday... .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
someone tell me just who is Kim Kardashian? we have plenty of women that look like that in FL!
- shayne catrett
all flash no substance...I see nothing meaningful in her stream either
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Sorry, I don't subscribe to people that have no likes or comments.
- April Russo (app103)
How does anyone go about acquiring 35,734 subscriptions? Sounds like a job for a spider harvesting account names and mechanically adding them to the roster (I am not among them, nor do I wish to be). FF allows that by default?
- ianf ⌘
the new functionality that allows you to subscribe to your Twitter subscriptions, ianf.
- Alejandro
+1 David. Splitting hairs between "not on the market" and "accepting offers".
- Daniel J. Pritchett
You know you've made it when you're touting your wares on "The View"...ugh.
- Blake Sabatinelli
Good companies make money, Great companies change the future. Twitter has everything to become one of the biggest thing since Google if only they keep their eggs in their own basket.
- sushaantu
It's a popular show watched largely by women. Maybe Biz wants more of that demographic.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
All good companies that are for sale tout the "we are not for sale" line. It is standard strategy to signal that if you want to buy, you'd better come with a serious offer.
- Nick Wade
What was Zuck saying before MSFT made an investment in Facebook?
- David Damore
@Daniel J. Pritchett: Understandable, but it's still a terrible show that plays to a demo that isn't particularly big on any kind of tech, especially emerging tech
- Blake Sabatinelli
Thanks so much for sharing this link with everyone, Mike!
- Douglas Karr
Douglas, it was a good post. I agree with the majority of it. The great thing about social media is there is no right or wrong way to use it. The objective is to achieve one common goal, communication. It's how we go about this is the real question.
- Mike Fruchter
"I don't want to sleep on the floor anymore. I want a proper bed and live where the air does not smell of poo. I have seen what it is like in America. Here, there is garbage everywhere, people get angry, swear and shout. I have realised how bad life is here. I just want to get out."
- Karen Padham Taylor
from Bookmarklet
"Meanwhile, both Rubina and Azharuddin continue to wear their Oscar clothes and pine for life in America"
- Karen Padham Taylor
God, there's something wrong with this. These kids are traumatized. They were trotted out to LA as showpieces and now they can't live a normal life anymore. Is the production company and the Mumbai housing authority going to give them a flat, as promised? "I cannot believe these kids have just been left like this after being taken to Hollywood. It is bound to affect them psychologically," said social worker Sanjay Bhatia, who works in the slum.
- Christopher Chung
So, not taking them to the Oscars was a better idea? Uprooting them from their only known social construct and plopping them in front of Brad & Angie's house?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Much better to see what is possible and strive for it in anguish, rather than be satisfied with the status quo. Coming from a lower middle-class background in India, I have bought old Fortune magazines from wastepaper shops for two rupees to read up on what was happening. Yes, it made my then condition seem like hell, but heck I would not be here now if I had not known what I wanted.
- Mahesh CR
If you never realize there is something better out there for you, why would you climb out of the crap-hole you're in?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
That's really sad... I have been living under a rock and don't know much about the movie but didn't they make any money off of it since it was so successful??
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Lindsay, seriously, that's the part I don't understand. I would have thought they'd have made at least enough money for a "proper bed" and a place to put it, at least for a while...
- Jason Wehmhoener
Honestly, it sounds like $1K would make a big difference in their lives... they didn't even make that much??
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Doesn't most of the responsibility fall on the people behind Slumdog? They had to make a few extra dollars that they can pay these kids. Why aren't they doing it?!?
- grant fox
I thought I read somewhere that the producers of this movie were buying houses for the families of all these kids. I need to try to find that story.
- Trish R
Perhaps this is a stretch, but how is this any different than any of the kids throughout the world who get used by large companies to manufacture products that we use in the West? Danny Boyle and co. are eating very well right now.
- Cee Bee
If they're child actors, the money would've been paid to their parents. No matter how much the children made, the production company has no control over how the parents opted to spend it.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
but do the same rules apply in India as they do here? from what I understand it would take a very small amount of $$ to make their lives better. The child actors in Slumdog were a significant part of the movie, and one could argue that they were the better actors as well (besides Freida Pinto, but I digress...).
- grant fox
Sounds to me like the Indian government said they'd find houses for them and then backed out of it. Based on the photograph of the youngest boy's father hitting him, I'd guess his parents are pocketing the money and the officials are looking the other way.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Mahesh: very powerful statement. This whole story makes me sad, partly because of how spoiled we are as Americans.
- Robert Scoble
From the article: His father is also saying he wants more money for his son's film role. In addition to school, the kids were paid for their work and have trust funds set up for when they turn 18.
- Nine
At least they are in school. I hope they do something useful with their trust funds.
- Jason Wehmhoener
How sad. But then again, so many kids never have any opportunities.
- Andrew Pass
are we still pretending that the lives of actors are more important than those of "real pepole" ... "free" willy all over again?
- simran
from twhirl
@Roberto - Finally, a plausible game plan to monetize friendfeed.com/scobleizer
- Mitch
I'm not looking for a place that's *free* of Scoble, just less enslaved.
- Dave Winer
Dave, just unfollow and your chains will be free.
- Michael Krigsman
Yep. Signed for a 30%markup on unsigned ones. :). Not quite an iFart, but close.
- Roberto Bonini
Michael, don't talk to me like I'm an idiot -- I don't like it when people do that.
- Dave Winer
+1 Dave! I'm not even subscribed to you Sir, but I have so much respect for you!
- directeur
Dave, apologies if it came off that way--definitely not my intention.
- Michael Krigsman
Cooooooool. Anyway -- I have unfollowed Scoble. On Twitter that pretty much works, but here -- This is ScobleFeed, The First Church of Scoble is not an overstatement.
- Dave Winer
It actually makes alot of sense what you are saying dave. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I said that in regards to your church of scoble post dave. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Dave: you crack me up. I remember when people talked that way about you and you didn't like it.
- Robert Scoble
So much labia to gluteal activity now days. Just gotta love the power puckerers!
- James D Kirk
Scoble: I'm not going to take the bait on that -- I have unfollowed you, that's a neutral statement, it's not meant to hurt your feelings, or otherwise. That's the way this goes. No one is forced to follow. But, you really do get in my face more than I want. I meant everything I said in today's piece. And it's not aimed at you, or supposed to make you feel bad. This is the problem. Everything here is about you, according to you. I don't like it. I'm not asking you to change anything.
- Dave Winer
But if you want to NOT be the topic of conversation in every which way including ways you don't like, then you should change the way you do things. I'm not going to tiptoe around your ego, esp when you insert it all kinds of places where it doesn't belong.
- Dave Winer
BTW, I didn't like the way you were dealing with me last spring, so I changed my behavior, I never asked you to change.
- Dave Winer
According to Scoble, it's not who follows you, but who you follow. By definition he won't give a crap if someone unfollows him. Just my guess. Robert Scoble in no way has paid for this comment. ;)
- James D Kirk
James +1. I am not holding a gun to anyone's head here. Enslaved? That is a harsh word.
- Robert Scoble
Damn it Scoble. Give me a "-1" immediately, else the whiners of the world will consider that comment an endorsement! :P
- James D Kirk
I always found it interesting the tendency for one person to reduce another person's interest, or agreement with someone else, to brainwashing or mass delusion merely because they disagree with it. If you listen to Robert Scoble or you talk about what he says, you clearly are brainwashed and are a devout member of the Church of Scoble?
- Mark Trapp
Dave, I just blocked you with these reasons. 1. He feels that too much of friendfeed is enslaved to me. So, I freed him from my bonds. 2. He wants a place to post without interruption from me, so I gave it to him because now I won't see his friendfeed posts and be tempted to reply to them. 3. He once told me he blocks anyone who says that they are unfollowing him to "save them the...
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- Fast Company
Actually I said no one needs to suffer. You're totally within your rights to block me and I wish you the best! It still won't solve my problem, because the ScobleSphere is bigger than Scoble. :-(
- Dave Winer
@Robert: MySpace I'll buy but I'm thinking you just meant you don't use Live.com for search...because you do, in fact, have a Live.com profile! It's right here: http://is.gd/eo9b - and you already have 41 people in your network! You work fast! :-)
- Sarah Perez
Sarah: yeah. But I don't use it much. I have a myspace page too.
- Robert Scoble
is the problem with friendfeed - that there are insufficient options for selective viewing - or the problem that people find scoble interesting?
- Franz Sittampalam
I don't know this may seem way out there, but you all might want to actually you know, read the piece. It actually says that Scoble is right and the other guys are wrong. Funny how one might actually miss that you know, if you know you didn't you know read the you know actual piece. http://bit.ly/P0CR
- Dave Winer
shedali: actually I am a social media fungus. I am everywhere Dave Winer doesn't want me to be. But glad we can get back to something more interesting like whether Steve Jobs is still making cool product or not.
- Robert Scoble
Jobs? Is he still alive? I thought I heard he died and was turned in yogurt.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Jack: that just proves that you can break news by both eating yogurt and friendfeeding, doesn't it?
- Robert Scoble
@Robert - sure, we all have abandoned MySpace pages :) but the home.live.com thing is still kinda new soooo....anyway, it's cool that you set it up with your Twitter info 'cause I can see the tweets from my network in my Live Messenger window...that's handy
- Sarah Perez
@Sarah - I agree the new home.live.com is very cool....
- Amar Shah
Dave: people read the post. The issue is that the most interesting portion of the post was in the first paragraph, where you launched into a diatribe about how much you can't stand Scoble being everywhere. It didn't relate to the rest of your post, but you chose to put it out there anyway. You really don't get to control what portions of what you put out in public people react to.
- Mark Trapp
Dave: I'll bet most of the folks repsponding here probably did read your post, and are just responding the first seemingly unrelated "#" where you wish you didn't see so much of Robert, rather than the rest of it where you weigh in on the Arrington/Calacanis v Scoble kerfuffle.
- Ken Sheppardson
I haven't seen Scoble show up in the "Really Gay Room" yet. Maybe Dave would feel more comfortable hanging out there.. ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
Good post sharing an example of a large corporation that does exactly the wrong thing when one if its employees starts interacting with customers via social media.
- Chris Cree
or when 2 of it's employees let their egos get in the way of the corporate good
- Bill Sanders
I had this very same experience 10 years ago, although I didn't post officially in the space (unofficially yes) and they went NUTS trying to find out who. I even took Cluetrain Manifesto and gave it to the CEO - got into serious trouble for that. They really didn't have a clue...and were management consultants, people you'd expect to want to have 'conversations' and are probably all...
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- Tim
"The 200-foot-long toy rabbit lies on the side of the 5,000 foot high Colletto Fava mountain in northern Italy's Piedmont region. The pink rabbit was knitted by Gelitin, the Viennese art collective, as an outdoor sculpture for people to climb on, sleep on, and generally play with. It is made of soft, waterproof, materials and is stuffed with straw."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
'preciate the chuckles this brought me this morning, bruh!
- DYKC?™
David: here they are http://www.gelitin.net/mambo... 5th down on the right. I remember these people... They're the ones who did the pissing fountain performance a while back somewhere in NYC. They built this structure above an audience in a room, drank lots of water, climbed up onto it and urinated into buckets on top of each others' heads. (I think they were all male.) Lots of criticism about how low art is stooping these days... but the bunny is kind of cool...
- Kamilah Gill