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YouTube - The Honest $10000 SPAM - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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"What happens when an unbelievable offer of $10000 risk free money is actually genuine?"
- zeroinfluencer
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Deep in the sofa, smoke in the air, beer in the glass, bowie in the hifi. I'm the Mayor of happiness. #foundmynewlocalbar
Here's to 2010 Mr Mayor!
- James Tindall
Thank you Govn'r!
- zeroinfluencer
Smiley Facepalm for @robmyers - http://www.afacepalmaday.com/2009...
Must have in all chat apps now.
- zeroinfluencer
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What's the ASCII?
- Adam Hoyle
from iPhone
<facepalm> !
- zeroinfluencer
Warning: Red Band Kick-Ass Trailer: http://www.comicvine.com/news...
Andrew Terry, Itachi, Chieze Okoye and 2 other people liked this
There are basically two different kinds of movie trailers. The ones for all audiences are known as "green band" trailers. You'll even see a green background when the trailer begins. Then there's the "red band" ones. These are ones that tend to have more 'adult' content. Let me just say that this trailer is not for everyone. If you are easily offended, you might want to just keep moving along. Do not click play.
- Graham Sergeant
Hit-Girl is played by Chloe Moretz. Kick-Ass, as you may know, is a movie based on the comic by Mark Millar and John Romita Jr. It's due in theaters on April 16, 2010.
- Graham Sergeant
Awesome trailer but kinda creepy to see an 11 year old girl swearing like a sailor cutting off limbs.
- Bryan Lee
Dodge This
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Oh Dear God, I think that I just peed my pants. This movie looks so awesome, I can't wait.
- Chieze Okoye
Pretty pimp, but less purple hair please
- Itachi
Co-adapted from Frank Miller's comic by Jonathan Ross's wife, Jane Goldman who also adapted Neil Gaiman's Stardust.
- Graham Sergeant
Agree with 1sergio: Holy fuck balls
- Itachi
I'm wanting sequels already...
- zeroinfluencer
yeah, no kidding
- Chieze Okoye
News At Seven - bot presented news as automated animation with speech synthesis. Now for something completely scripted... - http://infolab.northwestern.edu/project...
SuezanneC Baskerville liked this
"Once it has assembled and edited its material, News At Seven presents the content to its audience using avatars and text-to-speech (TTS) technology in a manner similar to the nightly news watched regularly by millions of Americans. The result is a cohesive, compelling performance that successfully combines techniques of modern news programming with features made by possible only by the fact that the system is, at its core, completely virtual."
- zeroinfluencer
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Microsoft files patent for user-health-generated Avatars // via @atomless - http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
"It's okay if you need to read that headline again. It's pretty confusing. Here's the gist of it: Microsoft filed a patent in June of 2008 for the automatic generation of an Avatar based on a user's physical health. The patent application, discovered by 1UP, specifically details an "avatar generator" that "reflects a physical characteristic of the user." Physical data about the user would be used to "reflect a degree of health of the real person." In turn, this could be linked to "rewards of capabilities of a gaming avatar, an amount of time budgeted to play, or a visible indication." In other words, the patent is all about "injecting a degree of reality" into Avatar appearances, thus encouraging users to exercise and maintain a more active lifestyle."
- zeroinfluencer
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Official Google Blog: The meaning of open - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
Accept Defeat: The Neuroscience of Screwing Up: http://www.wired.com/magazin...
Wildcat, Jimminy Fuller and zeroinfluencer liked this
"The reason we’re so resistant to anomalous information — the real reason researchers automatically assume that every unexpected result is a stupid mistake — is rooted in the way the human brain works. Over the past few decades, psychologists have dismantled the myth of objectivity. The fact is, we carefully edit our reality, searching for evidence that confirms what we already believe. Although we pretend we’re empiricists — our views dictated by nothing but the facts — we’re actually blinkered, especially when it comes to information that contradicts our theories. The problem with science, then, isn’t that most experiments fail — it’s that most failures are ignored."
- Graham Sergeant
The rub is that science is for the ego - which rejects failure as a gain? When science is for the common gain, failure are embraced.
- zeroinfluencer
notthisbody: The Emographic Census - http://spacecollective.org/notthis...
Wildcat and Francesco D'Orazio liked this
"The Emographic Census is a framework, focus & context that fosters the creation and linking of narratives (real or fictional), that maps existing, imaginary, evolving points of view, and blurs/bends/breaks existing ontologies of media creation & our interaction (that thinning membrane) with media."
- zeroinfluencer
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TED Blog: TED Prize winner announced! - Jamie Oliver. - http://blog.ted.com/2009...
But I know that image from elsewhere: http://www.jeffkoons.com/site...
- zeroinfluencer
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The Cycles of Virtue and Substance: Fritz Kahn and the Chemical Cycles of Man and Machine (via @MissMakimon) - http://toomanyinterests.wordpress.com/2008...
Tristan Hambling, Alternating Reality Books, james reilly and 3 other people liked this
"some striking illustrations produced by Kahn of chemical cycles and how these images further located industrial machines as part of a single unitary nature."
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From Uruguay to Hollywood: Watch the Video - http://movies.yahoo.com/feature...
James Tindall liked this
"Here's a fairy tale that could only happen in the movies. Man makes YouTube video. Goes to Hollywood. Gets pots of money and a movie deal. Except this story is true."
- zeroinfluencer
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This is ok, tells the story well enough but the production values are not as high as The Purchase Brothers take on Half-Life 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch...) or the Empire invasion of San Francisco (http://www.youtube.com/watch...), both of which had next-to-nothing budgets.
- Graham Sergeant
From Uruguay to Hollywood: Watch the Video - http://movies.yahoo.com/feature...
HealingBrush, Jim Norris, Private Sanjeev and 21 other people liked this
"An unknown producer from Uruguay, Fede Alvarez, shelled out about $300 to create a cool video of a robot invasion in Montevideo, the capital of Uruguay. [After uploading to Youtube] the offer he pocketed: A $30 million deal with Sam "Spiderman" Raimi's Ghost House Pictures.""
- Simon
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Amazing. I can't believe that only cost $300.
- Bret Taylor
Next District 9.
- bopm
Alvarez even made a classic quote with a downstairs falling child carriage, brilliant)))
- Peter Fedin
$300 and a bucket of favours...
- zeroinfluencer
Photographs of rural and small town Indiana by Christopher Crawford - http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com/fine_ar...
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Jay Bird, esther ♥ ♫, A.T. and 5 other people liked this
Utopia...
- zeroinfluencer
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or dystopia, depends on the POV ;)
- Michael Bravo
from f2p
@Michael, for sure. I think they set up the town as their little Utopia.
- zeroinfluencer
The Cycles of Virtue and Substance: Fritz Kahn and the Chemical Cycles of Man and Machine (via @MissMakimon) - http://toomanyinterests.wordpress.com/2008...
"some striking illustrations produced by Kahn of chemical cycles and how these images further located industrial machines as part of a single unitary nature."
- zeroinfluencer
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Sofa. Tea. Tabs. For 2.
Waited a long time for this symmetry.
- zeroinfluencer
k-punk: War On Pop 2.0 [RATM Vs. Xfactor] via @robmyers - http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archive...
"All of which seems to resonate with the discussion of "predatory capital" and anticipatory capture in Steve Goodman's Sonic Warfare. The most significant use of sound on the X-Factor is not the blandness of the constestants' singing, but the audio-blitz used to hype the show and the performances. This flash-cutting neuronic barrage resembles the hypnotic film montages in The Parallax View or A Clockwork Organge. No sonic cliche is left unused , all those Star Wars whooshes, electricity crackles... (wouldn't it be good if someone could develop a proper typology of these sound effects used in film and TV hype - perhaps they already have.) It is a sonic war in the media sensorium, in which the "mediocre audio-visual proramming" that Underground Resistance's Mike Banks warned about is ruthlessly enforced."
- zeroinfluencer
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Random Artwork Microblogger (randomartwork) - Identi.ca - http://identi.ca/randomartwork
"A web service generating random artwork descriptions."
- zeroinfluencer
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Preview of iPhone Warfare Game 'Trenches' _ Life after Tower Defense games? - http://toucharcade.com/2009...
James Tindall liked this
Slowest parallax scroller ever? Looks good.
- zeroinfluencer
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Excellent post about #EchoBazaar from the delicious @diszaster: Is that an ARG in my RPG? - http://diszaster.blogspot.com/2009...
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James Tindall liked this
Confirming my suspicions that narrative and storytelling are not the same thing. The former is an algorithm, the later an equation.
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Epic 70-Min Review Of The Phantom Menace (Narrated by a man who sounds strangely similar to Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs) - http://www.cinemablend.com/new...
"this is an hour and ten minute reflection and review of the epic shit storm that was Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. But, trust me, it is unlike any review you have ever seen. Narrated by a man who sounds strangely similar to Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs, the first line of the seven part series is "Star Wars The Phantom Menace was more disappointing than my son," and it only gets stranger from there. Breaking down the film scene by scene, exploring Qui-Gon Jinn's secret drinking problem, the complete and utter uselessness of battle droids and the fact that kids ruin everything, there is not a line or continuity error that sneaks by him. It should also be mentioned that the narrator is a complete fucking lunatic who is keeping a female prisoner in his basement and kills prostitutes with Raid, but that is really just a side plot."
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want to try google wave but fed up of the walled garden? try pirate pad for collaborative editing: http://piratepad.net
chaz2b and zeroinfluencer liked this
must be an etherpad install
- zeroinfluencer
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The 6 Types of Crappy Hugs - The Oatmeal - http://theoatmeal.com/comics...
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Adrian Scicluna and Jannifer @wordsforliving liked this
Making Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up" in Ableton by Jim Pavloff http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Ben Bayliss and zeroinfluencer liked this
Brilliant. Copyright train wreck 101!
- zeroinfluencer
Berlin Start-Up map - Google Maps - http://maps.google.com/maps...
"Berlin Start-Up map The purpose of this map is to give the viewer an idea of where web startups are located in Berlin. This should especially help foreigners interested in opening an office in Berlin to locate favorable areas. If your startup is missing, please add it (and describe it in English)."
- zeroinfluencer
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Is it really all that healthy for design agencies to interbreed in a spitting distance incest drinking pot a la Shoreditch? I prefer the new urbanism walking distance model of neighbourhoods... the idea being that services of a type are evenly distributed through the entire urban fabric rather than glomming things of a type into a single zone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki......
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- Graham Sergeant
You're right, Fred Wilson of Union Ventures says the similar, but citing New York as /the/ place to do a start up as it has the highest concentration of diversity for anywhere in the world. But he is a VC based in NY... Clustering happens when artists move into the cheap areas, then services arrive and you get a spurge of growth. Less intentional, but there is a gravity which creates the incestuous think/drink tanks.
- zeroinfluencer
It seems there are never any discussions on FriendFeed. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?
david beckwith, Penguin It's Cold Outside, Kirsten Mitchell and 48 other people liked this
Unfortunately, discussions here have gone south... Vocal users have moved to twitter, but there discussions are lost. And then, there's facebook -IFAIC, I try to keep it "private"...
- Panayotis Vryonis
Nope, *plenty* of discussion here. It's when you're not around that you miss it.
- Itachi
There was an article about how FF's quality has gotten better recently. I don't see it either, which brings a tear to my eye. We had some great, deep discussions on topics over here. That was Friendfeed to me, it was deeper engagement.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
And I can't give Scoble all the credit but clearly he was part of that...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Where DID Scoble go?!... things have gotten awful quiet.
- Thom Kennon
He fell in love with Twitter Lists and gave up on FF after Facebook acquired...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
*wonders if he has transformed into chopped liver*
- Morgan Haley
What kind of discussions are you looking for. We've been talking about the best Robin Hood all morning!
- Jeremy (quasimodo)
I agree. Little discussion here and every one I generate takes root elsewhere. I occasionally join one here, but conversation on FF has dwindled in everything I see.
- Ken Camp
See here's the problem I see here: There are people that I have rarely, if ever have seen in this thread. Dave Winer is a guy who is famous in the social media world. People often sign up and follow the feeds of Winer, Scoble, and the like and that's all they see. When Scoble leaves and others, they agree with them for saying FriendFeed is dead. However, to the contrary, it's very much...
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- Itachi
I think for some of these people if you aren't a techie, your conversations aren't that important. That's one thing I've noticed that has changed on FF. There is less of some things, but a lot more meaningful interaction among the people who have remained. The people still here are the ones who value a different type of personal interaction. FF is still very active and alive.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
dave - everyone moved to social median
- Allen Stern
I think there's a big difference between "tech" and "social media". People like Scoble often mix this up. There is plenty of "tech" discussion on Friendfeed. And I agree, with Junebug on that respect as well.
- Itachi
Dave, Jesse blogged this http://friendfeed.com/jessest... + http://friendfeed.com/jessest... . DeWitt is back http://friendfeed.com/dewitt... and Glen http://friendfeed.com/dewitt... is going strong. Also, Itachi (mohomed) has a good points.
- Micah Wittman
Maybe we just aren't talking about what you want to see? Your FriendFeed != My FriendFeed :)
- Johnny Worthington
Once again, the color of the speech bubbles are very telling here. Morgan, Micah, Johnny, Allen have blue. People I'm subscribed to. Names I recognize. The rest of you? White. What are you guys subscribed to, exactly?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Bingo, Rah. The less than active tend to be subscribed to only the A-listers of social media who they are familiar with. And who, alas, aren't active on Friendfeed.
- Itachi
the italian section of friendfeed is quite vocal...
- Alb.
The problem is Dave that many of the tech influentials, CEOs, programmers, journalists, etc spend their time elsewhere now. There are conversations but they are dramatically different than what were happening six months ago.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I think Itachi said it best earlier. The influentials and the like were the common glue (or routers so to speak) that joined various circles together. The routers are now gone, so now we are left with disconnected LANs. Each hold their value to that island but there much fewer bridges any more at least for the technical community.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
There are still some very interesting conversations that happen here - you just have to be subscribed to the right people. Follow some of the OpenID guys (Micah mentioned a few) - there is still a lot of conversation in that area that goes on here. It's a great conversations medium, much better than Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
I would argue many of the developers and programmers who used Friendfeed are still on here. Just because it's not the hot fad of the season doesn't mean it's dead. Slashdot isn't covered much by the social media kings, yet it's still alive and well.
- Itachi
Entries on my home feed with 3 or more comments: http://friendfeed.com/search.... You're welcome to modify the number to come up with your own definition of "discussion"
- Benjamin Golub
my FF has slowed down recently - people I used to have regular discussions with are either not as active, or not at the same time I am... as a result I use it less, and it probably trickles like that
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I think those people who formed a unique community on FriendFeed are noticing less of a change because their community is staying here. Those whose community exists outside of FriendFeed and merely uses FriendFeed as one channel of communication may find more volatility because it's easy to shift to the latest thing. Dave, as someone deep in the tech industry filled with early adopters (and early abandoners) your FriendFeed may be more adversely affected than others like myself.
- Kevin Fox
Dave subscribes to only 122 people -- maybe he needs to broaden his horizons?
- Brian Sullivan
My feed has never been busier, and I'm getting new subs every day. Of course, I'm not very techy so if you are, our paths might not cross.
- Derrick
Building on Benjamin Golub's search: here's the same thing, but for friends of Dave Winer: http://friendfeed.com/search... Looks like a bunch of discussions, several in the last couple of hours.
- Mark Trapp
I think everyone nailed it on this one... FF is no longer the holy land of social media zealot discussion, but has retained a very real connectivity to it surrounding non-tech and some-what tech individuals. IMO, Scoble and the like are not the celebs of current FF, but true wonderful characters like Derrick are becoming them in their absence. If left alone long enough this place could really be cool.
- SAM
Not all discussions are in the main feed either. There's a ton of active groups.
- Rodfather
Kevin should win an award or something for clarity of thought. And to throw in my two cents behind many of the others here, my feed is nuts. I often have to rely on a subset list along with RSS notices just to keep up. Also, unlike the last few months, I'm starting to see a lot of new subs recently. My guess is that FriendFeed is not dead; it was just tired after a long squawk. Seems to be perking up quite nicely now.
- Akiva Moskovitz
+1 Rodfather. Group discussions don't show up in the main feed unless someone cross-posts to their personal feed. Also, techy discussion is fairly limited these days, for the reasons previously mentioned. Mostly it's discussion about our personal lives, work or some article that may be about tech gadgets, but isn't really a technical discussion.
- Jason Huebel
Oh, and for one, I would like to see more tech-oriented discussions here. Sure, I'm all about the hyper-hangout that FriendFeed has become but I also miss the hardcore geek-outs that used to occur here. And I just seriously can't get my head around people having the same quality discussions about tech on Twitter that we used to have here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Yeah, it's not possible to have a discussion on Twitter. I've posted some tech-oriented things recently and I'm beginning to move more toward geeky stuff in general, but a lot of my geekier discussions are in groups that don't make it into the main feed.
- Jason Huebel
I actually think the conversation streams and peeps have diversified from more hardcore tech to more cultural, art, cooking! not a bad thing. just a different tone and nature of the conversations. i still like that quote from a FF denizen who said "Facebook is where i hang out with people i already know. FriendFeed is where I hang out with people I'm getting to know." Speaking of FB -...
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- Thom Kennon
Dave, let's back up here... Looking at your feed, 99% of your posts are just imports from other services (mainly Twitter). Then you hop over to FriendFeed and say "why doesn't anyone discuss anything anymore?" It's because you aren't participating here. Gotta give something to get something. Commenting on your own Disqus imports isn't participation, either. I think the fact of the matter is that people don't feel an obligation to feed the geekeratti egos now that they've all but abandoned the service.
- Jason Huebel
The last reply you made to a post that wasn't your own was back on December 1st (http://friendfeed.com/chrisme...). Two weeks ago! And you haven't even replied to this post, which you made 3 hours ago.
- Jason Huebel
I also appreciate the fact that a large majority of users are having discussions in languages OTHER than English.
- Johnny Worthington
It's an elegant social network for a more civilized age.
- Goran Zec
Johnny, why?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Because it counters the thinking (or lack of thinking) of a few social media experts that places like FriendFeed and Twitter and other social networks only exists in western, English speaking countries...
- Johnny Worthington
Not everyone has an iPhone, not everyone can watch Hulu, not everyone can play Foursquare, not everyone has unlimited (uncapped) bandwidth, not everyone wants to know the news the second it happens, not everyone cares who someone reads and not everyone wants to talk tech 24/7. I like it outside the bubble :)
- Johnny Worthington
Maybe I do need to follow more people, but with the same number of followers there used to always be something interesting in FF to read about and comment on.
- Dave Winer
I also love the non-English. gives the place both a global feel - and reality. I have peeps, clients, etc. around the world and FriendFeed is our agreed great leveler.
- Thom Kennon
People you used to follow here have moved on to Twitter. Not many techies around these days. This leaves the rest, regular guys talking about regular stuff. But maybe this kind of discussions don't interest you.
- Jordi Soler
It's like a garden, if you don't tend to the garden bed, weeds will grow. If you don't prune your roses, you just have dead twigs.
- Johnny Worthington
@Thom and Johnny, I participate in the non-English posts fairly often. It's easier with FF Translate, even though I can only reply in English (and hope they can read it). Hey Micah, any chance you can make a translate thingamajig that goes the opposite direction? Translate my English to the language of the post?
- Jason Huebel
Jordi there are still a lot of Techies - follow Dewitt Clinton, myself, Chris Messina, Dave Recordon even some times participates. Then there's Paul, Bret, Benjamin, Kevin, etc. of the FF Team. Cristo's a techie. I could go on and on...
- Jesse Stay
In fact I probably participate with more techies than non on here.
- Jesse Stay
There are a ton of conversations here and some are tons more interesting than others. This one is interesting. The question is though if you are not having a conversation here - where are you hanging out lately?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Dave, I've been following you since at least 1995, and long before Friendfeed and Twitter. It was because of you that I heard about and joined Friendfeed and I regret the fact that it's lost its momentum since being absorbed into Facebook. There is still no substitute for what FF used to be. But the circus has left town now and there is no way of bringing it back. FF will continue and...
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- Tim Ostler
@Jesse: Perhaps I don't follow the right people then. Anyway, it was not a complaint, it was just a theory of what has happened to Friendfeed recently. More international content (myself) and more "social" posts. Which does not mean that there aren't any techies left. I'll follow your recommendations, thanks!
- Jordi Soler
I blame Facebook for all problems related to any lack of participation over here (j/k)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Although "blame" is a harsh word, the Facebook acquisition was a significant turning point. Whether that's a downturn or not is debatable, but that's when most of the tech-elite skipped town. I admit to feeling down-in-the-mouth occasionally because I miss the technical involvement of the FF devs. But there is still a lot of good discussion here. It's just not as technical in nature.
- Jason Huebel
Discussions are not missing. They're just harder to find.
- Louis Gray
Jason, it's worth a good hard think and discussion. Posting translated text is a thornier issue (thinking form the POV of the tool maker). It commits to record an imperfect source, with any successive translations further degrading the signal (copy of a copy). Maybe I'm overly concerned about it, but like I said - needs more discussion. Thanks for getting the ball rolling :)
- Micah Wittman
@kr8tr tried to hold a 30 min real-time Q&A yesterday via Twitter on "What's it like to be Scoble's boss". I bailed because little way to follow. Twitter search on "@kr8tr" kind of worked but you had to keep refreshing. Google search a little better. But it would have been ideal had he announced it on Twitter (where everybody is) and then pointed to Friendfeed for the Q&A. Not sure there's a better platform for that kind of rt discussion.
- Nick in Manila
Another prob with Twitter in above context is everyone is using different Twitter apps that regurgitate the firehose at different rates so some people see comments much later that others. On Friendfeed, the sequence is at least consistent across participants.
- Nick in Manila
Dave, you might need to broaden your interests.
- zeroinfluencer
Nick: I agree. One little datapoint, though. Since Facebook bought FriendFeed I've gained 14,000 followers on Twitter. That is more followers than all but five people on FriendFeed have. The reason Twitter is popular is, well, it's popular. I'm sad that FriendFeed lost out, but it did. Oh, and Facebook has similar threading to FriendFeed only you have to refresh the page to see new...
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- Robert Scoble
Robert, with the 14,000 new followers, is that a spike or did it follow natural upward trends?
- Johnny Worthington
Johnny: it's definitely going up faster lately due to new list feature.
- Robert Scoble
So do we assume conversations are "dying"? (Hate the word, every once in a while something "dies" in the internet...)
- Jordi Soler
It would also be helpful to evaluate the level of conversation that was here and has now left. Quantity != Quality
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
For each of us it depends who we are following and who is following us, and whether people with interests in discussing certain things overlap in time sufficiently with you to get a conversation going - I guess I need to change my follow profile
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
:D
- ★ Soner Gönül
There's 59 comments and 32 likes on this thread. What are you looking for exactly? That said, I tend to read only the 1st and last comment in these long threads.
- Vincent van Wylick
Vincent you got me there. Of course I knew there would be 33 likes and a zillion comments on this when I posted it. I am such an unreasonable person and you could see that! Your mother must be so proud of her little Vincent. :-)
- Dave Winer
thats why i am out of here and spending my time in boredom ,reading or sleeping
- ffcode
Vincent, the reason there is so much activity on this thread is because the topic is Friendfeed, specifically lack of activity on Friendfeed. People will flock to a topic if they can prove it wrong.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
@Jason, that's a kind of cynical view, don't you think? This is a topic that's of common interest to everyone on FF. Most other posts are only interesting to smaller groups of people. That's not a bad thing. I think there is just a wider array of topics to talk about on FF now that tech evangelists have moved on. So the activity is spread out.
- Jason Huebel
And again, looking at your feed activity, you spend very little time interacting with others on FF. Most of your activity is importing from Facebook. So your experience isn't going to be as good as someone who actually shows interest in the posts of others here.
- Jason Huebel
I wasn't saying there aren't conversations to be found but I'm talking about his experience. He wasn't seeing any interactions on his posts until he posted about FF. Make your own conclusions.
- Jason Williams
Which is why I said "again". Dave Winer's interaction with other people's posts is minimal as well. He comments on his own posts all the time. But you'll never start a conversation if you only talk to yourself.
- Jason Huebel
Dave has obviously not visited the Life Scientists room :)
- Deepak Singh
it's a hard sell when you can't engage with your own content, for sure. I'm trying to be better at adding commentary as to why I thought it important enough to (re)post what I (re)post rather than leave it to a bunch of bots to aggregate/shovel it out.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
But he did start a conversation, it's just that it was about Friendfeed so others joined in. Go look at best of day at any time and you'll find multiple items about Friendfeed. It doesn't bode well for a service if the most popular activity on that service is about said service. If you looked at Twitter and saw half of the trending topics looking like (Twitter fail, twitter is dead,...
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- Jason Williams
Jason, I don't comment on my own posts. That's the second time you said it, and you're wrong. I hooked up my Disqus feed to FF so you're seeing my comments there echoed here. Stop being such a wiseass, you're not half as smart as you think you are.
- Dave Winer
Ah, nice. Name calling and insults. But you've just proven my point. The "comments" are also coming from somewhere else. You expect to have people interact with you but you invest very little time in FF yourself. If you put even a small percentage of effort into FF that you do other services, you might actually see results. It's no longer good enough to import one's feeds into FF and expect people to pay attention. That ended when many of the tech elite left the service back in August.
- Jason Huebel
The truth is, the people left here on FF are mostly "little fish" when it comes to tech. So one really can't expect to get 1000 likes and 2000 comments on a post anymore. None of us have a "fan base" that can support that.
- Jason Huebel
I don't expect anything -- I asked a question.
- Dave Winer
I think Friendfeed is evolving into something quite different of what some people predicted a while back. But it's not dying, no way.
- Jordi Soler
Except when I'm addressing the issues I've pointed out with your feed, when I say "you", I'm using that as people in general. I can change all the you's to "one", if that will clarify. (Done.)
- Jason Huebel
Jordi, what is your definition of dying? Is it different than people leaving en mass (with the exception of non-english speaking countries) and the talent behind the service bought up by a mega-site all the while people arguing weather the service is viable/dying?
- Jason Williams
Good point. Dying as in "Geocities dying". But I see people talking about many things everyday. Just not the same topics there used to be.
- Jordi Soler
OK wait, Dave. First you claim that there are no discussions on FF. Then you say you don't comment on your own posts. The way I was brought up was that a discussion is when you say something, then other people respond, then you respond back, and so on. FF, like most anything else in life, is what you make it. If you don't interact with people here, then you have little basis for complaining (sorry, _observing_) that there are never any discussions here.
- vicster is...
vicster++
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I don't understand why people think the convo on friendfeed has gone down hill. It is the same if not better then it was before. If you don't like the discussions from the people you are following then find some new people to follow.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
i dunno about other people, but my FF is jumping so fast lately that i can barely keep up...and now it's mostly things i DO want to read about.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
vicster+++ I just skimmed, but this dude sounds like he hasn't been skiing for three years and says "how come no one ever skies anymore?" If you came to the FF mountain once in a while, you'd see my crazy ass every freaking day. I use FF more now than I ever have, more than I ever dreamed I'd enjoy. Now maybe you think the mountain has been taken over by hooligans, and that may be a fair point, but the caliber and content of my discussions do not make them non-discussions.
- Lo
My conclusion, based on this thread, is that there is indeed some discussing going on on FF. Mostly of the "Neener neener" variety. :-)
- Dave Winer
You can't base your conclusion on one thread of conversation with a topic like this. Why don't go and look for other people to follow and you'll see some activity.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Well, sure. You called us out. So there's going to be a bit of that. But in all honesty, there's a lot of good people here with a lot to talk about. You just have to seek it out.
- Jason Huebel
@Dave: "Neener neener" is the response your comments require lately.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Of course you don't see any conversations taking place...you aren't even subscribed to me.
- Alex Scoble
+1 Alex, the Scoble of FF.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
When I said "Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?" I was (in case it wasn't totally obvious) looking for suggestions not lectures. I'm now following Alex Scoble. I check FF many times each day.
- Dave Winer
Woo! I finally hit the big time! Seriously, though...thanks for the subscription, Dave. Much appreciated.
- Alex Scoble
Dave, what type of topics are you most interested in?
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
If the FriendFeed community were not so oversensitive, one of the 100 comments above would have answered Dave's question by pointing him to the advanced search form, specifically the "at least _ comments" field and the saved search feature. Then he could quickly find discussions on his favorite topics every visit.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce: That was the 23rd comment, from Benjamin Golub. How more/less oversensitive does that make us? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Good point, Ken. I searched for "advanced", "comments" and one other term, but didn't find that one. It makes the community 34.7% less oversensitive.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Sweet.
- Ken Sheppardson
Friendfeed and Twitter lack the depth and breadth of Facebook, no matter which way you slice it. Gather the best minds of our generation, in many fields and areas, on Facebook, and you will not have to complain. Friendfeed and Twitter are, however, useful as secondary feeds into Facebook.
- david beckwith
FriendFeed still saves my stuff, unlike Facebook where my posts are lost in the ether, but I do miss the more active FriendFeed of times past. I think once "best of" became a standard feature, FriendFeed shifted to more family, personal life, etc... discussions rather than "tech" stuff (for better or for worse). Even for techies, new/lost jobs, new/old romances, etc... generated more feedback & discussion than most tech topics.
- Mitchell Tsai
The number two christmas game this year. - http://eaonpritchard.blogspot.com/2009...
What could be more engaging at Christmas - after dinner and the Queens speech, of course - than having all the family gather round with a glass of sherry and play a game of Guess Poo. The classic 'flip and find the faces' game, is now the classic 'flip and find the faeces' game.
- zeroinfluencer
from Bookmarklet
This reminds me of the Weasley twins creating a novelty curse called "You No Poo".
- Spidra Webster
Fwd: Pask!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch... (via http://friendfeed.com/gdmchn...)
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Type Trumps Card Game (via @richardmoross) - http://www.face37.com/work...
Type Trumps, a play on Top Trumps, is a game in which different typefaces are attributed numerical values. These figures are then used to enable the cards to be won or lost using some of the tried and tested ‘Top Trumps’ rules. The Type Trumps have a ‘ranking’, which is a subjectively ascribed positional value based on my personal favourites.
- zeroinfluencer
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