I did that once, they protested at a KFC across from an eclectic local video store. there's no parking near the video place so you typically have to park near the KFC. The protesters bombarded me with their rhetoric, and so annoyed it made me that I got my off the wall movies, went to KFC and enjoyed original recipe in front of them walking down the street back to my car. I wasn't even hungry.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
I'm the oldest of five. The oldest two (me and my brother Phil) are left-handed, the other three kids are right-handed. Our parents are right-handed too. It's too early to tell for my two kids (1 1/2 and 3 1/2), but I think they're going to turn out right-handed. There you go, nine data points for your son's survey!
- Stephen Mack
My dad broke is right hand two times in a row when he was six. So things he learned then, like writing, he does with his left hand. He also still eats his soup using his left hand. For the rest he does everthing with his right hand. One cool trick he has up his sleeve is that he can start writing a sentence with his left hand, switch the pen mid-sentence, and complete the sentence with his right hand. As for me, I'm a plain boring righty.
- Jeroen Van Goey
Residual effects of childhood polio have forced me to be right handed but according to medical professionals, I ought to have been left-handed. (That may skew your results a bit!)
- Jill O'Neill
I am left handed, however I use my right hand to scroll up and down and to search the web with the mouse. Using the left hand is just weird for me.
- Patrick
from twhirl
My feeling is, don’t trash something until you’ve tried it. Perhaps if the Pope tried sex, he’d feel very differently about only having sex to conceive. - http://fredwilson.vc/post...
"Two economists at Washington University in St Louis have published a paper arguing that copyright and patent are a net drag on the economy and should be abolished. "From a public policy view, we'd ideally like to eliminate patent and copyright laws altogether," says Levine, John H. Biggs Distinguished Professor of Economics. "There's plenty of protection for inventors and plenty of protection and opportunities to make money for creators. It's not that we see this as some sort of charitable act that people are going to invent and create things without earning money. Evidence shows very strongly there are lots of ways to make money without patents and copyright." Levine and Boldrin point to students being sued for 'pirating' music on the internet and AIDS patients in Africa dying because they cannot afford expensive drugs produced by patent holders as examples of the failure of the current system. Boldrin, the Joseph Gibson Hoyt Distinguished Professor in Arts & Sciences and Chair of the economics departme"
- CW™
from Bookmarklet
2. A room would have been a permanent repository of info about that event.
- Robert Scoble
3. I could have mixed searches from Twitter search along with searches from Google News and Google Blog searches.
- Robert Scoble
For instance, for the CES/Consumer Electronics Show I created a room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... -- this room has feeds from quite a few blogs and from quite a few live searches.
- Robert Scoble
Truth is you could still do it. But what would be missing is the instant reaction through comments. With work, you could also reshare the most interesting threads and have them there (sans comments).
- Louis Gray
Richard: exactly. I could have pulled in Flickr photos and YouTube videos.
- Robert Scoble
Louis: yeah, but now it would be polluted. It would be much more interesting to do while the event is going down.
- Robert Scoble
What about live video streams, can those be included?
- Richard A.
Not a screw up at all. To be honest, I had no idea any of this could be done with a FriendFeed room, so I've learned something, and I'm sure others will here as well.
- Brandon Mendelson
Richard: sorta. You can certainly put a URL in to the live stream while it's live. Afterward you can pull in the RSS feed for the video recording.
- Robert Scoble
www.frienddeck.com can have multiple searches on one screen at a time.
- Paul Kinlan
Brandon: actually that's what I'm hoping that next time there's a news event like this that other people create the rooms so that we can quickly get caught up on a news event just by visiting a room.
- Robert Scoble
Really - whatever we lost from the oversight we just gained in your explaination :)
- Soulhuntre
I love it. You are learning and helping me along the way as well. Thanks for sharing. Next time you will be on it...and maybe I will be too!
- Troy Malone
Paul: you should create a "super like" that lets me automatically shove items I see in frienddeck into a specific room for others to view. I'd use it more often then and that would be crack for important news events.
- Robert Scoble
my fear is that all this valuable information (especially the one from Twitter yesterday), will not be here in a few weeks.
- Orli Yakuel
Richard: it doesn't disappear it just becomes very hard to get to.
- Robert Scoble
yeah, but if you feed search terms into google reader you have an archive for certain keywords. Then can download that locally for posterity.
- Richard A.
Twitter is not saving the data (or letting you see/fine it) after few month. I am not sure about friendfeed though. but if it's information that coming from twitter, you wont be able to find it here after a while.
- Orli Yakuel
Hi Robert, I think I might be able to "copy" an entry from a searcg to a room and "auto like" it as well.
- Paul Kinlan
Robert, you can't find data from 2007... when did you join Twitter?
- Orli Yakuel
Only keeps 40 pages worth of tweets, but the database increases, when we look at post number.
- Richard A.
Another necessary element is load distribution. Quickly sites with first hand images ground to a halt. Maybe we need a site we post to which distributes and caches info for subsequent mass sharing on ff/twitter
- mal
Random thought: Google News does a good job of bundling stories about the same event. Maybe FriendFeed should do the same thing, and when a significant term starts getting a lot of buzz, a special 'newsroom' gets auto-generated and starts aggregating items...
- Foomandoonian
Here's one caveat: If you reshare to a room, geoRSS info doesn't come along with the item. This is of concern to me since I made OurDoings, currently the ONLY way to email geocoded photos from a mobile and have them show up in real time on FriendFeed with a map.
- Bruce Lewis
I'll put my name on the list of people learning a lot about the use of Friendfeed rooms here. Does anyone know of links where these aspects are reviewed in detail?
- Peter Efland
Great idea @scobleizer, "get a room" is a great idea to capture breaking news. Like multiple search.twitter.com streams. Smart. Next time.
- Mike Reynolds
interesting. I've never thought about using rooms that way. Would non room members see the posts in the room though?
- Thomas Hawk
Posts to the room wouldn't show up in people's normal feeds unless they join the room.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I would think that would be a limitation. Especially with breaking news. Not everyone would see the posts, especially right away. It would be invisible to most people on FF I'd think. You could of course post a link to the room in your own FF feed at least to let your friends know you'd make it.
- Thomas Hawk
the trouble w/ rooms is that they are not easily visible w/ most FF UIs. once created, they don't 'leak' anything to the public stream and lots of folks will miss the data. need a 'fix' for that.
- MikeAmundsen
I think Mike and Thomas are right. An option to make room posts appear in people's regular streams would be a win. Right now people just post about the room, or comment on others' posts on the topic. Works OK, but not the best.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Well, if you want a hacky work around: create your room, pull that room feed through something like Yahoo Pipes and then pull the pipes feed into your homefeed. People will see it then, and it should be marked in the URL that it's a FF room.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
you might be hard pressed to get people to join a room for a realtime event like that. most people would never see it unless you spend half the time promoting the room. Might work for a story as big as 9-11, but this story is pretty much over.
- Josh Haley
Good shout, Paul (pph my first post via the real-time page!). :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
there, there, next time...next plane crash
- sofarsoShawn
Paul, nice app. Any plans to make it show media?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Yeah, Will try and show media soon. Need to work out a way todo it with breaking the columns whilst make it look good.
- Paul Kinlan
I will probably add in twitter search into it soon as well.
- Paul Kinlan
Thomas: yes, anyone can see into the rooms I've created. We could create a private room that would be members only, though.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone can see what's in the room when they go to its URL, but I don't think that's what he was asking.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
this idea of creating a FF room for news events is interesting. I've been thinking about a related topic, how media newsrooms can use semantic technolgies to identify news opportunties, and engage their audiences.
- John Cass
from twhirl
oooh! man, it's almost so obvious. that for sure would have been nice!
- SolidSmack
from twhirl
I think you should also consider a room for this discussion. there was a nice coverage of the plane crash on thomas hawk's page http://friendfeed.com/e..., that too could have turned into a nice room
- xavier vespa
I just added a feed for the Friendfeed Davos room to Google Reader. If you are already a GR user, this URL should open the feed directly in GR: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Sean McBride
Robert, you did an amazing covering the plane crash (and I think I'm not the only one who would say that)! Don't beat yourself up :)
- Michael Forian
Robert, thanks for being obsessive enough to think this through. It's exactly what I've been trying to puzzle out about FF and how to use it in breaking news situations. This discussion is extremely helpful.
- Karoli
It'd be very handy if rather than re-publishing items into a room, you could just create what amounts to a symbolic link to an existing item. You wouldn't lose any comments, no existing flow would be disrupted, it's just that a pointer/mirror would appear in the room when you added the link.
- Ken Sheppardson
As of Jan 15, 2009 4:48pm EST twitter.com/jkrums had 167 friends, 192 followers, 480 tweets (I snipped it to compare later, which is right now).
- Micah Wittman
As of Jan 16, 2009 8:48pm EST twitter.com/jkrums has 2,982 friends, 3,063 followers, 487 updates.
- Micah Wittman
Internet Safety 101: "Stacy Realized He Was No Boy... It Was Motherfucking Cthulhu" (brought to you by The Ad Council) - http://raincoaster.com/2009...
There's actually some interesting stuff in this Seth Godin post but ... it's like the record is skipping in Seth's brain - from one idea to the next.
- AJ Kohn
I stayed up until about 2:30am that night, chain smoking and talking to friends who saw my tweet and had responded - THANK YOU. I sent a formal request for time to transition The Commons program to whoever is to take it over: 'A week should do it,' I said. It was denied. (It would be unfair to give anyone affected by the lay-offs special treatment.) It's not just my treatment I worry about here. Such a sudden movement makes it especially hard to continue the program effectively, at least for a while. So silly. I sent a few tersely helpful emails before my email account was closed. Couldn't resist. Don't let The Commons die, you buggers! Can't you see how wonderful it is?!?!?"
- Thomas Hawk
From TIME Magazine: "In one of the craziest elections in American history, he overcame a lack of experience, a funny name, two candidates who are political institutions and the racial divide to become the 44th President of the United States."
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
Deservedly so. I don't think anyone else could have taken this title this year.
- Jeff Ventura
I just heard on MSNBC that they were also considering Sec. Treas. Paulson due to the amount of power he's received, but TIME has been playing it safe with the POTY choices for years.
- Mark Trapp
being an outside observer to the mania, what i see is a very slick politician who was chosen by the rich and powerful as a more palatable "leader of the free world" - he pulled in more money than the other guy, and it wasn't from the little people.
- ernie yacub
I would have to disagree with you there Ernie. I donated to Obama, and so did a lot of people like me. I am neither rich or powerful. :)
- Nick
And his being chosen surprises anyone because ... ?
- Great Scott!
Scott: it's not meant to be surprising. TIME Magazine's Person of the Year is an institution. Today, they announced it for 2008.
- Mark Trapp