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Arrington threatened me if I take any photos or videos of the crunchpad. After seeing it I will buy three and put friendfeed on them for my new studio.
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Wow, look at the likes pour in!
- Pat Hawks
One real time filter per screen would be sorta slick.
- Ken Sheppardson
Not to be snotty, but could it handle the new friendfeed?
- Christopher Galtenberg
Him throwing out those "It might not happen" comments on the TechCrunch piece makes me worry. I would love to have one of these around for both the office and at home.
- Mike Flynn
how about crunchpad impressions in crunchy peanut butter? ;)
- bob phillips
Is Arrington underselling it?
- J Allen
Christopher: yes, it is fast enough for realime friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
The only downside I see is that it is a bit thicker than I would like.
- Robert Scoble
I want one for my living room so people don't need my computers to check their emails. I like the idea of having a cheap internet computer for guests.
- Andrew
crunchpad would be great for a variation of my tv/video concept piece. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari... Instead of a rotating barber chair in a room full of video feeds, you could have walls covered with filtered feeds. Imagine Scoble fastened in the chair, without controls, slowly rotating through the feeds.
- bob phillips
Do you think I will manage to get one before leaving the bay at the end of the month? Or at least to see it? :)
- Kurai (ff)
@Scoble How thick is it? Hard to tell from the photos.
- Mike Flynn
Price will be my only concern lol
- Dean Clark
Is it fast enough for Hulu? That's the question. :-)
- Kevin Fox
The real question is if it's fast enough for Facebook and playing 10 different racing apps at the same time on Facebook.
- Alex Scoble
How's the capacitive touch screen?
- Rodfather
Hmm... does it have video out? HDMI to a 42+ screen on the wall would be sorta slick
- Ken Sheppardson
I would love to have one with the EEE keyboard
- J Allen
Mr. Calacanis just posted one ;) http://beta.friendfeed.com/jasonca...
- Lasse Johnsen
Rodfather: the prototypes work great.
- Robert Scoble
break the embargo! unless it was a physical violence threat... O_O
- Alejandro
Was it heavy? Big battery? Compared to a 2lb device.
- Rodfather
Rodfather: it is slightly less than 2 lbs with battery. The engineer who is building them says production units should be lighter.
- Robert Scoble
@jasoncalacanis has a picture, is that the latest ?
- Ranjith Antony
Boris 'The Blade' Yurinov: [referring to Tommy's gun] Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it.
- shayne catrett
Maybe 4-5+ hrs with an Atom.
- Rodfather
Why do I want someone to break an embargo on this? Gee, let me think....
- Bwana ☠
If its priced right, it might be a good way to put up live feeds on your wall and just let them run. No interaction just let the feed run for viewing. Like a Stock ticker.
- CW™
I'd pay $200 more if they added a Wacom/Ntrig digitizer along with the capacitive touch screen.
- Rodfather
Rodfather check out this video http://qik.com/video/1429553 in which Michael Arrington gives a price of $150. It's near the end. Is he talking about the CrunchPad? You be the judge. There are also shots of the CrunchPad.
- Loren Heiny
The threats are rich coming from a guy who broke the FriendFeed Beta embargo an hour early just to get the scoop!
- Paul Jacobson
give jcal my love! xo
- sean percival
$150 with a nice profit? We'll see. Looking at Steve's guesses on specs and price, it's looking a bit more. http://www.umpcportal.com/2009.... I don't know how much individual components cost but would like to know how much a 12" capacitive touch screen is.
- Rodfather
Sounds like we'll know next week.
- Loren Heiny
The $150 is a joke. I don't think they will be that low.
- Robert Scoble
I wouldn't think so either. He didn't jump at your offer of $1000. :-)
- Loren Heiny
michael thinks "..on sale next week and delivered next month" http://qik.com/video/1429553
- Lasse Johnsen
Developers/engineers always underestimate what a hardware product costs (wishful thinking or deliberate misinformation?). The parts costs may be $150-200 (but even then unlikely) but what about all those other little incidental things like transporation, money costs, packaging costs, marketing costs and god knows what else?
- Brian Sullivan
Like profit? (Is that 'money costs'?)
- Kevin Fox
I just want to use Loren's Inkgram app again. http://www.tabletpcpost.com/InkGram.... Add a digitizer and pen garage and price it $400-600.
- Rodfather
Yeah well that too.
- Brian Sullivan
Will get one if it runs Linux. :D
- Rom Feria
Robert - ok when you are allowed to - post pics!! :)
- Susan Beebe
I like seeing that the units appear to be working prototypes. That's cool. Always difficult to tell from single photos.
- Loren Heiny
Josh: nah. There are already plenty of pictures out. I just want to be the first customer.
- Robert Scoble
LOL
- Mona Nomura
I'm guessing VPN and remote desktop (or logmein.com) are outside of the scope of the device?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
There is no embargo. The people behind this gave a "state of the union" here: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009.... It's at the prototype stage, no investors, no business plan. Not to say they won't get this, but it's still early.
- Stan Scott
Just had a look at the crunchpad article. Scratching my head on it, but I think it would win me over if it could be used also for graphics purposes...stylus preferably...so can it do that as well?
- George Hall (Australia)
CrunchPad would be great for watching movies and hulu
- Christian Burns
It's too early for something like this to work considering they will cost >$500 a pop.
- Internet's Tad
really? that good eh...
- Zee.
3, though?
- © b e e n s w a n k
if i can casually throw this in a backpack WITHOUT the screen getting F.U.B.A.R., then me wants one very much!
- shayne catrett
I will believe it, when I see it.
- Jim Connolly
Jim are you talking physically see it? OR seeing previews of it as they are all over the net ;)
- Nicholas James
Sounds like some people are thinking of using CrunchPads as generic PCs. That's fine if the cost and weight can be kept down. If not, I'd say keep iterating on the concept to see if a netbook or kindle priced device can be developed. Without any of these, the experience is going to need to be quite compelling.
- Loren Heiny
Nicholas - I meant to say, I will believe it when I see a devise, as feature rich as this, on sale for less than $150. When did lawyers start designing hardware? I missed that :)
- Jim Connolly
What I would love to see in ANY tablet but especially in this one is a decent artwork program. PocketPC's and Palm handhelds were always great to draw with, but were on ridiculous-sized screens. I'm surprised no one has thought to market a tablet computer as an art tool.
- George Hall (Australia)
I will discuss what I've learned by spamming Twitter here:
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1. People are perfectly happy spamming each other with "follow me" statements, but if I start having a heated conversation that's over the line.
- Robert Scoble
All ears. Go ahead Sir.
- Hardeep Singh Dang
more to come shortly.
- Robert Scoble
2. You are allowed to retweet things, but only once in a while. Say once every two hours or so like @timoreilly does. Do it more, and you'll get marked as a spammer.
- Robert Scoble
Wonder why they complained about heated conversation. Just a matter of setting notices in Twitter right.
- Hans-Joerg Stangor
3. People who say "I'm unfollowing you for spamming" or who complain about your spamming stuff are among the worst offenders. Case in point @bayliss and @karikari -- they provide the usual Twitter crap that spams ME. But then they complain about it when I do it.
- Robert Scoble
4. Twitter has -- for a lot of people -- become a game of collecting both followers and following names. They don't actually want to see these people, they just want cool people on their "following" list. Hint: if I don't tweet at all my follower count goes up by 300 a day.
- Robert Scoble
agreed re: retweeting. I think sometimes people don't put a retweet through the "is it of value" filter and RT in lieu of posting something original.
- PaulJohnson
There are a lot of funny people on Twitter! I would love to see a Twitter Ego app that measured people's perceived importance of themselves :-) Um, there's a challenge for some semantic genius...
- Steve Nimmons
People have different criteria for what's spam and what's not. It's pretty transparent to me who is spamming and who isn't. You are not spamming. You are just a well connected guy hearing about and seeing tremendous things every day. Spammers will die through Darwin's method...if spammer, unfollow. Case Closed.
- Troy Malone
5. I follow most people who says they are unfollowing me. Their output is almost ALWAYS 1/1000 what Jay Rosen or Dave Winer put out to their followers. I have not found an exception to this rule yet.
- Robert Scoble
Seen that quite a bit.
- Stephen Lecheler
6. The same behavior that will get you called "spammer" on Twitter will get you more followers on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
I think for the most part if you just "help people out" in social media, after a while slipping in something of self interest is ok
- prunch
7. I watch thousands of Tweets per day and 99.99999% of them are crap. Utter crap. So are mine.
- Robert Scoble
People seem to have lost the ability to filter things for themselves. If a comment on Twitter isn't interesting to you, just skip over it. If a program on TV is not to your liking, change channels. If a billboard ad annoys you, don't look at it. Society seems to be tending towards the impossibility of having to please everyone, all the time.
- John
frank: Twitter has turned into largely ONLY self interest and pushing of stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I can see you are upset, how can I help. :-) (I learned that from couples therapy)
- Shawn Thompson
All human discussion is crap most of the time. This crap helps us to get in tune. And once it is there the valuable part of the discussion starts.
- Hans-Joerg Stangor
@robert well maybe for you but my twitter community is very communicative with lots of 2 way conversations. But I am not a celebrity like you. People have different reasons for following/tweeting me than you.
- Chris
Shawn: I'm not upset. I'm tired of people being two-faced and telling me not to spam the system when they are a worse offender.
- Robert Scoble
@Scobleizer I get the same thing. Whenever I'm not on, people add me. As soon as I have a conversation, they unfollow :D Three profiles at play: the adaptive, the imitating, the cooperative - depending on the personal stress and that of the system. Overall, people notice what they think about (your point #3).
- Valeria Maltoni
Seconded. I'm in a rather tight knit World of Warcraft Community that we all are cross responding to each other and having a all around good time.
- Stephen Lecheler
If there's one thing that I'm upset about is that I'm not allowed to attack jerks like @karikari back. They are allowed to make me feel bad but I'm not allowed to make them feel bad back.
- Robert Scoble
I love GOOD spamming. Like the kind the Scobleizer does. I get good information from his tweets. I now use Tweetdeck thanks to him!
- Torrence Davis
They need to understand that when they follow a celeberty there is the distinct possibility they could get flodded with content they don't like
- Stephen Lecheler
Robert, I've been following you for a while and while I sometimes find that the retweets get to be a little much, I don't see the point of complaining to you about it. Even if there's 50 retweets I'm not interested in, there's always going to be at least something that I will be interested in and that's why I follow you. You get a lot of leeway because you have a lot of great content/opinions that are of interest to a broad amount of people whereas I do not. Ignore 'em and keep doing what you're doing.
- Jason Carter
Scoble finally admits he spams twitter! LOL :D just kidding! funny I enjoy the noise...bring it!
- Susan Beebe
Thirded. :-) I'm in several communities in twitter that are actual communities with actual discussion taking place.
- Joanmarie
Same with me.
- Donald Townsend
I do agree on the volume of re-tweets. Occasionally useful, but they become an echo chamber if you follow people in the same area/circles/what-have-you.
- Jason J. Thomas
Valeria, I think in general people get irritated by what they most hate about themselves.
- Nicola Quinn
Having used FF and Twitter for almost the same amount of time, I find it virtually impossible to "converse" on Twitter. If there is a conversation on Twitter and the first Tweet doesn't grab my interest I ignore the rest of the conversation. While I think Twitter should only be used for the odd small conversation, that rule shouldn't apply to anyone else but me.
- Kenton
Newly minted user of FF, but used Twitter for nearly a year now. The one thing that I had difficulty with on Twitter is backtracking a post to what it was originally about. I like being able to see the full context of a conversation
- Stephen Lecheler
Good conversation doesn't mean we all have to agree. There's nothing more boring than "Yeah, me too" replies. Heat it up, Robert!
- Dave Cadoff
Great stuff in this thread, AND FriendFeed really needs to get comment threading like yesterday... Robert, I have thought a lot about how social media can ultimately work for marketers (and let's face it, everybody is marketing something at all times, even if it's just themselves for approval/acceptance/asf.), and the big sticking point is that people react to almost ANY blurring of social and business contexts as a violation of social trust, i.e. violently. Good stuff in Ariely's "Predictably Irrational"..
- Alex Schleber
.. on that, Chapter 4, The Cost of Social Norms. In my view, you can just about never offer anything directly to your first level followers/friends/etc., you can at best count on the network effects, i.e. FoFs being interested.
- Alex Schleber
Robert: "frank: Twitter has turned into largely ONLY self interest and pushing of stuff. - Robert Scoble" True to a large extent but I'm reading your links/posts because the good outweighs the bad
- prunch
Hi Robert. Re your point "Twitter has turned into largely ONLY self interest and pushing of stuff" - I keep my follower number to about 300 - friends, people I have met and look up to, and a small number of news feeds. This helps make Twitter a conversation and makes it useful in the opposite way to much of what I'm reading above here. It's really interesting to see you push Twitter's limits, but most of how I see it used in the UK is like a mix between IM and Facebook. Small enough to be useful
- Drew B
Even in the most horacious of spam, some people still find value in it. Some of it is actually REAL marketing disguised as spam. The concept of spam is completely relative to the person receiving it. I find at least Robert spams stuff that interests me for the most part. It's not like he's pitching male enhancement products ;)
- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
Twitter numbers for me largely reside on being balanced. Having roughly the same followers and followings is nice. Admittedly though, I'm more of a lurker. I have yet to put myself in the mindset that anything that goes on in my life is interesting and as such, I just intake content and do not put out much of my own (in twitter and FF amongst other sites). One resolution for me is to contribute more, even if it is "crap." ;)
- Arlan Koizumi
8. I tell clients to tweet what they want, and that @replies and RTs are even more important for engaging in conversation. I'm going to tweet personal and professional crap because I'm sticking to a single Twitter account/persona (personal philosophical decision). If people unfollow me because I tweeted about my dinner or daughter or dirty martinis too many times, screw 'em.
- Eric Elkins
I figured out long ago that I can't please everyone. If people unfollow, then they unfollow and that's that.
- Morton Fox
Robert - I'm beginning to see some of what you're talking about re: conversations being better on FriendFeed... my assessment for now is that Twitter is being used primarily as a networking tool - people want to know just enough to know what it is you are doing / working / thinking about, so that they can see if there are commonalities to connect / collaborate over... FriendFeed is more of a conversation space, but I don't see, for better or worse, the same emphasis on networking
- Michael Broukhim
I think it points to a larger issue, as hinted at the beginning of this (Name "Flair" following versus following based on interest in your content). I believe it lends itself to a lot of people following still without doing any research into your style/frequency of updates. While it affects mistakenly tagging authentic/timely information as spam, it also increasingly affects how the Twitterverse pressures somewhat fragile "rules" on posting methods.
- Brandon
I love point #6 Ironic! The whole thing about not tweeting adds more followers is so true. I was sick for two weeks recently, and I barely tweeted at all. My account grew by 15 percent during that time. Thanks for sharing those pearls of twitter wisdom. One last thing, it seems like @timoreilly retweets more than every two hours. He's the king of retweets in my book, but a fascinating guy.
- Michael Fidler
There is action of silence in Livejournal for today - in protest against SUP action to cease new basic accounts.
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Interesting to know your opinion about today's news of them giving the basic accounts back (I've just published a post about it on Profy but I think the majority of LJ users will never agree with my point of view).
- Svetlana Gladkova
hmmmm, looks like Jaiku had interesting "time machine" glitch, as I wrote this thing many weeks ago, yet topic of Livejournal is so dear for me that I feel necessary to add more below...
- A.T.
It's not time machine, it's just me searching for what people had to say about basic accounts cancellation back in March. And having LJ topic so dear to oneselfe is soooo Russian :)
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
ahuh, so it floated up on comment ;)
- A.T.
imho Livejournal deserves very special post in general, but with lack of time... While I do not deny money thing, I want to note that other variants could be considered but... It won't. SUP has decided to make mainstream media from LJ, hence makes all steps in that direction, and basic accounts MAY BE stay free for while but eventually this is gonna be 100% MONEY MACHINE WITH NICE ADD-ON FOR POLITICS BRAINWASH. It doesn't match with original Christiania http://tinyurl.com/y7kmfn ideas behind...
- A.T.
Unfortunately, nobody tried really during original and 6apart-part of era to experiment on business level, with other kinds of incomes - hence Fitzpatrick eventually cashed.in from 6apart and gone, and communities were left facing bloody SUP coming to 6apart with stashes of cash... Tragedy of commons in it's classics.
- A.T.
Yes, definitely! I've had a chance to talk to Sup guys in Paris in December days after the acquisition and they actually told the community did not matter and they did not care how many accounts are deleted because of it. Strange they have changed their minds this time and decided to listen to users
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
@profy: if that was their approach, there must have been some effect to the bottom line
- Freylekhe dreydl
@gmarketer юноша, пойдите потролльте где-то в другом месте... вот же планктон офисный, совсем нюх потеряли...
- A.T.
@Alex: Well, at least I was shocked to hear a CEO talking like this about its users like this. But I guess when some point is reached and you start to lose money heavily because of the users' revolt, you just can't help but listen to them.
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
A-list blogger told me off about FriendFeed last night. Said that FF isn't a good business strategy for bloggers who want to get paid for their work. I told him that attitude is exactly why I am spending so much time there.
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gets to why bloggers are whining about commenting behaviors moving off of their blogs and onto FF.
- Robert Scoble
"Adapt or become irrelevant" should be the mantra of everyone in technology-based fields. Progress waits for no man.
- Mark Trapp
Pinned to Jack Kerouac's wall to inspire his writing: "Art is the highest task and the proper metaphysical activity of this life."-Nietzsche
- Thomas Hawk
Who cares where comments are made as long as they are made.
- Steve Hall
from twhirl
What was the A-lister's favorite community site? Twitter or Facebook?
- Phil G
I'm being a little spammy here, but I posted some thoughts about that before: Ten FriendFeed Visitors Beats 1,000 StumbleUpons Any Day http://tinyurl.com/455lol
- Hutch Carpenter
I find myself as A FF user visting more links and seeing more blog pages than I ever did before. What about it isn't a "good business strategy" according to this nameless A-lister? Sounds like he/she isn't all that perceptive.
- Brian Sullivan
Steve: if you are being paid for page views it matters a lot.
- Robert Scoble
Do we get to play guess the A-lister?
- Cyndy
Sorry but I have to disagree. If I posted some content on my blog, I'd like the discussion about it to be focused on that website. FF commentary feels like a hidden backchannel sometimes
- Daniel Spisak
from twhirl
I realized this on day 0. Removing conversation from my blog = Less adsense. We went through the same thing when RSS hit.. .now we have ads in RSS.
- Bwana ☠
@Brian - I agree on reading more blogs via FriendFeed than I would have normally.
- Hutch Carpenter
Scott, Wordpress has a plugin that does that, and there is development of a similar plugin/module for Drupal and Blogger.
- Mark Trapp
Fantastic Robert!
- Parth Awasthi
from twhirl
One of these days we'll have a viable micro-payment system and when we comment or click "Like" anywhere on the tubez we'll also be paying $0.002 to the originator.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
Pageviews shouldn't be a concern if you're producing good content -- especially if you're an A-list blogger. If you're NOT producing good content as an A-list then you're just trying to live off your "fame". It's like crappy music artists who keep putting out crappy music and people still love it.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
hmmm... ads on FF next?
- Ron Emrick
from Alert Thingy
Scott brings up a good point. If they have RSS, they already lost "pageviews" but subscriber counts are supposedly important. Why is it that the conversation on FriendFeed would not add to the quality of their blog? They would never turn off their RSS feed, so I think this seems a little hypocritical.
- Rob Diana
Didn't Dave Winer say that he thought "professional blogger" was an oxymoron (or words to that effect). Maybe that reality is just coming home to roost?
- Brian Sullivan
I have always found it interesting when people rail against progress because it hurts their business model, why not simply adapt your model?
- Karen Swim
from Alert Thingy
@scoble: Its tottaly bugging me that my comments are on friendfeed! Its my ego at play for sure. Actually did blog post today about it: http://britneymason.com/?p=139 But that being said, im getting more feedback then ever..so its a give and take I guess
- Dave Peck
Couldn't care less - not making money off my blog, and I'm sure I have more people reading my blog DUE to FF than in spite of it...
- Jeremy Toeman
FriendFeed is surely much better for bloggers that feed readers are. It makes users more likely to click links (partially because full feed content isn't included) and discover new blogs. And seeing an interesting discussion on FF makes me even more likely to click through to the article. How is that bad?
- Tony Ruscoe
from fftogo
So many A-list bloggers are long overdue for an adjustment - the hubris is astonishing. Ballmer-esque, really.
- Noah Carter
"Hubris Ballmer-esque" -- great phrase -- can I use it?
- Brian Sullivan
When I read a blog, I don't waste any brain cells worrying how the author is getting compensated for the article posted. He (or she) should've figured that strategy out before I got there. If the content isn't compelling me to view the page, then there's another topic for the author to contemplate.
- William Beem
Scott, that's cool, but I'm not interested until it's ubiquitous and much less than $0.10. I want it to be so inexpensive I can "tip" folks all day long and not hurt my finances. If millions of us do that all day some folks will be making serious cash.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
I would say it is exactly the reverse of his statement. Shall we extract him (her) from the A-list ? :)
- Charlie Anzman
It will always be about the conversation. Have an informed opinion; be different; work hard; contribute. If I find someone out there I like, I will seek to grab as much information about him/her as possible. Blogging will never die because (if done well) it is the most introspective and personal medium: two areas that will become increasingly important as we get deeper into Web 2.0, 3.0 and beyond.
- Blake N. Cooper
That said, check out my blog :) http://www.stagekid.com (a joke, people... well not really)
- Blake N. Cooper
While bloggers get less pageviews due to comments moving away to aggregators, they gain much wider exposure which leads to more pageviews. Bottom line, the total number of pageviews stays the same or even increases with the added value of having more unique views, which has more value.
- Amit Morson
@Brian please do.
- Noah Carter
I was wondering, does anyone know if there's a way to make the comments from FriendFeed automatically also show up in the relevant blog? Similar to how we can check a box to duplicate a post on Twitter? Would that maybe solve the problem? If it's possible to do, that is.
- Kamilah Gill
My opinions here have been well documented. Over time, this will get easier and, eventually, solved.
- Louis Gray
Kamilah, I expect to see that happening eventually with Disqus. I know they are working on it - implement disqus on your blog and it will come.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
being pragmatic, but page views is a dying business model within blogging. The blog is about personal branding and then you sell yourself as a service thereafter. Words and thoughts are commodities.
- morten saxnaes
there's revenue associated with blogging??? :)
- anna sauce
Tad, I'm really active on Tipjoy, and it doesn't cost too much. You can tune it to $0.05, which is really cheap. You can tip 100 times daily for less than a big Starbucks coffee. For just $1 per day, you too can support this starving internet :D
- Ivan Kirigin
FF is more for combining the work of others into a feed for yourself -- and combining all of your work into a single feed for others to consume. Has nothing to do with blogging imo.
- xero
@Ivan - You better be active on TipJoy! @Tad I tuned TipJoy to $0.05 and use it when I come across someone with the buttons that writes something I like. I probably should use the bookmarklet to help spread the word, but I'm getting too many of those things. Hopefully now that TipJoy is on friendfeed we'll see a increase in usage
- David Knight
@David the problem with TipJoy is you are limited to sending the money to charity or getting Amazon gift cards - sorry but that doesn't work for folks that just might want to use it as an alternative monitization method or donations
- Steven Hodson
@Steven the cashing out issue is one that would be faced by any startup in our position - thanks to the regulatory framework around money transfer agents. It will be solved really soon, and we're trying to be very open about it. Also, we do let non-profits & platforms cash out.
- Ivan Kirigin
If I had to document all the ways Friendfeed has be AWESOME for me, I'd have to write a book ... and it's barely out of the gate. Spoke with 3 people on the phone today that said they couldn't get enough
- Charlie Anzman
Since I started using FF I actually see more comments on my blog and absolutely no impact on my (meager) advertising take.
- Frederic
Amen, keep hittin' em hard out there.
- Aaron Myers
I like FF, too. It's a great way to meet people, and it is driving traffic back to my blog.
- Bill Sodeman
Many readers like FF. Blogger vs. Reader = Readers win. Always. (If not, they go somewhere else)
- Pat Hawks
@Jesse Thanks, I'll have to look into Disqus. I've seen the name around but I know nothing about it.
- Kamilah Gill
Bandwidth is very dear here in Hobart. I bought 7 days at the hotel for $90 but I've already used up my 500MB and now it's 10¢/meg more.
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It'd be interesting IMO to find out what line(s) there is/are with the mainland.
- Nicholas Helke
WHEN will hotels realise that by charging us stupid fees for (usually crappy, unreliable, fairly slow) internet access is actually just disrespecting their customers?
- Liam Cassidy
It seems the same everywhere outside of the US. I was in Spain and ran into the same problem
- Chris Patterson
You know, Doc Searl's blogged about this a few days ago, it's exactly what we're talking about in terms of the way the hotels are screwing customers with lacklustre, expensive broadband access. Check it out http://tinyurl.com/3dcsw7
- Liam Cassidy
hotel internet in Seoul Korea is mind boggling and cheap
- Jerome Gotangco
i did a two week tour of australia. it's atrocious how expensive and slow their internet is. almost as bad as the $30 hotel breakfast buffet.
- claudio rivera
April Fools! Leo really went to Tarzana not Tasmania
- Randi
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impressive, keep going that way!
- Marek
if there would be one thing to tempt into developing again it would be to play with this .. but no .. no ... I'll leave that to others
- Steven Hodson
My original remote key had the word "dumb" in it. It made me smile, but I reset it anyway :) PS: Oops, after another reset of the key I get the first error: it says "502 Bad Gateway ... nginx/0.6.24" (at https://friendfeed.com/account...) PPS: Now it works again.
- Philipp Lenssen
congrats!
- Frederic
Congratulations! :-)
- Jess Lee
Congrats! Please clarify - what is the maximum number of entries returned per fetch?
- Aviv
100 entries is the current maximum. We would prefer applications request the default number (30) unless there is a compelling reason to request more.
- Bret Taylor
So very awesome, great work guys!
- Glenn Slaven
Wow, amazing how fast you guys get stuff done.
- Ryan W
Love it. If only all APIs would come with a pre-wrapped PHP class. Why does the PHP class not precede functions with public or private by the way?
- Philipp Lenssen
You guys rock! I have a few ideas for extending and improving, though with how fast you all iterate I'm afraid my ideas are going to clash with your roadmap.
- Clint
Bret's news knocked my news off of the top of Techmeme today. It's on!
- DeWitt Clinton
Bret, just out of curiosity: on what technology stack the FF is built?
- Dmitriy Kopylenko
@Dmitriy: I believe the site is written in Python. No clue about database, server, or anything else. But I thought I'd answer with what I know (er, think I know ;-).
- Voyagerfan5761
Pretty sure it's MySQL, I think I've seen them talk about it before, and they are definitely using nginx as a frontend
- Benjamin Golub
I remember seeing some nginx (http server) errors a few days after they launched (edit: oops, just saw Benjamin's reference to nginx)
- Aviv
@Voyagerfan Thanks. Would be interesting to know if it's Django or just vanilla Python
- Dmitriy Kopylenko
Not Django, I asked that question a while back (when FF first opened up in beta). It is their own Python framework
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks Benjamin. Is there any reason to "roll your own", here?
- Dmitriy Kopylenko
I'm glad you posted a link for us non-techies so we could find out what the heck an API is/does! I'm excited to see what developers will come up with....I'm crossing my fingers for friendfeed mobile so I can easily use FF on my blackberry.
- Emily Miller
I really enjoyed the Python API. I have just added FF support to http://eventseer.net, an academic event tracker written in Django... Allows you to share the conferences and people you're keeping track of on FF. Thanks!
- Thomas Brox Røst
Agree with Emily Miller. FriendFeed mobile! I can read FriendFeed on mobile, but can't like or comment anything.
- Ontario Emperor
@emilymiller: if your phone supports IM you can use the jabber buddy friendfeed@imified.com to post comments to FF. We're still looking for some feedback on what other IM integrations make sense and are open to some feedback
- Anthony Webb
Yes, when you have to write custom SQL, the benefits of a framework start to fade away.
- Benjamin Golub
The real roadblocks to data portability on social networks - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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wii sucks.. novelty wears off after 2 days and half the games dont support the controllers properly
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about novelty... same applies to any console :)
- A.T.
@silpol No, it really doesn't. Certainly not to the degree of the Wii. There's zero gameplay depth in Wii games these days. It's fine if you're just a person that wants to play Wii Sports every so often, but as a gamer... it's downright insulting.
- Jason Carter
@JC well, but there is one little thing - major market is not hardcore gamers.
- A.T.
I thought I would tire of it quickly. But almost every night, for the past two weeks, my wife and I have been spending 1-2 hours playing mostly Wii Play. Or sometimes just making assorted Miis or doing a puzzle of one of our photos. And the fact that I'm doing this, rather than playing my 360 upstairs, amazes me. And I'm actually playing with my stepdaughter, usually Tennis or Bowling. And she hasn't wanted to play videogames with me in years.
- Bill Bittner
@silpol You don't need to be a hardcore gamer to be bored of gameplay that gets repetitive after 5 minutes.
- Jason Carter
@JC probably I have somewhat other environment
- A.T.
I've heard the same complaint from many parents @ the local GameStop. Kids like it but put it down in a month 'cause it's repetitive - then they want a DS or PSP. There are always exceptions, and with the large user-base, one would expect anecdotal evidence to support pockets of people who really enjoy it, but the prevalence of this trend is supported by the low attach rate.
- Casey Sheldon
I guess my wife is different. She can go on Pogo and play the slot machine game over, and over, and over. And all you do there is click. I myslef do enjoy Play and Sports. But as far as regular games, there aren't a whole heck of a lot I'm dying to get, aside from Mario and Metroid. And that may be enough for me.
- Bill Bittner
Your wife's on Pogo all the time too, huh, Bill?
- Jason Carter
My wife and I enjoy wii sports, but after that, nothing really touches the interactive capabilities. My wife loves Mario Galaxy, but the extent of action in that game is shaking your wrist....boring..
- dan
Yes she is, Jason. And the funny thing is my boss is insanely rich and lives in a big mansion. And his wife plays Pogo all the time too.
- Bill Bittner
I've spent too much time dicking around with FriendFeed. Now I'll have to bicycle into work instead of walking.
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Yeah. Aren't these "tools" supposed to save you time rather than help you waste it?
- Alex von Halem
Information Overload is the new reality, huh.
- David Risley
I have just not got hooked on FriendFeed or like sites, I need to spend more time on them but I don't. I still goto my newspapers online, click on links in my newletters I receive in my email and listen to streaming talk stations around the country and podcast.
- Scott
Today I am taking photos at Pillow Fight NY in Union Square. For one hour people will take the streets in a pillow fight. Feathers galore!
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We just talked with Leo Laporte and he might come to the Wine and Web 2.0 party tonight. This is going to be fun!
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The Next Chapter - http://leoville.com/2008...
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I really like this concept he has and it could prove to be very interesting I think
- Steven Hodson
Just posted my thoughts on the next iteration for TWiT on my blog, http://leoville.com/blog - and the first video of the new studio space.
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I wonder if Rick Astley has been been rick-rolled yet
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That might cause a wormhole effect from which he may not recover
- Mark Krynsky
Lol, valid question. We should contact him
- Rami Taibah
That would rip apart the fabric of the universe
- Luis Figueiredo
Malkovich, Malkovich?
- Tony, Paradox of FF
I'm waiting for somebody to hire Rick to do an in-person rick-roll
- Bill Bittner
FAIL often, FAIL early! http://failblog.wordpress.com/ Funny!!!
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TOO FUNNY!!!
- Paula Hawk
Oh my God this is funny. Possibly not work safe... I was laughing so hard that it was embarrassing! Had to stop at the second page. Epic Fail.
- Daniel Shaw
Funny, but dangerous. It somehow makes failure seem so appealing.
- Justin Davey
Comscore reports that Google searches are down 6% in February. Of course, February had 6% fewer days. Don't they teach math anymore?
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maybe thats why i always seem to be poor in March!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
I made the exact same comment the minute I read that. And Silicon Alley Insider didn't do the math either.
- Jeff Bonforte
lol
- The Product Guy
(NON) 2: Kerming - http://s-nonblog.blogspot.com/2008...
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1,000,000+ people who dislike George Bush! - http://www.facebook.com/group...
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Oh, blindliness getting less opaque :) Finally :) - http://zerojay.jaiku.com/presenc...
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Toskala Lets In a BAD Bouncing Goal - NYI vs TOR-Mar 18 08 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Fuck the Leafs!
- Jason Carter
Go Isles! lol
- Izzy
@DougH Everything I do promotes everything else I do. I don't worry about money; I just presume if I create good content I'll earn a living.
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Help FriendFeed convert the skeptics! Vote "Yes, FriendFeed's a great service" here: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
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Wow, have to say I'm surprised at all the negativity....how could someone *not* like friendfeed?
- Benjamin Golub
Don't sweat Duncan Riley. He's like Mikey from the old life cereal commercial. He hates everything. In any case, I don't utilize services just cause the cool kids are there. I utilize them because they are useful. And FriendFeed is a useful tool for keeping track of 'people' as opposed to just subscribing to a blog. More at http://blog.awakenedvoice.com/2008....
- Rob Safuto
"As the chart I pulled from FriendFeed demonstrates, nearly half of all entries from my friends come from Twitter." Truth be told if half the entries I'd see here were from Twitter I wouldn't like Friendfeed either. So I guess it depends on your subscriptions (though of course it will be improved once the global-mutings-of-a-type-of-feed are implemented on the user settings page).
- Philipp Lenssen
I like FriendFeed for the fact that it is introducing me to more people with the "friend of" feature. It's extending the conversation to a wider group of people.
- Steven Melfi
I voted Yes, Friendfeed wins hands down on coverage of services, UI, and performance and most of all the private commenting community is rich, you are really on to something here, all the inane YouTube style comments are gone from here because you actually know the people or have few degrees of separation - this is a great product
- Aneto
Duncan Riley signed up for one day. It takes more than a few minutes to get FriendFeed. But he's TC's resident grump.
- Louis Gray
Can we impose a rule that you can't review services like FriendFeed unless you've been using the service for at least a week? Duncan brings up a few decent points but it reminds me of all of those MSM journalists who reviewed Twitter based on a quick glance at the Twitter home page.
- Mike Doeff
I have a truly marvelous point-by-point debunking of this post which this margin is too narrow to contain.
- j1m
"Can we impose a rule that you can't review services like FriendFeed unless you've been using the service for at least a week?" I think that's hardly feasible for a blog with multiple posts per day... imagine the blogger having to use dozens of crappy services throughout the week (we know FF isn't crappy, but some other services may be)! Of course, even if you use something just for a...
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- Philipp Lenssen
PS: On the other hand, there may well be a blogging niche for someone only actually doing a couple of used-for-a-week reviews per week. It would not be a news blog but a review blog. Hmm. It's easier if you are a niche blog focusing only on one company, I guess, because then you can take the time to use the company's tool for much longer stretches of time.
- Philipp Lenssen
Hopefully this helps. http://tinyurl.com/2nfuer (I threw a Trackback as well)
- Louis Gray
Voted. It is indeed a great service. Concept, UI, speed makes it a perfect.. Check it at least 3 times a day.
- Zoltan Szendro
Voted Yes.
- Carlo Maglinao
The poll's a little disappointing. The choices equate to 'I haven't heard of FriendFeed' 'I like FriendFeed' and 'I might try FriendFeed' but the results are framed as 'FriendFeed is not good, good, or undecided'. Sigh.
- Kevin Fox
Still, it's an honest comment. Taking the devil's advocate stance can force people to view their choices in a different light. However, putting the survey at the end of such a blatantly negative article is definitely going to bias the outcome... if you could ever consider the survey "valid" in the first place.
- Steve Lynch
Eh, you win some you lose some. You guys are lucky we covered you twice. I'm sure nobody here would be complaining if I had put that poll at the end of my post:http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
- Erick Schonfeld
In other words, take both posts together, and there's your balance. Anyway, blogs are not about balance. they are about strongly held convictions. And Duncan keeps us honest at TC with his.
- Erick Schonfeld
"You guys are lucky we covered you twice" What stones you have! Are you so deluded that you think TechCrunch can make or break a company with a blog post?
- Rob Safuto
I'm not complaining; I just care deeply about quantitative research methodologies. Anyway, one post was "FriendFeed News, here's an analysis" and the other was "FriendFeed sucks, I'm trying to stir up controversy."
- Steve Lynch
Duncan's post actually reminded me of a Paul Saffo Long Now lecture on predictions: it's always a safe bet to take the other side when people are proclaiming the Next Big Thing. Look how it's driving traffic to his article.
- Steve Lynch
When people start complaining about you, think you have arrived
- Varun Mahajan
Rob: lol. =Chris
- j1m
I think friendfeed is great for sharing, but it's also a good way of reliving your web history. I like going back and seeing the links I have posted, especially where they have images.
- David Tapper
my tiny little gift for FF - bookmarklet in Java, put into your browser bookmarks and use for sharing, tetsed on FireFox, it works! javascript:location.href='http://friendfeed.com/share...
- A.T.
A.T. there's an official bookmarklet, http://friendfeed.com/share...
- David Vasileff
Interview with Bret Taylor from Friendfeed
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Thanks for a great link to a great interview!! I'm excited about the API, sounds like it will open up more features that would blast friendfeed forward even more than the hype it's getting already.
- Aaron Holverson
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