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“for the birds”
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September 6 at 12:41 pm - Link
Beautiful...wow - Anna Haro
لایک برای همه / ولی مخصوصا آخرین عکس - Amir GT
i do not care about the pets and animals but ...this...Great..nice - zos
واقعا خدا چه کرده - Amir GT
reshared. It's wonderful. - Ester "hoshimem" Memoli
Those are incredible! - Alix Whitmire ƸӜƷ
Breathtaking! - Éric Senterre
Amazing photos! - Daynah
Sure is amazing what you get from a primordial soup! - Sean McGee
Incredible photos! Fantastic. - Louis Trapani
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John McCain's Wandering Eyes
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August 31 at 8:39 pm - Link
No wonder she looks so uncomfortable around him - Lindsey Smith
the face he makes at 35 seconds in is priceless - Cee Bee
Heh. Jason noticed that as well. - Cyndy
theres something freudian about the ring finger massage while staring at her. - Carlos Ayala
I wonder if he still ends up sleeping on the couch :) - Steven Hodson
That's what I was thinking, Carlos. It also seemed as if he was reading over her shoulder to make sure she didn't stray from the speech. - Yolanda
What song is that? - trextor
I bet I could find a similar picture of Obama and Biden ;) - Jesse Stay
that was straight out of a "Curb your enthusiasm" episode ... classic. - Morgan
LOL That's awesome. He was contemplating removing his wedding ring :) She is a fairly attractive older woman so can't really blame him. - ·[▪_▪]·
Not Obama and Biden, but here's a good one of Obama and Hilary: http://www.product-reviews.net... ;) - Jesse Stay via twhirl
Even better - Biden's wife: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Jesse Stay via twhirl
This whole thing is so transparent and laughable. Four years from now, we might as well do the presidential election "American Idol style". - Bob Blunk
So uhhhhh, when are you guys going to start voting for 3rd party candidates? - Rudolf Olah
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Menomenah song!
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July 23 at 7:53 pm - Link
I played this video for my one-year-old niece the other day and she could not stop laughing. That was the plan. - Steve Rubel
No! Not the puppets again! please! :) (I swear I'm kidding) - directeur via NoiseRiver
OH G-D not again - now im going to be freaking singing this all night and i need to go to sleep now!!! DAMN YOU WINER! and here i just interviewed your company yesterday! yet i cant stop watching - Allen Stern
This is a song we sing with the kids all the time. I do the mamomena part and the kids to the "do do do do" part Oops. they say the thumbnail on the screen and want to see it right now :) - Christian Burns
This is a song often sung in our house - kids love it! - Bora Zivkovic
There's a town in New Jersey that always makes me sing this: Manalapan do doo do doo do Manalapan Doo do do doo.... - George Smith
CAKE did a cover of this song on their "B-Sides and Rarities" album, give it a listen here: http://www.last.fm/music/Cake/... - Haggis (Sean)
:D - edythe
Haggis I am now dizzy from watching that cover video :) - Allen Stern
Dave is evil... this will be stuck in my head for days now... Thanks Dave!! - Les Zaldor
I had this stuck in my head all day today as well... No good! - Justin Korn
ok - now im about to lose it - ive been whistling this song for 50 minutes - how will i get to bed now - dave you are getting a noogie when we meet! - Allen Stern
OK, let's see: Menomenah! - Björn Brembs
ABSOLUTELY LOOOOOOOOOOVVVVE IT! - Jes Tu
One of my son's favorites these days. In addition, have a look at the Muppets' Hugga Wugga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Ansgar Wollnik
ok - so the train took forever to come, it's humid and the only thing that kept me smiling was singing this song - people probably thought i was a bit nutty from all the smiling :) - Allen Stern
Love it - Natallini
I remember there was an even better one at the time where he goes totally insane at the end - does someone have a link to this one? - Denise Young
Being a Steeler fan, I'm more partial to this slightly different take: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... ;) - Steve
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Dave Hussein Winer posted a message
“Tease: indenti.ca will become a lot more useful later today. :-)”
July 17 at 1:07 pm - Link
identi.ca is still nothing more than a Twitter clone best I can tell. A step back from FF. Not sure why anyone would want to spend time there when we've got this. - Thomas Hawk
Tease: And even more so in the coming months. Spoke with Evan last night and there are some interesting things on their way. - Austin Hill
I personally think it will be interesting to see what identi.ca does to differetiate itself from twitter - Mike Hamilton
@Thomas - Twitter clone hasn't begun to cover what's possible. I think that's like calling Wordpress a Blogger clone back in 2004. I wish the Twitter guys all the best, but there is a lot of innovation to come in Microblogging, Lifecasting and Activity stream aggregation. Twitter seems to have it's hands full scaling and I'd love to see some innovation on features in the market place. I think identi.ca will be part of that market for innovation. - Austin Hill
Why should identi.ca differentiate itself? It's really about recognizing that federating status updates should become a "taken-for-granted" part of social infrastructure. Next step is Interop with Twitter, not differentiation. - Chris Messina
Austin, but isn't identi.ca a step back from FriendFeed really? Why spend any time there? - Thomas Hawk
I don't want to "like" the post, but I do want to "like" chris messina's comment :) - Karl
Intriguing. - Vincent X
@davew, YouAre.com sounds much better than identi.ca. Check http://www.inquisitr.com/1745/... - Alex Sauceda
I know what it is! David Winer has found out that identi.ca has turned into a wishing well and he's keeping it to himself. I'm going to like this so he remembers who his friends are :-) - Jonas Anderson
"With today's addition to Identica, you can now follow people!" - Bryan Woods
One reason I spend more time on identica and less and less on FF is comments like 'Eh ? It's just a Twitter clone.' - Andy C
evan did say last week that a Twitter-compatible API was on track for this week. Hopefully, that's the news. And it's NOT about a twitter clone; it's about making microblogging an open standard -- like email -- that allows you to use your access method of choice (local client, web, mobile, etc.) Interoperability to microblogging will FREE it! Remember MCImail? cc:mail? Remember Profs? Remember VAX All-in-1-mail? All frontrunners in the email channel. All closed. All dead (or on life support). - Bundini
I am waiting to see who is the first one to fall. After Twitter bought Summerize and their increasing stability I doubt it will be them. Obviously it won't be Friendfeed either. - Parvez Halim via feedalizr
The TwitterAPI is already available on identi.ca and in the darcs repository. maybe something else? - Markus Heurung
Parvez - increased traffic to admire the new Ajax has brought the fail whale back (again). Got any stock tips you want to share ? - Andy C
Bundini: I hope that's what it is. Related post: http://scripting.com/stories/2... - Vincent X
Come on Dave - apart from the Twitter compatible API which was already in the public domain, precisely what was the exciting, new development on identi.ca yesterday ? SMS, a desktop client for identi.ca, replies that cite the correct post - what ? - Andy C
@Thomas Hawk - Why do you see FriendFeed as a step forward from Twitter? FriendFeed is something different - you can't really compare the two when you look at the core use case. - sebmos
@Thomas: as someone who never really got into twitter, I thought the same as you. However, after becoming addicted to ff, I began using twitter more as a great way to post messages to my ff (there are just so many ways to get things *in* to twitter). I'm rooting for identi.ca, though, simply because i think it will one day do all that twitter does using an open source system. That, and I have no real follower base on twitter to worry about abandoning anyway. - Trent Olson
i like identi.ca much more than twitter, http://www.readwriteweb.com/ar... - Muge Cerman
I also use Twitter primarily as a way of posting onto FF, with the bonus that my followers on Twitter who haven't moved across the FF (still a majority) get the message two. I'll move to identi.ca if there are people there I want to share ideas with, not because of features... well... unless they're killer! - David Sim
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“Dear FF. I'd like the feature: time of each comment”
July 11 at 11:39 pm - Link
Use fftogo to get relative times of comments. (Yes, you can use fftogo on non-mobile devices.) - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
I think Igor's point is that, we used to have "time of each comment" and they took the feature away. I'd like it back too. - Dread Pirate PJ via NoiseRiver
By the way, Igor, NoiseRiver has this feature too. - Dread Pirate PJ via NoiseRiver
@Dread Now I see the time of that FF post not FF comment ones:( - Igor Poltavskiy
@Dread Thx for NoiseRiver tip:) - Igor Poltavskiy
@Ontario Thx for tip - Igor Poltavskiy
How about re-add it as a hover alt-text on the comment graphic? - Ryan Gallagher
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July 9 at 5:28 pm - Link
lolaporte - Evan Sims
Hilarious. - Randy
Loved it. - Anthony K. Valley © via twhirl
Nice - Saul Mora via twhirl
You sound and look just like my physics professor!! HILLARIUS!! - NSS
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July 7 at 10:20 am - Link
"Responded on my blog here: http://thomashawk.com/2008/07/... ..." - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, I think your response makes a lot of sense. It is wrong for people to sell your photos without your permission, but how is there enough time in the day to police the internet yourself? - Bryan Clark
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Erschreckend. Schlimm genug, wenn irgendwelche Script-Kiddies ganze U-Boot-Flotten kommandieren, aber Kaffeemaschinen manipulieren? Das geht entschieden zu weit! - Thomas Frütel
Geil. Also wenn die Kaffemaschine mal wieder ekelhaftes Gebräu ausspuckt, liegt es nicht etwa am NoName-Kinderarbeitskaffee, sondern an den Hackern :). Schäuble, bitte eingreifen. Heute Kaffeemaschinen, morgen Flugmaschinen... - Ryo
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July 7 at 11:35 am - Link
Just watched this movie last week, I really enjoyed it and even though it takes place in the near future, the storyline was very believable/acceptable due to it tying in to issues we currently see in society. It wasn't what I expected, it actually was a bit better than I had hoped. - cmiper
This movie is fabulous. Like Blade Runner/Apacolypse Now fabulous IMO. Too bad it got a bad shake in theaters. - Steve Gillette via twhirl
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July 4 at 12:49 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Gute Idee - Kommentare auf FriendFeed auch im Blog anzeigen zu lassen. Aber beim Aktivieren ist mir WordPress jetzt zweimal abgestürzt. Hat jemand dieses PlugIn schon installiert bekommen? - conosco via Bookmarklet
Bei mir läuft es (Wordpress 2.51). Allerdings muss man die Kommentare manuell updaten, automatisch scheint es nicht zu gehen. - Thomas Frütel
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July 3 at 7:20 am - Link
somebody's got a thing for pandas this morning. - Thomas Hawk
wow, I think i need to brush my teeth after seeing those! So sweet and cute! - Neil Creek via twhirl
بخاطر همين خرسهاي پاندا هم كه شده بايد يه سر برم چين.الهييييييييييييييييييييييييييييييي - mhmazidi
amazing, they look realy cute - dan
I thought those were stuffed animals at first. What is the story behind these pictures? I assume it has something to do with the earthquake and panda sanctuaries in China. - JP Landry
That's more cute than should be allowed by law. - Roger Benningfield
I think those shots would look better in black and white :-) - Tom Quinn
cuteness overload! - Anna Haro
Look out... They may know Kung Fu. - Lurking Grue
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July 2 at 11:42 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
two new features... let me know what you think! - Jason Calacanis via Bookmarklet
is mahalo basically just a for profit wikipedia? Why would someone want to create a page there? What would be the motivation? - Thomas Hawk
What makes this different from WIkipedia? This seems to make it virtually identical - unless the main feature is that you guys have the paid employees to verify research, and of course, the great Mahalo guide articles. - Andru Edwards
Thomas: great question. a) we pay folks who are working for us if they want, b) there are folks with a vested interest in certain pages (i.e. you might care about Canon 5D page or the Thomas Hawk page), c) some folks like to contribute, d) Mahalo is creative commons, so some folks like to contribute to free content projects like Mahalo/wikipedia because it makes the world better, e) some folks hate to see error and get good feeling fixing them. - Jason Calacanis
Andru: excellent question. Mahalo is VERY similar to wikipedia except: a) we have human curated search results with the wikipedia style page, b) we don't do 6,000 word articles we do 200-600 word summaries with fast facts, etc. basically we do scanable wikipedia pages which are more efficient, c) we cover non-encyclopedic information, wikipedia does not (i.e. we both have Paris, but only mahalo has Paris Hotels), d) we fact check our information, wikipedia does not. - Jason Calacanis
Personally I think it might be better if only registered users could edit (with valid email addresses), to help prevent abuse, etc. - Vincent X
Vincent X: we've had it setup that way for months now. it creates a massive hurdle for people getting involved so we're trying a more open system now. - Jason Calacanis
Hey Jason, great answers. I someone didn't "get" the fact that you guys just have the quick summary as opposed to the huge pages that Wikipedia has sometimes. So even though both allow anyone to edit, and both can be research tools, there is a significant difference between the two. - Andru Edwards
Andru Edwards: exactly... our pages are a) better Google/Yahoo result combined with a b) a better wikipedia page. So, we're taking the two best experiences on the planet (google & wikipedia), and putting them on the same page while making each 2x better. I think it's a compelling page to start your research on. Highly recommend going to the homepage an opening up the first couple of pages, then click on a couple of links in the guide note for each page. you'll see its a really cool experience for research. - Jason Calacanis
If I wanted information from an encyclopedia I would actually get one out or find one. I don't see Mahalo as an encyclopedia. I see it as a search engine to find latest news stories, resources on new and social media and the "internet subculture". I am not a Wikipedia user because I never liked the fact the pages can be edited by anyone and, the incorrect edits aren't always caught in time. Mahalo seems to have a better system than Wikipedia when it comes to checking and ensuring user edits are correct. - Candace Holly
Jason - Are you worried that this might open up Mahalo to being 'gamed' of a sort? I always liked the fact that Mahalo is people-powered, and helps prevent SEO, or 'gaming' of the system. I'm assuming this is the type of thing that eventually the community continues to fix? They will weed out the bad stuff, and leave the good stuff to filter up? - Adam Hosp
I made a Thomas Hawk page but it feels confusing. http://www.mahalo.com/Thomas_h... I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I don't know how to get my last name capitalized or to add more biographical information, etc. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas Hawk: yes, it is a little confusing, just like making a wikipedia page is. we're trying to make it easier. You've done a great job so far... add some fast facts and a couple of more links and you've got a great start to a page! - Jason Calacanis
how do I capitalize my last name? - Thomas Hawk
Here's a great place to test the service. The FriendFeed page can use quite a bit of content additions, especially in the Tools area http://www.mahalo.com/FriendFe... - Mark Krynsky
Thomas: changing the name of a page is something only we can do... at least right now. we will fix it. Also, check out the additions i made to your page... i added a quote, your stated life goal, and put a citation on it with the <ref> tag - Jason Calacanis
Wait - so I can just go in and create an Andru Edwards page on Mahalo, and that is okay? Unlike how that is against Wikipedia rules? - Andru Edwards
Adam Hosp: i'm not worried at all because Mahalo has 60 full-time fact checkers.... anyone who tries to game the system will get caught really quickly. - Jason Calacanis
hmm... ok, added a few more links as well. Can I upload a photo of me for my Thomas Hawk page? - Thomas Hawk
This is the next step in what I've been saying since day 1 - that Mahalo would have to open up more and more to be able to compete - the question is whether people will actually want to do it. Thomas, once you create your page, it will push up very quickly to the top of google for your name - are you sure you are ok with that? - Allen Stern
Thomas Hawk: we haven't given users the ability to add photos yet... that's coming. - Jason Calacanis
Andru: just created it. http://www.mahalo.com/Andru_ed... so, yes, anyone can create any page (within reason). and yes, you can edit your own page (but we will check it for bias of course). - Jason Calacanis
Another question to toss out since you noted almost anyone can make their own pages within reason. Obviously this would push them up to practically the top of search engines. Do you think that could actually become a tool for smaller companies to use for SEO and promoting themselves on the web? - Candace Holly
I am not sure about adding a page but wish you'd clean up the front page a bit; Looks like old style. Consider feedly's look for a way to do the featured stories. - LPH™
Cool, I'm now Thomas Hawk with a capital "H", thanks Jason. If they can add my profile photo this is the one that I like to use: http://www.flickr.com/photos/t... - Thomas Hawk
LPH: new homepage coming... i agree 100%!!!! thanks for feedback. - Jason Calacanis
Sure, happy to have a page Allen, what's wrong with having it push to the top of Google? Why would someone not want that? - Thomas Hawk
Candace Holly: actually, our "stub" pages are NOFOLLOW/NOINDEX on Google/Yahoo until they are really built out (i.e. 200-400 original words). So, yes these *might* be good for whitehat SEO for companies, but not in the short term.. only if they become pages of value... which we decide. We thought about that... good you did too! :-) - Jason Calacanis
Do these payed people only check facts? Or do they actually help mahalo grow up (by adding new articles and more content on existing articles)? - Marcos Marado via fftogo
Thanks for the answer.Thinking on my own train of thought here... that could be a pretty good tool. If a small company/person has something relevant to offer and talk about they could easily have a page on Mahalo. This could also cause them to use Mahalo more often knowing it's a bit more "everyone friendly" in terms of user created content. - Candace Holly
Question for Jason - After this dialog, what's your impression of FriendFeed? - Charlie Anzman
Hi :-) Small question: Why are the login and sign up button hidden and require JavaScript to be visible? - Horst Gutmann
Thomas Hawk: I just added your picture it should show up in a few minutes... - C. K. Sample III
Thanks C.K. Looks good! - Thomas Hawk
Horst: looking into it. Candace: we would love to have more people and companies participate and build their pages out in Mahalo. So, yes, it is a great idea for folks to do this (provided they are not hated... then that stuff might get put on your page! :-) - Jason Calacanis
@Jason thank you :-) - Horst Gutmann
I've just gotta say, the fact that you can create and edit your own page (or the page of your own business) is fantastic. They have people in place to heck for bias, but other than that, you are free to put yourself and your brand(s) on Mahalo? Nice. I know people who tried to correct misinformation on Wikipedia pages about themselves, only to be banned for doing so. - Andru Edwards
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Dave Hussein Winer posted an entry on Scripting News
July 2 at 11:44 am - Link
Do they have "track"? XMPP? - Ken Sheppardson
Your permalink for this story (the link on Friend Feed) is 404'ing for some reason, even though the story is clearly visible if you go directly to Scripting News. - Ed Ryan
Okay... Fixed now. - Ed Ryan
Seems a bit slow and CSS wise doesn't like IE7. BTW - I'm http://identi.ca/colinwalker - Colin Walker
The RSS is super-lame. http://bit.ly/2wj3GZ - Dave Hussein Winer
And as it's starting to get traffic guess what -- it's getting slow. :-( - Dave Hussein Winer
I propose we cut identi.ca some slack. It just barely launched. my experince so far is positive. I assuem they'll lclea up the RSS issues. - ron k jeffries
wow, identi.ca has "gone twitter" pretty damn fast - sloooooow. - Dossy Shiobara
Definitely seeing is bog down a bit right now. Here's a link to the source code: http://identi.ca/notice/1637 [If Identi.ca goes down, here's the direct link: http://laconi.ca/laconica-0.4....] - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Not sure if it's an IE thing but can't open the email address confirmation URL. Yes, it was IE - ok in FF3 - Colin Walker
Wow. It's getting pounded now. I'm looking at the PHP source now. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Okay - I'm impressed, OpenID registration flow worked pretty smoothly. XMPP confirmation process worked. - Dossy Shiobara
Interesting, free software is one thing and well and good, but who's paying for the infrastructure and the manpower to watch said infrastructure? Still, it's funny that the software is called laconica, I appreciate that. :) - felix
Blah. "Open source" for a Twitter-like service doesn't mean squat unless there's a server-to-server protocol, like IRC, so one can start up their own server and participate in the "cloud" ... otherwise, you're just standing up lots of islands of attention. Who needs more of _that_? ugh. - Dossy Shiobara
Interesting. The license is a version of the GPL that compels the release of modified source even if its just used to deliver a service. - Erik S
Interesting. I'm thomashawk there. http://identi.ca/thomashawk - Thomas Hawk
@Dossy, there is a server-to-server protocol. The docs are sparse, but it's there. - Dave Hussein Winer
Feels very familiar... with the slow page loading and everything! :) - Yolanda
sbisson there (as everywhere!)... so now we'll see how it goes - Simon Bisson via twhirl
Dave, I just posted a question (waiting for moderation) in the Control Yourself blog http://controlezvous.ca/?p=5 regarding the underlying architecture. I must admit, however, that their interoperability plans sound impressive. - Ontario Emperor
Well, using HTTP POST and OAuth piggibacking doesn't seem like the optimal solution for the server-to-server substrate to me. Why are we constantly reinventing new protocols? We have XMPP with Pub/Sub extensions, we have JXTA... - Vlado Handziski
one can run xmpp over jxta: eg http://collab.netbeans.org ... not sure if that codebase has surfaced or not but i demo'd it at j1 '06 - James Todd
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Ok, this is very nice. - Jannis Leidel
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Twitter: Brad McCrorey posted a message
“Looks like we're back, folks.. Aside from those of you who have decide to defect to <insert site that works here> during the outage.”
June 30 at 8:29 am - Link
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I commented on Dare's blog on this: http://www.25hoursaday.com/web.... Between the blog, Reddit and FF, I'm not sure where to put a comment. Welcome to Web 2.0. - Joe Beda
What's cool (IMHO) is how passionate employees are about defending their respective companies. I have no doubt that the resulting conversation and its impact are among the healthiest ways to grow as a company. - Dimitri Glazkov
I'm still seeing a ton of brain drain out of Microsoft. Had some more smart people I used to know when I worked there telling me they have had enough and are going to leave soon. - Robert Scoble
Robert, anecdotes (like statistics) can be used to justify any argument. :) - Dare Obasanjo
Well -- anecdotes are all we have here. Outside of the various HR departments (and they aren't talking) there is no real hard data here. "Recently I’ve been bumping into more and more people..." All I can talk about is my experiences as I've worked at both companies. - Joe Beda
Dare blames terminal "startup-itis" for the devaluation of experience and process at Google. But it looks like an over-attention to consumer products may also play a part. Helps explain their slow progress with enterprise penetration. - Sprague D
Sprague: oh, please. Enterprises just don't change directions very fast. Heck, go look at a counter at Hertz Rental Car. They are still using a DOS app. Microsoft's #1 problem isn't Google: it's getting Enterprises to adopt its new stuff. - Robert Scoble
Dare: well, I wish you'd focus on making my wife's blog faster. She's always complaining about how slow it is, and just now it forced me to enter a Passport password just to get in and see her blog. Damn, I wish she'd change to Wordpress. - Robert Scoble
Robert, I work in an enterprise (a big one) and Microsoft has little problem getting the ear of IT and Ops managers to pitch new solutions. They have a track record. On the other hand, we met last week with an account manager from Google to discuss their solutions to some of our challenges and their solution to every problem was... search (the enterprise search appliance). Not credible. - Sprague D
Sprague: yeah, that would get me to kick that guy from Google out of my office too. Amazingly lame. - Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm sure there are people working on improving the performance of Spaces in their next major release. SinceI don't work on our Web properties I can't help you there. However I'll be sure to mention that Robert Scoble keeps nagging me about Spaces perf everytime he encounters me in comments across the internet to the Spaces devs when I'm in the office on Monday. I'm sure this will push it to the top of their priority lists. ;) - Dare Obasanjo
Funny. this seems to be a frequent topic these days. I had similar conversations with folks last night at the @garyvee drinkup. Still deep divide between Orange and Blue badges at MSFT. My bro in-law works in the Office group. Horror stories. Political BS, people being forced out of orgs. That was reason I left back in 1999. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg via NoiseRiver
Dare: Wrt you not working on web properties -- I think this is the source of some of the disconnect. Developing services is *very* different from developing client apps and platforms. Those difference permeate every part of the company and imply various strengths and weaknesses. (Enterprise is a great example) When working on web properties, thinking in terms of "next big release" is very rare. Most often, the changes are much more incremental. - Joe Beda
Joe, I haven't worked on client apps or platforms in three years. I work on Web platforms that support Web and client apps. So my perspective is primarily from a Web perspective. I have no idea what goes on in Office, Windows, DevDiv, etc these days. - Dare Obasanjo
I liked Dion's polite reply post about getting back to tech discussions. For example, earlier this week Google rolled out OAuth support for all of its Google Data APIs, which is a good thing for OAuth and for people that want to make mashups in a secure way. - Matt Cutts
Dare, are you working on internal platforms or stuff that needs to be installed on customer's machines? That is probably the biggest difference. When you are talking about code for an internally hosted service vs. code that is shipped and supported. My mistake: client apps/platforms is probably too narrow. I think that many people underestimate the difference in software and process between running a service and shipping code. - Joe Beda
Joe, I don't work on customer facing stuff. I work on Web-based platform services which are used by Web apps (like Spaces and Hotmail) and client apps (like Messenger). - Dare Obasanjo
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