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lifeproof to lifeproof's feed, Creative Design, Ideas & Inspiration, Design (Tasarım), Design {Sweet} Design, Designers Who Design Things, ART ROOMََََ, Photography United, The Bloggers Discussions, İnternet Haberleri, Impolite Conversation
nonconformist blog awards – 2009 | [ black yogurt ]: Choose three of the nominees that you consider the most nonconformist blog in 2009. - http://blackyogurt.org/2009...
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please fill out the survey to help me choose the most nonconformist blog of 2009.
- lifeproof
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Demi Moore's lawyers threaten Boing Boing over photo analysis | Boing Boing - http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
Aperture Image, Jeff P. Henderson, Roberto Arancibia and 33 other people liked this
“Yes, the discussion at hand is only about an image of a celebrity on the cover of a fashion magazine. But the ability to freely discuss the provenance and technical history of a photo, including those with more crucial news value—say, images of detainee abuse, or Iranian missles—is a freedom we believe should be preserved.”
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Why does it seem to be the most liberal people in the world who want to stifle free speech while they accuse conservatives of the same thing?
- David C. Cooper
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA!!!!!!!!!
- CW™
This is turning into a Milli Vanilli type of thing now. Is she afraid she will be required to turn in her MILF award when its found out she is Photoshoped?
- CW™
What I don't get, with the ranks of every social media, art, and blog out there swelling with amateur photoshoppers who could have made the above manipulation flawlessly, why are these magazines PAYING people who do such a piss poor job, and putting them on the cover of issues that cost $millions to produce? All the effort that goes into making one of these print magazines, and all the...
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- Matthew DeVries
The whole thing is ridiculous and yet I am compelled to find out what the end result will be.
- WorldofHiglet
Wouldn't you think "logically" that Ms Moore would want the pain to stop? Why is her team continuing this death march... Mark me down as deeply puzzled at an inability to recognize a loser
- WarLord
Looks like Demi has some Dummies in her camp. After the forensics, they just look like lying bullies. As if Demi would have been in on the retouching to begin with. What model or actor hovers over his/her images until publication? Since I'm not in the biz, I'll appreciate any correction if they actually do monitor this process, but I can't imagine they have the time.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
They keep digging themselves into a deeper hole. Amazing.
- Micah Wittman
I see bOObies!!
- Billy Warhol
Awe Criminy - WTF?
- Alternating Reality Books
We need a 'best demi-photo-shopped' competition. Points awarded for the best 'slightest' changes.
- zeroinfluencer
"The Demi-Intersection"
- zeroinfluencer
I wonder if it is in her contract that she has final say of a publications picture.
- CW™
For being controlling of their photos, few celebrities can match Sara Jessica Parker (not necessarily to her actual benefit, mind you).
- Michael R. Bernstein
Isaak Levitan, Spring Flood - kimber scott's posterous - http://kimberscott.posterous.com/isaak-l...
Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Flickr Central, Flickr Photography, Photography United, DSLR, Question of the Day
What is your flickr URL? I'm here: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Armin, Mattb4rd, ChaCha Fance and 104 other people liked this
Feel free to add me. Don't forget about the Flickr Photography group here: http://friendfeed.com/flickr-... And there is also a FriendFeed Flickr group here: http://www.flickr.com/groups... #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
سلتون تو دوباره پریدی وسط بحث یه عده بزرگتر؟ :)))))
- I /-\li
http://www.flickr.com/photos... please require to be added to see my photos :D
- Valentina De Santis
I'm subbing everyone as I go. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I can't believe who I've missed here, thanks for the links! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.flickr.com/photos... Not much activity lately, thou.
- Marcos
Andy, 2? That's just greedy, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
That is what a homepage is for. You can reach mine through the link in my profile.
- Peter
Kol, once again, thanks for helping us all connect. There are some great photographers on FF.
- Kevin Pedraja
Now that I'm going through and adding all of these people I'm discovering that Flickr needs a grouping functionality for contacts.
- Kenton
I don't need to mention it here. You can just mouse over me to find out. The power of FriendFeed.
- Nick B.
Wow, Nick. Way to play along.
- Rochelle
John Piercy -http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- johnpiercy
I looked at at least two pages of every user who posted. I just started learning, so I bookmarked about 20 pages that I'll be coming back to. This was nice, thanks!
- Ryan Massie
Feel free to add me: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Milton Ramirez
- Milton Ramirez
Kol, I listed my url earlier but feel free to add me as a contact (http://www.flickr.com/photos...)
- Johnny
A great thread. I do believe that I have subscribed to ya'll. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
http://www.flickr.com/photos... awesome thread! will have to check everyone out [I work there]
- Criz
http://www.flickr.com/photos... Have a nice day!
- Gabcsi
http://www.flickr.com/photos... i am here :)
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
http://flickr.com/photos... (NSFW if you have safesearch turned off)
- Michael Hocter
http://www.flickr.com/photos... . The quality of my stream varies depending on inspiration, if you're browsing I suggest my 25 most interesting images: http://www.flickr.com/photos... and my personal favorites: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Niklas Morberg
http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Bengi Gencer
- bengi gençer
Http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaymeephoto
- Chad McCoskey
from iPhone
Thanks for all the links! I'll be going through them all today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks guys! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
just realized ,, ive been missing out on some awesome photographs .. AWESOME thread
- johnpiercy
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
wow, thats a lot of flickrs LOL well, thanks to you I went to flickr and set up my url.. I was amazed this was available http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- David Gross
Thank you all! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.flickr.com/photos... Awesome!
- ★ Soner Gönül
Couldn't find the page, Soner.
- Kol Tregaskes
I just went pro :D http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- MλTT
Cool. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you everyone! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
G Dan Mitchell: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- G Dan Mitchell
Great shots, G. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
/micahwittman
- Micah Wittman
http://www.flickr.com/photos... DavidePatti
- Davide Patti
Thank you all!
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
http:///www... - I haven't updated it, photo-wise for a long time, since I was getting dangerously close to exceeding the 200 item limit.
- Tyson Key
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is me: flickr.com/photos/vestigialconsciousness/
- Parth Awasthi
http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Peter Mutuma
- Peter Mutuma
there are some great pictures in this list!
- Chris Rogers
What is your Twitter URL? What do you tweet about? Mine is http://twitter.com/koltreg... and I tweet about all sorts :-) #twitter
James Myatt, Majento, Jennifer Dittrich and 55 other people liked this
Feel free to follow me. This thread could get messy. :-) #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
Sorry I had to delete the first post of this, so apologises for the few that posted their URLs on that one.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/jcunwired I could use some more followers too. I hope you folks aren't bots! :)
- jcunwired
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/niczak -- I tweet about the following: Programming, databases, parenting, living & enjoying life, and involvement in lots of local activities here in Northern Nevada.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Thanks, Nicholas.
- Kol Tregaskes
Well I'll still be on Twitter once FF is integrated into FB. Join me on Twitter? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/chaz2b my posts start here for what i post on twitter
- chaz2b
you rock, Kol! Good community building here.
- Valeria Maltoni
http://twitter.com/andrewroche - politics and random stuff (a lot of it from here funnily enough).
- Andrew Roche
I have most of you (didn't have Valeria for some reason, but just added), mine is http://twitter.com/jungleg -- see you on the other side ;)
- Jorge Escobar
Find me at http://twitter.com/andrued... and my news updates at http://twitter.com/gearlive
- Andru Edwards
http://www.twitter.com/jimgold... - photography and social media
- Jim Goldstein
http://twitter.com/magicofpi - you might see a lot of ff.im links there, but I suppose that'll change soon...
- Ryan - @magicofpi
http://twitter.com/jwang392 - web design, iphone app development, hawaii events
- John Wang
http://twitter.com/onWave - I post links from a useful Twitter tool I made... and sometimes mundane stuff...
- Gus
http://twitter.com/fcbosa - social media, blogging, design, inspiration.
- Oğuz Serdar
Thanks guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/Chronotope - Mostly I tweet about tech stuff and news local to the Northern Virgina area. I also touch on video games and get some blipping in.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
http://twitter.com/kandeezie - randomness and nerdy gadget/tech love. :-p
- Kandeezie
http://twitter.com/gabediaz - Design, development, WordPress and all things in between.
- Gabe Diaz
http://www.twitter.com/puffadd... I tweet about ninjas lol.
- Jason
I basically tweet politics at http://Twitter.com/hopechat; i follow discussions on books, gardening and general stuff on http://Twitter.com/ruthdfw; grantwriting and freelancing on http://Twitter.com/words101 and for anything related to Dallas and surrounding cities it is http://Twitter.com/NDGEditor
- R. Ferguson
http://twitter.com/movieguyjon - I say weird shit, bitch at random times, and will say more weird shit. Occasionally I'll post fun things too, with a smidgeon of inane. :P
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
http://www.twitter.com/rutgerb... tweet about my daily life (aka status updates), tech and photography.
- Rutger Blom
from iPhone
Pretty clever way to work in a plug for your timeline.. I like your style, Kol ;)
- Brad McCrorey
Http://Twitter.com/Polizeros cleantech, the economy, leftwing politics
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
from iPhone
http://twitter.com/sonergonul Feel like a star.
- ★ Soner Gönül
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/niron (isn't it obvious?)
- Nir Ben Yona
http://twitter.com/feeniks ... anything that comes to mind at that particular moment :)
- Bhowmik Shah
http://twitter.com/dennis_... (don't forget the underscore) What do I tweet about? Tech, fiction, art, music, politics, comics, and of course my fiction. Occasionally some Seattle or Bremerton related stuff. I also have TwitterFeed tweet my blogs, and I always tweet from Flickr.
- Dennis Jernberg
http://twitter.com/marcoda... Twitting about Communications, Marketing and something about myself :)
- Marco Dal Pozzo [mdp]
http://twitter.com/tofu916 I tweet about black people and I use a lot of foul language. then I repent. follow mi! :)
- Tofu De la Moore
from BuddyFeed
http://twitter.com/hoof I tweet a lot in Dutch, about design, photoshop, 3d and everyday life.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
http://twitter.com/wordsfo... - I actually respond to people to want to chat with me ;-)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
http://twitter.com/alexgamela i tweet about media and journalism, and sometimes silly stuff. also in portuguese.
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
http://twitter.com/glenc but I have to warn you, I stopped following people on Twitter a while ago. I have about 300 subscription notices (unread) in my email.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
i post about film and television editing/post production, I'm a bit of a gadget nerd, and i like anything funny on the web. i love followers... http://twitter.com/toddzelin
- Todd Zelin
I'm sure you're all interesting but following 6,000 is my limit. ; )
- Liz
http://twitter.com/cgranier - I tweet about many things -usually tech-oriented, reply to everyone who @'s me, and have lately been posting a lot about #FreeMediaVE, bringing attention to the struggle against communism in Venezuela. Feel free to follow me. @ me for a quick follow back. No spammers please.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Thank you all. I hope at least some follow me back else I'll hit my follower limit soon. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/may_gun My music career, interaction with ppl, The Guild, Wiggly Wigglers.
- Spidra Webster
http://twitter.com/casschin - I mostly post up funny/odd web gems and nerdy tech news. Occasionally, I tweet what I eat.
- Cassidy
http://identi.ca/andyc Microblog about all sorts but mainly OMB and how much I dislike inferior legacy services. No names, no packdrill.
- Andy C
http://twitter.com/Felter i tweet about all, but i don't retweet my FF message. From twitter to FF only. if you follow me in FF, you can read my tweet.
- Felter Roberto
from twhirl
http://twitter.com/abrudtkuhl - web strategy & internet marketing + random stuff
- andy brudtkuhl
twitter.com/icetiger
- Kim
twitter.com/andi1984 - elearning, web 2.0
- Andreas S.
http://www.twitter.com/jbschro... - everything. mostly tech
- Johnny
http://twitter.com/islanddog Tech, Gaming, and everything in between
- Spencer
http://twitter.com/cacarr - Tech, Cognitive Science
- Christopher A Carr
http://twitter.com/livepaola (bilingual, in Italian and English)
- Paola Bonomo
http://twitter.com/ozuckan, trilingual, in Turkish, in English, in French, all sort...
- Ozgur Uckan
Thanks again. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/antifreeze Obviously.
- Seth Blank
Twitter.com/mathewballard and I tweet mostly about graphic and web design.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
from iPhone
http://twitter.com/PhilBaumann - I'll tweet about anything stimulating, contentious or jackassy.
- phil baumann
http://twitter.com/alejandroz and I tweet about...everything.
- Alejandro
You know, you could have just started feeding in your tweets here and achieved the same, right? Or would that have been too subtle?
- Mr. Gunn
http://twitter.com/glitterpoet Don't mean to offend but it's usually not religious. Porn, drinking,dancing, music,makeup....I still do healing work. I just don't talk about it much anymore.
- Gabrielle V
My twitter stream is the typical... random thought bubbles, food porn pics, and shared items relating to technology, politics, and $$$. http://twitter.com/sean808080 is where you find me. Oh and I like unicorns and fairy dust.
- sean808080
@fossilhuntress or fossilmaitress (I kept getting my email cracked and getting locked out hence the duplicate); all content, linked to digg, delicious... mostly science, paleo and random banter...
- Fossil Huntress
http://twitter.com/joeygibson - I tweet about WDW, Java, Groovy, Scala, iPhone, politics, etc. I'm loads of fun. :-)
- Joey Gibson
http://twitter.com/burak - I tweet about technology, gadgets, stuff that matters
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
http://twitter.com/super_g... I tweet about bathroom trips, stupidity and cougar sightings
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Fossil, it's @fossilhuntress http://twitter.com/fossilh... The other one doesn't exist.
- Kol Tregaskes
It's @bookhling for me. I usually tweet about DIYBio, computers, books, and what I ate for dinner. :)
- Sung W. Lim
@JacquesMuffin and I tweet mostly about music.
- Olivier de Villardi
Thanks guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/satanwyj 中文用户 :)
- Roger.Wei
http://twitter.com/lachmir I tweet about dumb stuff
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Thanks everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
I have ceased being a twitter user since they are such twats (management)
- Richard A.
http://twitter.com/erier2003 - I write about technology, journalism, and Star Wars. But mostly Star Wars. :)
- Eric Geller
http://twitter.com/sonergonul Of course ;)
- ★ Soner Gönül
Maybe this is a good time to 'reactivate' this thread. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget the other lists can be found at the hashtag: #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
@ffcode
- ffcode
http://twitter.com/brexians all about #travel #photography #sci-fi #space and #weird! join and joy
- Demetrios the Traveller
http://twitter.com/wangyip - mostly stuff from FF (tech, startups, web apps, sometimes things about math, medicine, fitness) - I've followed a few here on tech stuff (Edit: Thanks Kol for the thread)
- Wang Yip
http://twitter.com/eoghann... - I post sci-fi news (tv, movies, books or comics I'm probably a fan of it), some tech stuff and the occasional round of venting.
- Eoghann Irving
I have Twitter lists now, and I've started one up for FriendFeeders: http://twitter.com/dennis_...; if you want me to add you to it, @-mention me at http://twitter.com/dennis_....
- Dennis Jernberg
Thanks everyone!
- Kol Tregaskes
Just followed you. Btw, mine's - http://twitter.com/jaypee
- JP Habaradas
http://twitter.com/DavidHolmes - Focusing on Internet music, Open Content, and the Social Web. I use lists to group/filter the people I follow.
- David Holmes
Graham Sergeant, Felipe, Ton Zijp and 32 other people liked this
ZOMG, this file is huge. The track is 11 minutes long, but it's one of my favorite songs ever. If there's a Heaven, surely Thelonious is there tickling the ivories.
- Derrick
I just listened to this all the way through, it's simply fantastic.
- Derrick
Listening now. Ahhh.... :) My version on The Columbia Years, Disc 2 is only 5:19. ??
- Ayşe E.
Ayse, it sounds like the version I have (from The Essential Thelonious Monk) is a live version, if that makes any difference.
- Derrick
w00t! Looks like I need the Essential Monk. :) (still groovin')
- Ayşe E.
A pro soloist would have to find it easy to solo over Monk's vamping. He lays such a solid foundation in which you hear the melody line the whole time, it's amazing. Even the second roll through the solo before he cuts entirely. Lovely, lovely stuff.
- Rick Cogley
Vince Guaraldi seems to have been influenced by Monk, but who wouldn't be. Doesn't this tune "remind" you of some of the Peanuts music? I think there's at least a modal relationship.
- Rick Cogley
Good
- ★ Soner Gönül
LOL, well-said, Derrick. ♥ Thelonious.
- Harold Cabezas
My pops just said he loved me. Buy stock in Kleenex and remind me to cancel therapy on Monday.
Ken Morley, Maria Niles, Junebug (aka Sarah Jill) and 45 other people liked this
Way to go, pops. Best wishes to you both, Derrick.
- s t e v e
Much love to you, D!
- Mary Carmen
Ain't it the best?
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
((((((((((derrick))))))))
- VAL D. Zone
;)
- rowlikeagirl
You know you're an early adopter when you join a service and the only person Robert Scoble is following is you.
chaz2b, ravi karandeekar, İbrahim Uzun [ j ] and 44 other people liked this
Cliqset ? Seems like a mix between Tumblr and Friendfeed IMO. I´m only registered there, but I would have been really surprised if *The Second Scoble* had followed me there.
- Thomas Bøhm
Oh, Robert.
- Derrick
It's very very slow. And getting slower as the day wears on.
- Matthew DeVries
I just had a buttload of follows today. I tried Cliqset a while back and really wasn't all that impressed.
- Jason, Craving
I think that there is a lot of potential here but it still needs a lot of work.
- Akiva Moskovitz
haha - that is indeed a true mark of early adopter-hood... congrats Akiva :)
- Susan Beebe
So this is a real service? Y'all didn't make it up to prank Robert?
- Andrew C
What did you do? break it? the service is down...
- Robyn Hawk
Who is Robert Scoble? Is he related to Scoobie Do¿?
- imabonehead
from Android
Cliqset is unresponsive in assisting it's users in anyway. So I've decided that they're f'ing useless. I can't even delete my account.
- Jimminy Fuller
OMG. I want to see what "Where Are You, Scoble Do?" looks like! Get on it, Robert Smigel!
- Spidra Webster
The System
Chatsohbet, Ragani Harris, ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0, and 53 other people liked this
LOVE EET!
- Mellissa
change it from coffee to Mountain Dew and that's me from 1992 to 2005.
- Joe Silence is ashes
Change it to a sitting-on-the-potty icon and that's me from 1963 to date.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
How does friendfeed factor into this equation? The sarcasm part? :->
- Rick Cogley
I was sarcastic before 1963 but that's when I started drinking coffee.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
They had coffee in '63?
- Mo Kargas
@Mo, radio and television too!
- Jason, Craving
Yeah, the ol' 7" Dumont pulled in Milton Berle pretty well.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
They had coffee in '63, but they had to boil the water over a fire.
- Mellissa
Water dragged 100 miles in a bucket ?
- Mo Kargas
heh
- Kamilah Gill
What did we do before the internet? Where did we all troll before?
- Jerry Perez
Jerry: IRL
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Samuel Adams Winter Classics Collection - http://www.uncrate.com/men...
Pete, Mona Nomura, Eric @ CSTechcast.com and 4 other people liked this
"Need to get a beer-loving relative a last minute gift? The Samuel Adams Winter Classics Collection ($14-$16) is a fine option, including two bottles each of Samuel Adams Boston Lager, Samuel Adams Winter Lager, Samuel Adams Old Fezziwig Ale, Samuel Adams Holiday Porter, Samuel Adams Cranberry Lambic, and the new Samuel Adams Coastal Wheat in an easy-to-wrap box."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
Cranberry? Hmmm.
- LB - all new for '10!
I have had the cranberry, and I really enjoyed it.
- Michelle Martinez
Sometimes I really wish I liked beer. I've tried to like it, but just don't.
- Rochelle
I like it much more than I used to, Ro. I'm kicking myself for forgetting to pick some up while I was out. I'm really curious about these holiday ales.
- Derrick
Rochelle, there are so many different types of beer (believe me, I'm the person to know that), that it's easier to find a beer you like than to find a wine you like. It's just that the range of beers that people are able to get to know is so limited. It's availability, that's what I mean.
- Ton Zijp
I picked up a similar case on Monday!
- Anne Bouey
Rochelle, if you like fruity beverages, give lambic a try. I love the raspberry kind.
- LB - all new for '10!
Better yet: http://www.rogue.com/beers...
- Christopher A Carr
The black cherry kind is yummy, Cecily. :)
- LB - all new for '10!
oh nice! thanks for posting this... think i might have to pick up a case to bring down to my folks tomorrow....
- Jeffrey Marsh
Prediction for 2010: FriendFeed is going to see a resurgence.
ravi karandeekar, Adrian, Flavio and 80 other people liked this
What's the rationale?
- Pavan
Really?!
- Michael Liss
I think this prediction's outcome might fall into the hands of Facebook. We'll see what they do with the property this year.
- Andrew Dobrow
Funny that this comes from Twitter. =D
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
ROFL.
- Derrick
So is RSS if we're going to follow Robert's logic.
- Jimminy Fuller
HOW TO SPOT COMMENT BAIT IN 100 EASY STEPS — STEP 1: DID IT COME FROM ROBERT SCOBLE? STEPS 2-100: REPEAT STEP 1.
- Akiva Moskovitz
already happening, yo
- Josh Haley
it started surging (again) after ppl let the knowledge of fb purchase fall into the bits of history pages
- chaz2b
Lets cross our fingers
- polou/indigo_bow
This is SO an experiment on Scoble's part.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
WTF is FriendFeed?
- David Cohn
Rational, Twitter usage is flattening, people are finally figuring out that Twitter sucks for having a conversation. People though Friendfeed was hard to use, try having to install several software 'crutches' to be able to use Twitter productively without even half the functionality as Freindfeed.
- Jeff P. Henderson
if you say so...
- MobilAdam
Either this is tounge in cheek or Robert really hasn't gotten over our breakup... Robert, I hope we can still be friends but we have to move on and grow... FriendFeed will always love you, but we need some 'us' time to find out who 'we' are... *cues The Bodygaurd soundtrack*... *walks out into the rain, adjusts collar, walks off down the road*... *fade to black, credits*
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
LOL Johnny!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Best Christmas present ever!
- Jemm
Comment bait. Even Robert can't generate interest these days.
- Russellreno
I agree. Friendfeed is for those who need more from a 2d interface. Until there spatial interface is there, Friendfeed is on top of the pyramid (especially when one knows how to use it best).
- Kirill Bolgarov
Up
- Luca Perugini
from iPhone
*slow-mo head shake*
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
Too funny! Johnny and Akiva -- you guys crack me up.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I would agree with a few here and say that FriendFeed is already resurging, Robert. #friendfeed
- Kol Tregaskes
AMEN!
- zʍıɔ
The stats don't agree though: http://thenextweb.com/2009...
- Kol Tregaskes
it's like drunk dialing an ex-girlfriend...
- Aron Michalski
from BuddyFeed
i guess so too..
- Daniele - Viralavatar
so too :)
- ★ Soner Gönül
Agreed wholeheartedly Robert
- Roberto Bonini
Akiva: lol, Kol: that article only looks at unique visitors, and doesn't consider user hours.
- Mike Chelen
:) @ Aron - sums it up perfectly...
- 1x29
Lets hope so ... Miss some of my old peeps :)
- Charlie Anzman
I'm surprised Robert made this statement but I find it very interesting in the change of view and wonder what has changed his mind or if he knows more info.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
The unpredictably erratic Scobot is at it again...
- Ciro
Well, after glancing at his Twitter timeline, he's just making a bunch of joke predictions. I'd like to think that there's some truth in this one though...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Sniffs... Do you smell that? It's what we used to call a troll. Robert is getting dangerously close to becoming irrelevent.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
Robert is waiting until 2010 to respond to this thread. :)
- Louis Gray
I told you so
- Jesse Stay
Kol: the *stat* doesn't agree (note the singular)
- Jesse Stay
Well, since I'm ready organizing the elections for the best Dutch blogs I can say the resurgence already started last week. ;-)
- Ton Zijp
Kol: Here are many more stats that imply the contrary: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
Excellent idea.
- Richard A.
from FreshFeed
Scoble - I disagree ONLY because I think that FriendFeed activity is already migrating to Facebook via deeper integration over there but I'm wiling to hear you out (as are the other 40+ people commenting here). Do share why you think this is true?
- Aaron Strout
I wrote this tweet for Twitter, not for FriendFeed. But nice to see you all! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Jason: I'm definitely irrelevant if the people calling me irrelevant don't even have 1,000 subscribers. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I actually see FriendFeed growing instead of slowing and there will also be new enhancements. A testing ground for Facebook. Just to expand, Robert's still the man!
- amarquart
Akiva wins the internets with this mathematical formula for spotting comment bait.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
You think we're fighting, I think we're finally talking! -all in one page
- Tim Jones
Funny, when I write, I write for everyone, everywhere
- Johnny Worthington
Beat ya to it Robert: http://friendfeed.com/jhuebel... And the resurgence is already happening.
- Jason, Craving
@Jason Williams, wow that's the pot calling the kettle black, doncha think? Robert's not a troll.
- Jason, Craving
@Kol, somebody mentioned that those stats often only consider US visitors (why that would be, I don't know). FF's non-US contingent has grown tremendously, so that graph may not show the whole picture.
- Jason, Craving
Akiva wins the thread.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
let's hope so - I love the darn thing
- Arthur Coleman
I'm finding that FriendFeed is fiendishly sticky. On Twitter lists do help, they make twitter better and all but but but-but I think a lot of users are getting more sophisticated in their web usage faster than Twitter can evolve their tech. Louis Grey recently postulated that even if there is no interaction on FriendFeed it makes complete sense to stay riding this horse. That got me...
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- JSLeFanu
Dude..... I totally hope you're right, but not too sure about this! LOL Explain your rationale please :)
- Susan Beebe
i agree with the original prediction. by the way, what's a resurgence? is it different than insurgents? :-)
- Morgan Haley
Morgan - the insurgents never left ... ;-p
- Robyn Hawk
Jason, OK. Good. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'll stay one faithful user, for those "outside the US" stats. Still feature plenty, still enjoyable. Still effective. Thanks for rallying the troops again Robert. Bring the hopes, and forget the ropes! 8)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
like Elijah
- maxilprof
I like this whole thread. ++Akiva, Johnny, JSLeFanu, Jason Heubel, Mike Chelen . . . Robert, Twitter may have geeks and famous people, but you can actually do things here. Oh, wait - I'm not here. I'm in a widget on a blog in someone's Posterous whom I don't even know, that I'm searching through to find FF peeps to subscribe to over here. Now, that's just mind-blowing!
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
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Brian, Nasiim, Burçak Çubukçu and 31 other people liked this
Evet o babasının donu :)
- Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu
from Bookmarklet
LOL
- Josh Haley
haha
- mbtemiz
LOLOL!
- AJ Batac
internet affetmez
- Emre 'lowrider' Savaş
LOL He grounded her.
- Admiral Anika
yorumlar da bi o kadar iyi =D
- animæ
Seriously.
- Kamilah Gill
"limited" ı tanımlama şekli çok mantıklı. annesinin terminolojisiyle konuşmuş yani :)
- asli subasi
=)
- Александра Арс (AF)
The realtime connection from Twitter to FriendFeed is back! (thanks to Twitter's "birddog" api)
Nicholas James, Garin Kilpatrick, "Serhat Ozan" and 151 other people liked this
Awesome news!
- Jorge Escobar
Very good!
- Kurt Starnes
Sweetness!
- Alex Scrivener
34 secs flat for my latest tweet. Thanks Paul and team for this!
- Jorge Escobar
wow, that makes actually want to use Twitter. I may just go tweet something.
- Mike Nencetti
It should be even faster than that Jorge, but our systems are getting near their limit. I hope to have it down to 1 sec sometime next month.
- Paul Buchheit
Thank god!
- Miguel Caetano
@Paul, believe me, 34 secs is a charm compared to what we had before!
- Jorge Escobar
Great news!
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Is the birddog api open to all developers, or is it only to you guys?
- Jorge Escobar
Jorge, everyone can access the streaming api, but you need an agreement to follow a large number of ids. See http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Streami...
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks Paul.
- Roberto Bonini
that cool. Thanks Paul
- Peter Dawson
Yay! That's fantastic! I was getting really bored of manually refreshing it every time I tweeted. Especially from my phone. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Does this mean that Scoble can get smarter on FriendFeed again?
- Crutis
NICE!
- Jason, Craving
Thanks Paul, nice work :)
- LANjackal
wow no posts on the majors yet - usually within mere moments of an announcement we'd have posts.
- Allen Stern
Thank God.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
cool!
- barbarars
What was the problem?
- Ozkan Altuner
Now....if you could just get rid of the @ replies again. I would be very happy.
- Chris Nixon
relief ! :)
- asli subasi
You are still working on Frienfeed (: how nice !
- MuratCanDemir
whoa, it took less than a minute. i accdently tested it but it's great :) thnx
- asli subasi
awesome, keep it up guys, i knew you would not let us down
- Iggy Mwangi
Great news, love the efforts still put in to FF.I use Google Reader to share into FF (PubSubHubBub) then FF to Twitter (now Real-Time). The URL shortener is great (ff.im), and so FF is central to my social lifestream. I don't care what Scoble says, FF is technically better and feature-rich.
- Keith Rowland
P.S. Conversations are still better here than on GReader, and you just can't have one on Twitter.
- Keith Rowland
You didn't break the FF Facebook app while you were at it, did you? It hasn't worked since.
- Tim Tyler
Oh, awesome!!! 12 seconds :) I can finally go back to Twitter (...okay no I can't I've turned into a Friendfeed junkie..) but prior it took hours upon hours for me to see a feed. Dumb I am, I never suspected a problem LMAO.
- H0llywoodWh0re
Thank you!
- Micah Wittman
Awesome news :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
eyvallah hacı
- Mücahit Yılmaz
Cool. Haven't tried it but yay!
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Yippee! I love real time
- Sandra Large
Paul ?? Twitter updates facebook status and then facebook creates a new feed here on friendfeed. So we have same entries both from twitter and facebook on friendfeed. Could you guys please work on how we can avoid duplicate entries? Thank you. ( If there's already a way to avoid this, pls let me know)
- MuratCanDemir
Cool, thanks, Paul! :-) RT Twitter updates have been missed. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
And just as I say that, I see my tweets are not coming into FF in real-time. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol. I just tweeted and it was here before I could get out of Tweetie and launch Safari... It's working :)
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
awesome.; thank you a lot..
- Jaap Willem
Nice! Thank U Paul :)
- zʍıɔ
:)
- ★ Soner Gönül
Oh, so nice to have that back again.
- Hutch Carpenter
Johnny, cool. Just me then. It's still slow. Maybe it's FriendFeed then?
- Kol Tregaskes
It truncates retweets, even in the middle of a link...
- raphaeL
seems that there are only 140chars allowed for a tweet (on FF) and the new twitter retweets are being translated on the way through to old RT @name style - thus are too long.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
In Facebook, you can "Like" your own posts.
CAJ, somewhere else, johnpiercy, лето ближе с каждым днем and 235 other people liked this
LOL!
- Steven Perez
ahahah
- cenay.bayulgen
It's good to be the king of the jungle.
- CAJ, somewhere else
ROFL
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Hehe... I suppose that's because "like" doesn't really do anything in FB.
- Christopher A Carr
i try not to judge.
- Trish Haley
Actually, as far as I can tell, Like in FB does do something: it's basically an empty comment, so you get notified of new comments that occur after you Like it.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
- Parth Awasthi
Gl3n: Oh, yeah, there's that.
- Christopher A Carr
Hahahahaha
- Geoff Schultz
We were always told it's okay to like your own post.
- Robert Kenney
And you "like" your own posts because you can.
- Mr Saturday Morning NFG
Because you can, indeed. Just like Mr. Lion, here.
- Josh Haley
lmaaaaaaaaaao!!
- vijay
Exactly what vijay said! :D
- directeur
You mean... ROFLMBO: rolling on the floor licking my balls off?
- Adrian
haha
- Rodfather
Dude. ROFLMAO!
- Carlos Ayala
jaajajja xDDDDD
- Drea
Just telling it like it is.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
I make it a point to like my posts daily. heh.
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
I Like myself. ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I like me.
- Christopher A Carr
lol
- Rick Cogley
:) :) :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I wonder if I should post this on Facebook .. :D
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
LOL!!
- Ethan
I'm seriously hurting from laughing so much!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
*Throws Tylenol bottle at Mahendra*
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
"jealous!" LOL
- Ron Thompson
from iPhone
Yes. I think it's exactly like a lion licking its own balls.
- Jason, Craving
from iPhone
+1 adrian, ROFLMBO.
- mjc
liked the title :)))))
- Viva Vida
just the titile, the pic is rood
- خیزران kheyzaran
@Glen: it's true but what bothers me most is that unlike friendfeed, fb delivers a separate mail for every person that comments on that post. #lame
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
hahaah. lol
- Mehmet Fatih YILDIZ
I would just like to go on record here and clearly state that, were I able to do what this lion is doing, I WOULD NOT! NO! NEVER! EVER! Thank you.
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
Mark, not even if they were dipped in chocolate?
- Adrian
lol Adrian :D
- vijay
lol
- mikepk
No! Not even then!
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
:D
- Kaan Biryol
To be honest, Mark, I don't think there are many people who would lick a lion's balls, so you aren't alone there.
- Slappy Line
Thank you ! Best of the day !
- Desirade
I love your FriendFeed background picture so much Big balls !
- Desirade
LOL Oh yeah thats the spot
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
Desirade, that just may be the best comment I have ever recieved!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
strum above the hole, people!
- Jim in Real Time
Damn, Jim, you beat me to it!
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Hahaha
- Ricardo Vidal
from iPod
1UP Jim
- Josh Haley
wewt?
- Danny Minick
lol
- Brady
Something to do while GMail is down.
- Josh Haley
Yau'll are some sick _ucks. Let the King have a private moment for God's sake. Shame on you people. Can't yau'll see he's welcomed by his peeps in the jungle. He went down south for a royal visit :)
- Jeunelle Foster
sick _ucks, is that like hiccups?
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
LOLLLL
- Mil∂d
Very funny photo, just like a kitty cat
- F1Community
but why would you "Like" your own posts? that would be like...
- David Gross
hey if you don't like your own $h!t then who will?
- Tate DA FF MVP
it's good to like yourself unless your emo ;-p
- Loc
Laughing & crying at the same time... geez that's funny & contemporary #fb
- Yann Ropars
It's my birthday and I'll Like if i want to.
- Josh Haley
Reminder
- Josh Haley
Remember I do.
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
Nibble Nobby's Nuts before Nobby nibbles yours
- Jesse Stay
#unutmatamkarışık bende bunu arıyodum ya :) iyi oldu
- Tamkarışık
Don't look.
Charlotte Mazeyrat, Chatsohbet, DJ.HAMED and 16 other people liked this
scoble sighting on the right
- fijidaddy
We know who wears the pants in this relationship
- Zax Stevens
All you have to do is take some photos – which you never delete from your camera – so when someone finds your camera at the bottom of the gorilla pit they are able to locate you and return the lost property to its rightful owner. http://www.andrewmcdonald.net.au/a-picto...
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Lo, Bryan Lee, chaz2b and 162 other people liked this
I love this.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I like how everything is clear and readable except the email address.
- Alex Scrivener
LOL That's funny, but yeah...what's with the email address being so small?
- Admiral Anika
At any rate, I had a video I made with all my info on it. I accidentally took it off my chip, but I'm positive I copied it to my camera. Unfortunately, I don't know how to access my camera's memory and the cord has been lost. One of these days, I'll RTFM. =)
- Admiral Anika
that was great.......lol
- VAL D. Zone
genius.
- Morgan Haley
I like how the facial expressions match the whiteboard :-)
- Rene Wirtz
lol that was awesome as hell. I'm definitely planning to do it.
- Bora Mesut PALAS
I'd just leave only one pic with my email
- Itachi
The other pics build empathy, encouraging a border-line thief to return the camera. Otherwise you may as well stick a label on the case and be done with it.
- Alex Scrivener
Does anyone else want to make out with this guy for being SO DAMN AWESOME? Srsly, total panty-dropper this one was.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
@tinypants I totally agree!
- vicster is...
God. That really *was* awesome. Anyone hesitating, go on, click the blue arrow so you can read the whole thing XD
- Kamilah Gill
this is win.
- Colette
cute
- Burçak Çubukçu
he's sweet, but it won't work
- topo
this would make an amazing ad : )
- liladreams
wow, this is very close to being the most popular thing I have ever posted to Friendfeed. Just goes to show, um, something. Always use pictures?
- Alex Scrivener
took 25 of em ;)
- Itachi
ALWAYS use pictures. I try to include a picture with every post. Otherwise, people just pass the post by. It's always been that way.
- Jason, Craving
Yes, Always use pictures! For one thing, I might sketch your stuff one day! Also yes, it helps your posts stand out.
- Kamilah Gill
Awesome!
- Josh Haley
I'm the opposite. I tend to ignore posts with photos (unless the post itself is just a photo). Why? The image usually detracts from the text and people spend time talking about the picture and making it clear they didn't bother to read the text or link.
- Admiral Anika
=/ (not about the original post. I already expressed how much I love it)
- Kamilah Gill
:)
- winckel
Or you could just put an address sticker on the camera...
- Alix Whitmire
No, the pictures try to build an emotional connection with the finder. It helps convince a not-so-honest person to return the camera rather than just keep it. It won't stop a real thief, but it could tip the odds in his favor. A sticker can't do that.
- Alex Scrivener
There should be a place in your camera for email address, like cell phones have "Home" so when you lose it, someone can call you. Hmmmm.
- anna sauce
Brilliant! :D
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
I wouldn't ever think to go through pics, but if I found a lost cam (or phone or whatever) with an address clearly visible on it, I'd pop it in the mail, or call/email someone, no problem. Same holds true for some lost and found places. They might call you if there's easy contact info, but I don't see them taking the time to flip through photos to figure out how. Maybe do both?
- Alix Whitmire
Creative!
- Mehmet Ali Akyol
lol
- echostreamer
LoL !
- ★ Soner Gönül
So good!
- Micah Wittman
That's a great idea ! i'm just sad you didn't show it before i left my camera somewhere ... T_T
- Duff
that's genius. now all I need is the camera
- JSLeFanu
Very Good!
- John D Reasor
ikinci ramazan cekic vakasi mi bu simdi
- Cagdas Seichter
ramazan taklitlerinden sakininiz
- Cagdas Seichter
I was putting a README.txt file on my USB sticks with contact info if it got lost. This is way better! Now take this board with your contact info.... smile, no! put a sad face.... and you're done!
- Nenad Nikolic
This is now far and away the most popular thing I have ever posted. Even got a FFundercats Best of the Week!
- Alex Scrivener
:D
- Josh Haley
Güzel, son derece yaratıcı bir fikirmis :)
- Orkut Ozdemirci
Alp to Alp's feed, ffsms Feedback, FriendFeed Hacks, FriendFeed API, ffScheduler Feedback, Appetite, Social Media Club
ffsms: (now, released for USA) Send Your FriendFeed Posts via SMS! Sign up, get your PIN and post to FF from your mobile phone. It is FREE! #ffsms Try it now: - http://ffsms.com/
Roberto Chibbaro, HealingBrush, Tofu De la Moore and 101 other people liked this
Users from the USA can use our new project "ffsms": ffsms is the first FriendFeed service brings you ability of posting to FriendFeed via SMS. After its pre-release in Turkey, it is available for you! You'll just pay for a standart SMS. Try it now! (Feedback: http://friendfeed.com/ffsms)
- Alp
from Bookmarklet
Kol, you're too fast!
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
congrugulations. :) i have used it in Turkey. It was fantastic. :)
- Onur Şentüre
Alp, who are you using to provide SMS functionality here in the U.S. ?
- Carter Rabasa
Carter, we use services of Zeep.
- Alp
Alp çok iyi işler çıkarıyorsun :) helal olsun
- Mert
Alp, will MMS work and attach files/photos?
- chrisofspades
@chris, no that is just for raw text.
- Alp
(in Canada, so can't try it) but this is fantastic for Turkey and the US - great job Alp!
- Micah Wittman
Micah, I think it may work for Canada but will charge extra fee. btw thanks, help spreadin'! :)
- Alp
Well done Alp :)
- Hamdi Kavak
That's great!
- . -
it's working perfectly. way to go! =)
- Elif Crt
Hayırlı olsun!! Keep up the good work, guys :)
- directeur
E süpermiş bu :)
- Onur Gündüz
When's it coming to the UK? ;)
- Nicholas James
Nicholas, I'm not sure about it. Most probably in a few weeks, it seems nobody wants to use this in the US, so maybe we will never launch for UK. Even Turkish people are using it a lot but American friends haven't liked it. We included launching for Iran in our plans.
- Alp
I read that as FFS MS rather than FF SMS - I liked mine more ;-)
- Graeme Spice
Thanks, Alp.
- Micah Wittman
Oh, you're welcome :)
- Alp
Thanks for the update Alp
- Nicholas James
That's great! Now I'll just wait till they have it in the Netherlands as well - or move to the states, whichever comes first ;)
- James Kuypers
@James I've no idea about how many of FriendFeed users are from Netherlands or other European countries. I think Russia and UK are the at the 1st and 2nd place about FriendFeed usage. Do you have any idea?
- Alp
and Canada?
- Zachary TG
It maybe launched soon.
- Alp
great idea...i also hope it will launched in Italy very soon! :-D
- bevero
Good morning, FriendFeed. I would have posted a bored Monday photo, but I already packed my webcam. This will have to suffice. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
LB - all new for '10!, Miriella, MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS and 8 other people liked this
what a face
- VAL D. Zone
That's the story.
- Steven Perez
Why should somebody pack a webcam if he's not gonna have internet for 1 month? Or did I miss something since the day before yesterday? A nice picture though.
- Ton Zijp
DC Cop Waves Gun at Snowball Fight! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Kurt Färber, Christian Burns , Alex Scrivener and 2 other people liked this
ilyas eralp to ilyas's feed, Funny Pics and Videos, Fun Stuff, Funny Funny, Funny Stuff, Fun Stuff, Kinda Funny Pictures, Interesting Videos
revenge
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Soccer with style - http://naurunappula.com/z...
Ton Zijp, Ibrahim El Issaoui, Ruchira S. Datta and T. Brent, technopeasant liked this
Scrooge McDuck "Bah! Humbug!" - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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RAPatton, Michael W. May and Ton Zijp liked this
Mete to Mete's feed, electronic music, indietronica, muzik paylasim platformu, FF Müzik Paylaşım, Music Video
Zoot Woman -It's Automatic http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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redrospect, Ton Zijp, Fulya and 2 other people liked this
The Dark Side of Nature - ReflectionOf.Me >> Awesome photographs! - http://reflectionof.me/the-dar...
veli bahceci, Ton Zijp, Creative Photography and 3 other people liked this
"At first glance, Simen Johan's photographs and sculptures remind me of the beauty and grandness of the great outdoors. Upon further review, I get this eerie feeling that something dark and strange is going on. Each of his images come from as many as one hundred negatives. The images are then scanned and put together digitally to create masterpieces of light and shadow. It’s a technique that has been described as “painting by photography.”"
- Kimber Scott
from Bookmarklet
I love bison, and this picture is just too perfect. I love the dark ominous feeling, like a storm before it starts.
- Heather
I really dislike the American way of quoting prices without tax. When I have to pay for something, I mostly care about how much money I have to pay overall, and not where the money goes.
Anton Bosman, Sebastian, John μller and 31 other people liked this
While this is not too bad when all you have to deal with is a 7-9% sales tax, it's annoying in the case of airline tickets, where "taxes and fees" may be up to 50% of the overall price.
- Tudor Bosman
That's not American, that's the airlines
- Johnny Worthington
They've been trying to pass a law in Canada to force airlines to advertise their fares "all-in" but the airline lobbyists are winning so far.
- Kenton
yeah the sales tax can annoy me to no end... mostly because I'm a total scrooge. Also when they add euro VAT to stuff just before checkout on Amazon, I always have to think about why the price is suddenly 25% higher (Danish VAT is 25% normally included the advertised price)
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Forcing them to add tax in will just make things cost more. Because lets say something costs $299, or $320 with tax. If they're forced to advertise total price, then guess what will happen? Retailers *love* their -9 pricing schemes. They'll raise the price to make the total have that 9 at the end again. They certainly won't *lower* the price to do that...
- Otto
Otto: the same argument applies for any change in the pricing structure. Suppose the situation were reversed: suppose prices included the tax, and retailers were considering removing the tax from advertised prices; they'd rise the price such that the new advertised price ended with a 9...
- Tudor Bosman
from Android
Tudor: I agree with your logic. Both cases are true. Which means that I'm for the status quo, I suppose. :)
- Otto
Completely agree Tudor. That was the biggest shocks when we moved to the US. Back in Turkey, everything is tax included and you know how much you are going to spend: no surprises.
- Eren Emre Kanal
<side-rant>Checked on price for round trip flight from a Calgary, Canada to LAX. IT WAS DOUBLE THE PRICE compared to LAX to Calgary. Same exact flight time, other parameters except reverse starting point that is.</side-rant>
- Micah Wittman
There's a political reason why some would want it separate: it makes it more visceral what the government's take is. You feel the sales tax as an increase on what you wanted to pay.
- Ray Cromwell
Not including the tax encourages consumption. We need the economic stimulus :).
- Gary Burd
Otto: also, people understand very, very well how to compare prices -- "lower is better". This is why a merchant deciding to include the tax in the advertised price unilaterally would lose in the marketplace; people would see their prices as higher, and would be dissuaded from shopping there, even before thinking about the fact that taxes are included. This is also why, I think, prices...
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- Tudor Bosman
Micah, an article in the Calgary Herald on Saturday had someone compare prices from Toronto to Vancouver (about $1,000.00) v.s. Buffalo to Seattle and then shuttle to Vancouver (about $500.00). The taxes are killers.
- Kenton
I don't want it to be different than how I expect it
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
There is a big problem that can occur for the companies with this adding the tax into the price and displaying the total on the tags & advertising instead of the base price. Think about a large chain of stores with locations all over the US, where the tags and advertising are made in bulk and then distributed to stores all over the country. Or the stuff is pre-tagged at a central...
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- April Russo (app103)
That's why you abolish state taxes with a single GST
- Bryce Roney
from iPhone
Then what do you do about areas like in depressed parts of NJ where they have a 50% reduction in the taxes to encourage businesses to open shop and create jobs there, and people to go and shop there?
- April Russo (app103)
Japan made it a law that retailer must make it crystal clear if it is with or without. Lots of parentheses after prices now. In japan it's five pct consumption tax everywhere but airlines still play games!
- Rick Cogley
from iPhone
Taxes that are not separated are taxes that are not noticed (and thus, easier to raise). Take a look at gasoline taxes in the US, the amount of which few at the pump could identify if they had to. Keeping them out of the price helps to keep them lower overall.
- Andrew Leyden
If you abolished state and local sales taxes and replaced it with a single GST, wouldn't that mean that in some states that didn't have a sales tax, that consumers would be suddenly paying more? And what gets taxed? Some states would lose money if you remove the tax from some items, while other states consumers would end up paying more because items that were previously exempt from sales tax, now are taxed.
- April Russo (app103)
We need an augmented reality app that can just tell you as you have the camera on the price what the real price is :-) Yes lazy don't want to do my own calculations solution, but sales tax is always stupid % like 7% or 8%
- Rasmus Lauridsen
I liked it better when NJ had a 5% tax. Paid less and it was easy to figure out in your head. Now it's 7% and 3.5% in Urban Enterprise Zones.
- April Russo (app103)
April: that's a fair point; what I'm suggesting would make life harder for retailers, while making it easier for consumers. It's a worthy trade-off, in my opinion. Also, stores that operate in multiple locations already have knowledge about the local tax rules; after all, they need to calculate and remit the taxes to the appropriate authorities; that information now has to end up on labels.
- Tudor Bosman
Although big box stores would probably not be affected. The few big stores I shop at (Safeway, Walgreens, Fry's, Costco, Best Buy) don't have labels on items, but only on the shelves (except for bulk groceries and meats, which are presumably cut, weighed, and labeled in the local store anyway). And they already print different labels for different stores, because of time-limited, regional promotions.
- Tudor Bosman
Rasmus, here the sales tax is 8.25%. To compute this, divide the price by twelve, then subtract 1% of the result.
- Ruchira S. Datta
One part of the reason why they're separate is to prevent double-taxation: the revenue before tax is considered earned income, and is taxed as such, leaving the sales tax collected separate and untaxed. If they're rolled into one price, it's harder to determine if the sales tax was charged, or if the price was simply higher. Additionally, since sales tax is a levy on the consumer, not...
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- Mark Trapp
Taxes and fees are a little over $30 on my cable/internet bill, almost $60 for my water/trash/electricity. It's so depressing to open my bill to see the total, then getting to the bottom of the page or the next page to see all the little extra fees.
- Admiral Anika
Mark: they can be separate on the receipt, and bundled together on the tag. Or display both: (in small font) $35 + $2.89 tax = (big font) $37.89.
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, the obligation is on the consumer, not the retailer, to pay the levy to the government. One other thing I'm thinking about is there is a subset of the population that's tax exempt or partially tax exempt, and would not pay the big, stated price. So then is it a discount, or was the price incorrectly stated? Is the retailer trying to tax an individual who is exempt? Leaving it up...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark: How is the tax-exempt population dealt with today? Do I go into Walgreens and show some form of ID at the checkout counter, and I don't get charged sales tax? I don't think I've ever seen this happen.
- Tudor Bosman
I know some *items* are tax-exempt (food, and possibly others, depending on locality), but that's not a problem; the store already knows which ones they are, as they levy the tax appropriately.
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor: yeah. You have documentation either on file with the store (or you bring the documentation to the register) that states you're exempt, and you wind up not paying it. NPOs, certain income levels in certain jurisdictions, and public workers in some special cases are all tax-exampt. Having worked with sales tax over the years, it's a hard concept to convey when it all goes into the...
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- Mark Trapp
Sales Tax exemption depends on various local and state laws. Stores deal with it automatically for cases where certain types of items are exempt (like food items in Kentucky are tax-free). Other cases are where items are purchased for resale, in which you generally have to set up an account with the stores in question and file documentation with them of your tax-exempt status. And that...
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- Otto
Thinking about this a little more, I guess the point I'm making is that the government only intercedes after the act of sale: that is, the retailer isn't in business with the government. The setup that exists now is that the retailer controls their business up until the point of sale, where their hand is forced to collect taxes for the government. When you change the advertised price to...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark: I can see your point, although I don't empathize with it :) Maybe it's because I lived outside of the US until 1997, and the system I describe is in use throughout Europe; it was baffling to me to not know exactly how much I have to pay until the register. Two prices on the tag would, I think, satisfy most folks: if you're tax-exempt, you pay the first one, and the second one (including tax) is in a bigger font, simply because that's what most consumers will pay.
- Tudor Bosman
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"De OV-chipkaart moet reizen eenvoudiger maken, maar het systeem gaat onder meer uit van perfecte mensen zonder lichamelijke handicap of ouderdomsverschijnselen. 25 problemen op een rij. [...]"
- Peter
from Bookmarklet
So, in your opinion, be honest now...is Friendfeed still alive and kicking? (update: seemingly so. :) )
Mitchell McKenna, Alfredo, LonelyBob and 61 other people liked this
yes. very much so.
- John Wang
Yes, but has started to develop some health problems and needs a doctor's visit.
- Alex Scoble
It is for me
- Mo Kargas
Yep
- Johnny Worthington
It definitely is for me.
- Curtiss Grymala
I just got here. It's the best platform.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
for me it is .................
- VAL D. Zone
It's still kicking :). A little less a guess but still :)
- alfred westerveld
Yes.
- Jim in Real Time
hell ya ......!
- johnpiercy
Yup.
- Spidra Webster
Hell yes it is! All the fine dudes and finest bitches still be rocking the Casbah daily and nightly here on the station with it all! K-FFD!
- Morgan Haley
Yep, still kickin'!
- Beau Liening
from iPhone
Does a bear poop in the woods?
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Ok, so I don't live here anymore, but I still check in for conversation and positivity.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
for sure
- Josh Haley
Still alive but the momentum and will to live is gone -- and the sale and virtual abandonment was like shutting out the lights in the middle of a party -- a signal for everybody to go home.
- Brian Sullivan
wow. For you maybe, Brian.
- Jim in Real Time
Yes!
- Anne Bouey
But I am still here.
- Brian Sullivan
Yep. Certainly not as crazy as it was 'back in the day' but it's definitely still kicking.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm making a concerted effort to pop in and find some great stuff to share
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
As far as I can tell, it's still alive.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
TBH, I feel like I use FF much more now that before the acquisition. So for me, yes, it's very much alive and kicking. 8^D
- Chieze Okoye
Yep
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
The Google real-time announcement certainly didn't hurt!!!!
- Charlie Anzman
Honestly, it's not that much different -- plenty to chat about, and plenty to chat with -- and it's still storing all my web finds perfectly. There's an extremely considerate and passionate community. So... sure!
- Christopher Galtenberg
yep
- Wayne Sutton
Yes.
- pea
Yes.
- Kamilah Gill
Yes
- Bonnie Foster
Somewhat less so than the previous old days...
- TrafficBug
being bought by Facebook has definitely dampened my enthusiasm, but yeah, its still alive and kicking
- Jeffrey Canton
Still seems pretty lively to me.
- Gordon Herd
This was asked eight hours ago and has gotten 19 likes so far. Not a resounding "yes."
- Robert Scoble
Compare to @ericschmidt who was added to 700+ lists and 12,000+ followers in 24 hours over on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
But 34 comments, and nearly all "Yes".
- Nils Sandin
Nils: sorry, that's not a resounding yes either. 34 people do not a service make.
- Robert Scoble
yes, affirmative.
- bora "head" basman
The service works for me, so I don't fret about the other new or old services. Both have their place.
- Nils Sandin
werd.
- imabonehead
Haha. I must say I'm starting to see more and more threads like this. The discussion is definitely coming back.
- Roberto Bonini
Twitter for headlines, FF for discussions.
- Nils Sandin
it is to me
- barbarars
It is to me - it all depends on what you make of it
- Jesse Stay
Who is here is replying "yes". Who's not here any more just won't reply. The fact is few weeks ago you wouldn't have asked :) [ah, this means it is not kicking as in the past]
- Markingegno - Donato
from Android
I would say yes. It had a slump period for me for a couple of months, but now I'm putting more in it and getting more from it in return.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Yes!
- Iván Abrego
Tricky question. Nothing else out there has this feature-set, and AFAIC that's the killer, I use FF because it's the best platform. Maybe some people drifting away since the sale, but OTOH there are new people joining. My buddies Nat and Brent from Calgary both joined around the time of the sale and have both really gotten into it. I have more discussions here than on Twitter, and I think that's true for a lot of people.
- Louis Simoneau
And @Scoble: the fact that you don't get 12 000+ followers on FF makes it less attractive to social media marketing types, which actually makes it BETTER as a platform for meeting and interacting with real people. I have 'friends' on Twitter that I've back-and-forthed with a few times but couldn't really tell you much about, whereas here, I feel like I really KNOW people like Derrick, Jandy, Monique, etc.
- Louis Simoneau
Yup
- Maryam Ardakani
from FreshFeed
its going to die soon
- Farshad
FF is like a small country town. Not a big population but people stop and say "hello".
- Barak B
Yes, indeed!
- Andrew Terry
Is this a bit like a band you feel you've discovered becoming mainstream?
- plooptionary
Yes, it's very much alive and kicking!
- Michael Fidler
+Louis Simoneau (& I answered above earlier)
- Kamilah Gill
as far as I can tell, yes.
- Derek Coward
I'm here
- Jimminy Fuller
Still alive. :)
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
You bet. Still the best interface and most interesting conversations
- Alan Morris
from iPhone
Yep. Cranking along just like Jaiku.
- Ken Sheppardson
Yep, I just saw that one of those Twitter Social Media Guru's found the place and followed 4k people in 5 minutes.
- Jimminy Fuller
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- ★ Soner Gönül
yes. those who say otherwise can go somewhere else.
- Aron Michalski
from BuddyFeed
Hey Zee, from what platform did you originally post your question? I'm seeing it via Friendfeed by way of a friend.
- Rich Reader
@Rich on friendfeed itself
- Zee.
Only to some hardcore dedicated FF'ers. Other then that its just here for Robert Scoble to come on and preach how every worthy tech person he follows is on Twitter and how this site is dead.
- CW™
No. We're all dead. Go away.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I'm standing under the Mistletoe O_O
- Micah Wittman
Zee, regarding your question, and I'm no Godin apologist, but his '1000 true fans' comes to mind http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...
- Micah Wittman
And regarding Robert's statement, OF COURSE a founder of Google will get thousands people who click the follow button. Then what? I look forward to Eric having 12,000 individual conversations this week, so someone ping me when that happens :) I've gleaned more valuable insights into the thought process and perspective of Google/Googlers from being in and around the conversations started by DeWitt on Friendfeed than I have in any other way.
- Micah Wittman
I'm not done yet. Christopher Galtenberg http://friendfeed.com/zee... and Louis Simoneau http://friendfeed.com/zee... make great points.
- Micah Wittman
Sure is
- Herb Hernandez
I have to excuse myself for not being very active for quite a while: I was being busy organising the Dutch Bloggies. I do think FriendFeed is still alive, but I sure wished there were more Dutch people to keep up a conversation with. It's making it difficult, now I'm out of organising for a week, to start up being involved again. I'm jealous at the Egyptian & Italian people, who seem to have a whole community here.
- Ton Zijp
Friendfeed is immortal, perfect, the best. Friendfeed will never die. ... in fact, the end of behemoths like Facebook and Twitter will be tweeted on Friendfeed.!
- Petr Buben
Always..!
- ★ Soner Gönül
Just got back into using FF more heavily and find it much more enjoyable to any of the Twitter clients I've found. I can actually engage with the people that I "follow" and learn more about them and find interests instead of just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff like I feel I do on Twitter
- Ian Rudy
still here.
- Mike Nencetti
alive
- gemella
kick
- Kevin Fox
Yes. The primary thing that has changed is the content.
- Steven Perez
And it no longer buys us flowers anymore, the bitch.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think this thread proves what is fact....
- Mathew™ one of a kind
WOW - I guess so!!! May have to come off digest...
- Robyn Hawk
O Hai There! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Am I the only one who got tired of responding to posts that ask if the site is still alive? "Charlie, you there? Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Can you here me *now*?....I gave up on 'em after Scoble's 2nd one. Just ignore
- Itachi
For Krynsky
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The forecast says it doesn´t freeze over until thursday this week: http://www.yr.no/place... But that particular sign is perhaps Hell, Michigan, USA ?
- Thomas Bøhm
Pretty sure it is, Thomas. I was there in the summer, once. Mostly Lutheran.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
There's also a Hell in Norway ...
- Rene Wirtz
Ha ha! FINALLY! There are some supermodels out there that owe me a couple rounds in the sack.
- Morgan Haley
You keep holding on to that, Morgan...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Morgan, aren't you glad you had the chutzpah to ask?
- pitlord
Rene: The forecast was for the Norwegian one, and a search on the same Norwegian weather site shows that there are lots, but my favourite is probably Merry Hell, Mississippi, USA. http://www.yr.no/soek...
- Thomas Bøhm
The weather for Rochester, MN is looking bad this week as well. Hell is due to freeze over here ETA Tuesday
- Itachi
*LOL* Merry Hell! In Mississippi no less!
- Rene Wirtz
Hah...
- Mark Krynsky
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