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There were some bugs in the "Twitter publishing" code that caused some entries to get published on Twitter when they should not, and others to not get published when they should. I've cleaned up the code to eliminate these problems, but it's possible some settings were lost. Please verify your settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
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I apologize for any lost or unwanted tweets. Please let me know if you spot any other problems.
- Paul Buchheit
Cheers for this Paul. How cool is it that one of the founders of FF still gets his hands dirty in the code. Once a coder, always a coder :-)
- Keith Bennett
from Nambu
Thanks Keith :) By the way, if none of your posts are making it through to twitter, it may be that you changed your password. To verify, simply click "Save changes" at http://friendfeed.com/setting... and we will check that your Twitter credentials are still good (and sign-out then back in to fix).
- Paul Buchheit
Matthew, in general all the same settings that the old ui had are available on the new one (plus a few more), though they are now divided on to several different pages. You should be able to reach all of the the settings by clicking on the word "settings" below your name in the top-right part of the page (the dialog shows a few, and links to all the others).
- Paul Buchheit
You can filter by service by searching for service:twitter (or whatever service you like), and of course that can be combined with other search operators as well. See http://friendfeed.com/search... for more.
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks Paul, sounds like you pulled an all nighter to fix these.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, unfortunately the code had gotten rather involved since it was trying to support both the old ui and the new (the old ui worked on a per-service basis instead of letting you decide individually on each entry), and the logic sometimes became inconsistent. I simplified it quite a bit, so there should be less room for bugs now :)
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks, Paul. :)
- Josh Haley
Nice try, Matthew, I congratulate you on being awake, and carpe-diem'ing Paul here, but have to disappoint you - if FF wanted us to have favicons, they'd already issued us our favicons. Do you see any favicons that made the transition from earlier version. No? You think Paul nuked them by mistake... be my guest, and I'll be looking forward to the next couple of years' worth of your pleading for favicons when you could be learning to live both here and thereater without them.
- ianf ⌘
I'm a bit confused about the "Post my FriendFeed entries on Twitter by default" and "FriendFeed (when there's no Cc box)" options. Are these exclusive? Does checking the first one mean all my FriendFeed posts will get posted to Twitter even if I uncheck the Cc box?
- Tony Ruscoe
Paul, thank you thank thank you for the "Check CC Twitter box by default" option!!! That's one step closer to only needing Friendfeed. I'm almost ready to dump Google Reader AND Twitter now!
- caj needs a haircut
Thanks Paul!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Tony, the "cc twitter by default" option sets whether then checkbox is checked or unchecked by default in the share box and bookmarklet. The other option ("when there's no cc box") applies mostly to the API and other off-site interfaces, such as email (mail share@friendfeed.com) and IM. For any given post, only one setting applies.
- Paul Buchheit
I publish to Twitter by default but now link directly to the source. I figure that those finding outside of FF want to go to the source (while those reading on FF are already seeing the discussion).
- Mike Reynolds
Hi Paul, about 15 mins ago I "shared" an item from FF here to "my feed" and "cc Twitter". But still not showing up on Twitter. Just thought I'd let you know.
- Brian
Thanks Brian. It turns out there was a bug in the "Share" feature that sometimes caused us to sometimes not send the tweets (the new code errors on the side of not sending tweets). It's fixed now though. Please let me know if you spot any others.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, that did the trick! Thanks for looking into that. BTW, that was a quick fix! Just shared an item on FF and it pushed thru to Twitter instantly.
- Brian
Hello Paul, when I try to publish just my google talk status to twitter and have "Link to source site instead of FriendFeed conversation" selected, it doesn't send the tweet. I'm not sure if this is because twitter seems to be having difficulty right now or if it's the lack of a source link because it's a google talk status?
- ehaab
ehaab, publishing to Twitter was broken this morning, so no updates went out. It should work fine now however, including publishing updates from Google Talk. Sorry about that.
- Paul Buchheit
thanks! it was driving me batty trying to figure out why it wasn't taking.
- ehaab
I think it's still broken. I just posted via the Bookmarklet and CC'd twitter... no go. EDIT: my latest one just posted, must be intermittent.
- Daniel Sims
Hi Paul, Mine is still not working. I have also checked the setting page.
- zahedzadeh
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
SteVe C, AJ Batac :), Brent and 254 other people liked this
You can see all of your email settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! :)
- Matt Ruiz
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
Great! Thanks! Love FF!
- Scott Monaco
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lovely. Thanks guys.
- Mitchell Tsai
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
WOW. that's really helpful！
- K.D.
Looks like a great addition for those who are not embedded on the site. Nice intro.
- Louis Gray
Cool!
- Josh Haley
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ?
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret
- Ahsan Ali
Cool
- Nimaa
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
Nice addition!
- Michael Fidler
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Friendfeed's Francisco
That's a cool feature
- Xitong Liu
FWIW this isn't working for me any longer. Perhaps that has something to do with my Gmail settings though.
- Mark J
Emails no longer get sent except for Subscriptions. The last non-sub email I recieved was July 15th, 2011.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I still get them.
- AJ Batac :)
I get these every day.
- CW✔
Improve FriendFeed for your friends by recommending subscriptions - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Laura (goldie), dgw, Mitchell Tsai and 170 other people liked this
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Nice! Friends, please send me recommendations :)
- joey
Excellent feature, gooood idea!
- Susan Beebe
Very cool =)
- FFing Enigma
Cool stuff.
- Mike Bracco
gr8
- حاج مهدی ©
Uh, it tells me that Scoble, among others, could use the recommendations. WTF? Perhaps I have too few subscriptions for this to work.
- Fred Yankowski
more good stuff
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Finally a better recommendation
- directeur
I'd still love an "e-mail this item" feature, similar to Google Reader.
- Jesse Stay
great idea!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Cool! Beats the heck out of #followfriday!!
- Larry Hawes
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
User-driven...I like.
- Josh Haley
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
Definitely better than #followfriday.
- Bernie Goldbach
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
fatma küfür istiyor
- Joan Miro
This morning we changed the format of FriendFeed subscription email messages to include more information about people who subscribe to you. Please let us know if you see any problems, and keep an eye out for more email improvements in the future.
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Thank you very much, Casey! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you ff very good :)
- Nimaa
Nicely done :)
- LANjackal
Awesome! Now lets see support for more web services...
- Jac Falcon
saw that, and it was mega-helpful. bravo.
- Nathan Chase
Shoot. Now I need a subscription.
- Josh Haley
I'm all for improving the format of notifications, but wonder (aloud) if it is such a smart move to include the Approve/Reject link right at the top (unless it only appears in private feeds to which someone has requested access). Right now we have the option of blocking/ rejecting a subscriber at any time but presumably not at the very outset. This may lead to more of a walled gardens' mentality, already very prevalent at FF.
- ianf ⌘
ianf: approve/reject is only for private feeds. Public feeds just have a link to subscribe back :)
- Benjamin Golub
Nice
- Grant Bierman
that's great!
- K.D.
LIKEY.
- Steven Perez
I noticed this one! Such informations about people who subscribe to me on FriendFeed are useful, and makes it easy to quickly get in the conversation. Thanks for the good job!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
w00t!
- David Cook
For features like this one, I'm ok to receive html emails. -MANY- html emails ;-)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
The new emails are AWESOME!
- April
Gmail automatically showed me the images in a subscription email, even though I never told it to (you know how gmail has the 'display images below' option). further, it doesn't give me the option to hide the images. not that I'd want to, but how are you bypassing gmail's security feature to hide the images?
- chrisofspades
Chris, we don't do anything special. I'm not sure how gmail decides what images to show, you'd have to contact them or check the gmail help.
- Casey Muller
Casey, you sure FriendFeed's founders didn't use some of their "we created Gmail" mojo? ;)
- chrisofspades
Chris, the "show images" only applies to external images hosted on other sites. Gmail doesn't show those by default because doing so would allow people to "bug" email. We include the images with the email so that they can be displayed immediately.
- Paul Buchheit
ahhhh that explains it. thanks Paul.
- chrisofspades
from email
The iPhone 3GS will be available for $199 starting June 19. Old iPhone price cut to $99. some rumors do come true http://venturebeat.com/2009...
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WOW
- zsafwan
and 2 years on AT&T... no deal.
- Daniel Sims
Tell more about iphone 3, plz.....
- tonybishop01
www.1yearloan.net, it helps you!
- tonybishop01
What is your Twitter URL? What do you tweet about? Mine is http://twitter.com/koltreg... and I tweet about all sorts :-) #twitter
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Feel free to follow me. This thread could get messy. :-) #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
Sorry I had to delete the first post of this, so apologises for the few that posted their URLs on that one.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/jcunwired I could use some more followers too. I hope you folks aren't bots! :)
- JCunwired
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/niczak -- I tweet about the following: Programming, databases, parenting, living & enjoying life, and involvement in lots of local activities here in Northern Nevada.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Thanks, Nicholas.
- Kol Tregaskes
Well I'll still be on Twitter once FF is integrated into FB. Join me on Twitter? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/chaz2b my posts start here for what i post on twitter
- chaz2b
you rock, Kol! Good community building here.
- Valeria Maltoni
http://twitter.com/andrewroche - politics and random stuff (a lot of it from here funnily enough).
- Andrew Roche
I have most of you (didn't have Valeria for some reason, but just added), mine is http://twitter.com/jungleg -- see you on the other side ;)
- Jorge Escobar
Find me at http://twitter.com/andrued... and my news updates at http://twitter.com/gearlive
- Andru Edwards
http://www.twitter.com/jimgold... - photography and social media
- Jim Goldstein
http://twitter.com/magicofpi - you might see a lot of ff.im links there, but I suppose that'll change soon...
- Ryan - @magicofpi
http://twitter.com/jwang392 - web design, iphone app development, hawaii events
- John Wang
http://twitter.com/onWave - I post links from a useful Twitter tool I made... and sometimes mundane stuff...
- Gus
http://twitter.com/fcbosa - social media, blogging, design, inspiration.
- Oguz Serdar
Thanks guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/Chronotope - Mostly I tweet about tech stuff and news local to the Northern Virgina area. I also touch on video games and get some blipping in.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
http://twitter.com/gabediaz - Design, development, WordPress and all things in between.
- Gabe Diaz
http://www.twitter.com/puffadd... I tweet about ninjas lol.
- Jason
I basically tweet politics at http://Twitter.com/hopechat; i follow discussions on books, gardening and general stuff on http://Twitter.com/ruthdfw; grantwriting and freelancing on http://Twitter.com/words101 and for anything related to Dallas and surrounding cities it is http://Twitter.com/NDGEditor
- R. Ferguson
http://twitter.com/movieguyjon - I say weird shit, bitch at random times, and will say more weird shit. Occasionally I'll post fun things too, with a smidgeon of inane. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
Pretty clever way to work in a plug for your timeline.. I like your style, Kol ;)
- Brad McCrorey
Http://Twitter.com/Polizeros cleantech, the economy, leftwing politics
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
from iPhone
http://twitter.com/sonergonul Feel like a star.
- ★ Soner Gönül
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/niron (isn't it obvious?)
- Nir Ben Yona
http://twitter.com/dennis_... (don't forget the underscore) What do I tweet about? Tech, fiction, art, music, politics, comics, and of course my fiction. Occasionally some Seattle or Bremerton related stuff. I also have TwitterFeed tweet my blogs, and I always tweet from Flickr.
- Dennis Jernberg
http://twitter.com/marcoda... Twitting about Communications, Marketing and something about myself :)
- Marco Dal Pozzo [mdp]
http://twitter.com/tofu916 I tweet about black people and I use a lot of foul language. then I repent. follow mi! :)
- Tofu De la Moore
from BuddyFeed
http://twitter.com/hoof I tweet a lot in Dutch, about design, photoshop, 3d and everyday life.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
http://twitter.com/wordsfo... - I actually respond to people to want to chat with me ;-)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
http://twitter.com/alexgamela i tweet about media and journalism, and sometimes silly stuff. also in portuguese.
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
i post about film and television editing/post production, I'm a bit of a gadget nerd, and i like anything funny on the web. i love followers... http://twitter.com/toddzelin
- Todd Zelin
I'm sure you're all interesting but following 6,000 is my limit. ; )
- Liz
http://twitter.com/cgranier - I tweet about many things -usually tech-oriented, reply to everyone who @'s me, and have lately been posting a lot about #FreeMediaVE, bringing attention to the struggle against communism in Venezuela. Feel free to follow me. @ me for a quick follow back. No spammers please.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Thank you all. I hope at least some follow me back else I'll hit my follower limit soon. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/may_gun My music career, interaction with ppl, The Guild, Wiggly Wigglers.
- Spidra Webster
http://twitter.com/casschin - I mostly post up funny/odd web gems and nerdy tech news. Occasionally, I tweet what I eat.
- Cass
http://twitter.com/Felter i tweet about all, but i don't retweet my FF message. From twitter to FF only. if you follow me in FF, you can read my tweet.
- Felter Roberto
from twhirl
http://twitter.com/abrudtkuhl - web strategy & internet marketing + random stuff
- andy brudtkuhl
twitter.com/icetiger
- Kim
twitter.com/andi1984 - elearning, web 2.0
- Andreas S.
http://twitter.com/islanddog Tech, Gaming, and everything in between
- Spencer
http://twitter.com/livepaola (bilingual, in Italian and English)
- Paola Bonomo
http://twitter.com/ozuckan, trilingual, in Turkish, in English, in French, all sort...
- Ozgur Uckan
Thanks again. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/antifreeze Obviously.
- Seth Blank
Twitter.com/mathewballard and I tweet mostly about graphic and web design.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
from iPhone
http://twitter.com/PhilBaumann - I'll tweet about anything stimulating, contentious or jackassy.
- phil baumann
http://twitter.com/alejandroz and I tweet about...everything.
- Alejandro
You know, you could have just started feeding in your tweets here and achieved the same, right? Or would that have been too subtle?
- Mr. Gunn
http://twitter.com/glitterpoet Don't mean to offend but it's usually not religious. Porn, drinking,dancing, music,makeup....I still do healing work. I just don't talk about it much anymore.
- Gabrielle
My twitter stream is the typical... random thought bubbles, food porn pics, and shared items relating to technology, politics, and $$$. http://twitter.com/sean808080 is where you find me. Oh and I like unicorns and fairy dust.
- sean808080
@fossilhuntress or fossilmaitress (I kept getting my email cracked and getting locked out hence the duplicate); all content, linked to digg, delicious... mostly science, paleo and random banter...
- Fossil Huntress
http://twitter.com/joeygibson - I tweet about WDW, Java, Groovy, Scala, iPhone, politics, etc. I'm loads of fun. :-)
- Joey Gibson
http://twitter.com/burak - I tweet about technology, gadgets, stuff that matters
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Fossil, it's @fossilhuntress http://twitter.com/fossilh... The other one doesn't exist.
- Kol Tregaskes
It's @bookhling for me. I usually tweet about DIYBio, computers, books, and what I ate for dinner. :)
- Sung W. Lim
Thanks guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/satanwyj 中文用户 :)
- R093r-
http://twitter.com/lachmir I tweet about dumb stuff
- Friendfeed's Francisco
Thanks everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
I have ceased being a twitter user since they are such twats (management)
- Richard A.
http://twitter.com/erier2003 - I write about technology, journalism, and Star Wars. But mostly Star Wars. :)
- Eric Geller
http://twitter.com/sonergonul Of course ;)
- ★ Soner Gönül
Maybe this is a good time to 'reactivate' this thread. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget the other lists can be found at the hashtag: #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
@ffcode
- ffcode
http://twitter.com/brexians all about #travel #photography #sci-fi #space and #weird! join and joy
- Demetrios the Traveller
http://twitter.com/wangyip - mostly stuff from FF (tech, startups, web apps, sometimes things about math, medicine, fitness) - I've followed a few here on tech stuff (Edit: Thanks Kol for the thread)
- Wang Yip
http://twitter.com/eoghann... - I post sci-fi news (tv, movies, books or comics I'm probably a fan of it), some tech stuff and the occasional round of venting.
- Eoghann Irving
I have Twitter lists now, and I've started one up for FriendFeeders: http://twitter.com/dennis_...; if you want me to add you to it, @-mention me at http://twitter.com/dennis_....
- Dennis Jernberg
Thanks everyone!
- Kol Tregaskes
Just followed you. Btw, mine's - http://twitter.com/jaypee
- JP Habaradas
http://twitter.com/DavidHolmes - Focusing on Internet music, Open Content, and the Social Web. I use lists to group/filter the people I follow.
- David Holmes
I can follow people again, cleared out a lot of users, anyone want a follow? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/1geeky - I tweet about tech and webdesign and also daily events :)
- I /-\li
http://twitter.com/niczak -- Mainly tech/web stuff but also a lot about local events, music, food and things family related.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
http://twitter.com/ajkohn - mostly search, social, marketing and ux with miscellaneous rants and observations
- AJ Kohn
http://twitter.com/Metapho... - a mix of quotes, jokes and wordplay, especially metaphors and similes.
- Dave Richardson
Bumping this as I've just done the same on Google+ here: https://plus.google.com/1044055...
- Kol Tregaskes
Happy 4th of July! Or as my cats like to think of it, the Apocalypse. #fireworks #boomboom
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same with my dog!
- Fee501st
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"Japanese wagyu beef has always been on my wish-list but its high price tag has kept me away from time to time. Finally on a trip to Mitsuwa, the Japanese supermarket, I scored some sliced waygu for this special occasion. Not sure if the beef was from the cattles raised receive massage and beer feed, but the slices I got have crazy amount of evenly distributed marbling. This beef is perfect for my indoor door grilling as the quality of the meat makes it hard to mess up."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
45 Beautiful Motion Blur Photos | Inspiration | Smashing Magazine - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008...
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jimungimm, Sima, WarLord and 42 other people liked this
Thanks to envymask for this entry.
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
wow
- Noosha
Nice
- Shevonne
dance dance !!!
- Noosha
تخته !!!! من میخوام
- RokhSaare
Cool.
- Kol Tregaskes
من اینو دوست دارم خیلی هی لایک هی لایک
- Noosha
لایک برای جفت شیش
- SokooteDel
شخم
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
friendfeedTranslate – userscript and bookmarklet (new!) for integrated language translation - http://wittman.org/friendf...
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Sorin Lerinti, Peter Dawson, The Real sofarsoShawn and 57 other people liked this
wow!
- K.D.
you're on fire!
- metalerik
Good stuff man, props :)
- LANjackal
Dude...seriously... You are the man. This is groundbreaking stuff here.
- Josh Haley
bookmarklet. You are officially the best.
- The Amber
Ah shucks. Thanks guys :D
- Micah
Micah, this is wonderful. I love all of your scripts, but this is breaking barriers.
- joey
Thank you Micah, You have outdone yourself again
- zsafwan
Great!
- Ton Zijp
this will work awesome in my "foreign but good" list
- Tyler Gillies
For some reason, the first comment in this post is not being translated http://friendfeed.com/ff-kyot...
- jnman
jnman, google's translation service has it's limitations. I don't know what is different about that particular comment, though. This is anecdotal, but I would roughly estimate that 20% of the posts I've tried google translate responds with at least some null translation results.
- Micah
Thank you Micah! Josh just showed me how to do it. I didn't know you had to open an individual post by clicking the time. I'm tech challenged. :)
- Trish Haley
dude, you're a ninja
- chrisofspades
Trish, thank you for the honesty. Ahhhh, _documentation_ so often an afterthought *scolds self*. Actually, if someone wants to pitch in help make a tutorial, please let me know. I'm working on a full set of pre-loaded configurations for each support translation language ~ maybe it will get released tonight (hard not to be in all the great conversations, though - that's the rub :D
- Micah
Thanks, chrisofspades. I've been meaning to ask how the activity on ffThreadKiller is lately? If ya-all haven't checked it out yet head over to http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah
Micah - tried out the bookmarklet on safari :))) Awesome. interesting how much better the translation is that the google.com/translate .(google.com version doesn't seem to do transliterated text. - the version your script accesses is getting a fair amount of it.)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
activity waned. and I've been waffling on some back-end decisions that's preventing me from updating it.
- chrisofspades
from email
Rob, cool. That's an interesting comparison.
- Micah
chrisofspades, yeah, I guess for a lot of people the statistic is interesting initially, but doesn't have legs. Have you considered expanding what statistics it gathers? You've already worked out how it spiders, what other calculations are feasible? I've seen a lot of requests for date range searching. Maybe some slice of data related to the timestamp.
- Micah
date range searching would be sweet chrisofspades! if there's anything I can do to help please let me know! test maybe?
- metalerik
Rob I noticed that too.
- metalerik
*bump* I installed it on my home machine :)
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
And it worked?
- Micah
Yeah, mostly. :) I think people tend to write with mispellings though so that's tough to translate anyway.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Oh, cool. :)
- Micah
Simple, yet beautiful - http://tychomusic.com/
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How to set up a GoogleVoice account outside the US. - http://www.gadgetell.com/tech...
Shiva, denise, Antoine Bertier and 15 other people liked this
Yes, apparently this is possible. Also, for iPhone Users outside the US, I notice that only one Google Voice app is available, as of, today in the App Store (this refers to the Ireland store but I presumes applies elsewhere in the EU and perhaps further afield too): VoiceCentral. Because none of the other (Google Voice) apps are available in the App Store I have a faint suspicion that VoiceCentral might just have been placed in a non US app store by mistake. So if you're non resident in the US, feel like using a proxy to set up your GV account, are an iPhone user and don't mind a couple of Euro punt on this app then, if I were you, I'd pile into the AppStore and get me a copy of VoiceCentral before its pulled by Apple. Enjoy and remember, if it doesn't work, don't blame me. For the record I've downloaded myself a copy but haven't yet attempted to try to set up a GoogleVoice account, I haven't even got an invite yet (There's a hint in there: if anyone can advise me, or help, on how to get a GV invitation I'd be very thankful for your help)
- JSLeFanu
from Bookmarklet
I set up a Google Voice account from Germany this weekend. I had to screen-share with a US colleague to get the initial registration done, afterward I used localphone.com to redirect calls. Voice Central works flawlessly.
- Lars Trieloff
Lars, thanks a million for the heads up on that. At least now I know another part of the picture for getting this done. I'm pretty jazzed at the thought of getting this set up. I'll report back on how I get on. Now to get one of those invites.
- JSLeFanu
How can Robert Nelson's public-knowledge reminder to rely on unnamed US-proxies to set it up, along with his fine print[*], be considered anywhere near useful? Lars Trieloff sez that "Voice Central works flawlessly," but what's the value of potentially-critical service which one can never know how long it may last? [^*] "fine print: if you choose to go this route only to have Google...
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- ianf ⌘
I did setup my Google Voice account using Hotspot Shield and forward all call to my sipgate.com number and I have a truphone.com US number that I linked. and I use my BlackBerry to control Google Voice and send/receive SMS
- zsafwan
This is purely academic enquiry in my part, but how many discrete steps were required (each moment of entering a site, navigating to a specific page, filling/ entering username/ password in a form, submitting/ registering, etc, counts as one step) for you to complete the GV registration, including any previous regs you now merely invoked in order to set it up? 100? 200 discrete steps? I wonder…
- ianf ⌘
ianf, I'm not very far down the road with this so I can't offer any real response to the issues you raise. I made the original post because I happened upon this article the same morning I spotted this GoogleVoice app in the Ireland App Store. Normally Apple don't stock apps for services not supported in the market of any given app store. SO for those of a "hacky" mindset I thought I'd just put the word out and attach the necessary caveats. I'm as interested as you are in the responses to your post.
- JSLeFanu
David, I'm not questioning any decisions any of you above may have made, I am merely trying to clarify certain usually-unmentioned things as much for others' sake, as for my own. I have not attempted this unofficial GV setup, and probably won't, because I have other, analogous experiences of past "bypass-ordinary-channel" services similar to that which seldom worked in the long run....
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- ianf ⌘
Well I hope everyone jumped on those GoogleVoice app while the going was good: http://www.macnn.com/article...
- JSLeFanu
you can get a free SIP phone number from here sipgate.com
- zsafwan
Well I got my GoogleVoice invite today. Hooray! Hooray again that I grabbed that VoiceCentral app before it was pulled. Boo, I'm still not sure if I can get this to work in a practical way. I'm with a VOIP provider in Ireland and my package includes limitless free to the states, among numerous other places, but I haven't yet worked out the way, if any, I can get to use the GoogleVoice...
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- JSLeFanu
Ok, I give in. I'm now with ianf ⌘ on this whole gig. I can't tell anyone if GoogleVoice hacking is worth the trouble or not because I've got nowhere near getting registered. I tried the SipGate route. I made several attempts to fill out their online form but at the bottom of the page the CAPTCHA text wouldn't render. Of course I was using a Proxy, several different ones to register so...
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- JSLeFanu
But an invite is required... so...? Proxy is easy, just ssh into your US webhost.
- Paul Grav
Paul, thanks, I have the invite already and I got it using a proxy, that bit was easy. I only have the haziest notion of what ssh means so I'll postpone attempting that until my understanding catches up a bit. I suppose its possible that in practice the process "can" be as easy as Gadgetell portray, its just that in my experience it isn't. Maybe it would be a breeze if I knew more about this "ssh-ing" but I don't and Gadgetell didn't suggest any competence in ssh-ing" was needed.
- JSLeFanu
Well, if you have a webhost in the US, just open a terminal and type: ssh -D 1080 mywebhost.com Then fire up Firefox and change the socks host to 127.0.0.1 and 1080 for the port. Lifehacker has a more complete guide: http://lifehacker.com/237227...
- Paul Grav
from IM
What about the fact that international numbers are not accepted? I'm in Canada, and yeah, I had no problem signing up, proxy-style. However, it won't allow me to route my calls to my area code. I foolishly accepted a number in an outside area code (American) close to my locale, and now I'm stuck giving it a routing number that it won't accept. I think I should have waited and done it...
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- timedalkat
Paul, thanks for the tip, I really appreciate the info. I actually don't, yet, know how to do any of that. I'm posting from the phone at the moment but I'll be sure to check out the lifehacker link you provided when I'm back at the Mac. I might leave it a day or two to give myself a break because I got a bit pissed off with the whole process today and perhaps need a bit of a breather....
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- JSLeFanu
from BuddyFeed
timedalcat, you raise a good point and one that's already crossed my mind. Sorry to say I can't, yet, help you on this one. I'm not even close to being that far through the process yet myself and consider such concerns an extravagant luxury at this stage . My own local Irish number is with an Irish Sip service but I haven't even worked out how to configure GV (assuming I even make it...
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- JSLeFanu
from BuddyFeed
The article is crap, it basically tells you to setup a proxy but that alone isn't sufficient to setup a Google Voice account. During the setup you select a Google Voice number but you need to forward calls to your own phone, which will inevitably have an international number and only US numbers are supported.
- Paul Grav
I would think the simple way to get around any US IP address requirements would be to have someone in the US setup a TOR hidden service that points to the GV registration. It wouldn't have the same kinds of limitations as typical proxies. (I'm not the Robert Nelson of the article btw)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'd be interested to know whether anyone has tried this particular method. I'm poised to give it a go, the main thing holding me back is that I haven't got my head around the possible routing costs. I know I need a US number, I suppose I could link one to my Skype account. That cost is easy to calculate. I also have an Irish geographical VOIP SIP number already and one Mobile (or cell)...
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- JSLeFanu
BTW, for anyone interested I eventually managed to set this up. Whether it's worth it or not is a different matter entirely.
- JSLeFanu
What's for dinner: Lamb Biryani - http://yasmeen-healthnut.blogspot.com/2008...
The Fat Oracle, vimoh, Fikisha and 25 other people liked this
"Hyderabadi Biryani is my ultimate recipe for a flavorful rice. The bite of protein,the aroma of spices,the tang from lime,sweetness of onions and touch of herbs make this biryani a top favorite of my family and guests in any daawat. Two kinds of Biryani are commonly made in hyderabad, "Kacchi" and "Pakki". "Kacchi" literally meaning raw is prepared by layering uncooked meat. The "Kacchi" Biryani ,usually prepared by expert "Bawarchis" ,requires a thick bottom vessel for meat to cook through without burning and rice has to be precisely half cooked while promptly making layers before rice cools. I prefer making the easier "Pakki" biryani in which cooked meat is layered with rice.The following recipe is of "Pakki" Biryani."
- Anika
from Bookmarklet
It's been probably about 8 months since I've made a biryani and I awoke craving this. Hope I can find my saffron, it's been way too long since I've used it.
- Anika
This looks so good, I'm hungry. Your knowledge of hyderabadi biryani's is great too. Lots of other varieties of biryani out there. Don't forget to have this biryani with Mirchi ka salan (chillis melange) or bagaire baingan (aubergine stew) and raita (mixed yogurt) of course
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Friend of mien was comparing biryani in India to pizza here. People get very passionate about it. "Hydrabad biryani sucks!" despite hearing about how great it was at work for about 1/2 hour the day before.
- anna sauce
I have only had biryani a few times, but I really liked it. Haven't tried cooking it myself, though.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Aaman, that first part above is from the site, though I do know my biryanis since I started learning to cook them in '87. I always have mine with a raita and of course, the chilis because that's what I'm used to. I'm just more excited about being able to used vegetables and herbs from my garden for this.
- Anika
I love Biryani! I don't think I'll try making it though. There are so many great Indian restaurants in my part of NJ. Thanks for sharing! :-)
- sean808080
Off to make the biryani. Using chiken (boring!) because I forgot to buy lamb.
- Anika
hell yes
- Cee Bee
I'll be right over. :)
- Ayşe E.
Anika, my first job out of school was in Hyderabad - lived there for about 1.5 years and had the most amazing food possible. If I am ever in your part of the US, I hope I can come make some Hyd biryani and Salan for you.
- The Fat Oracle
When I was at the Indian market and asked for the saffron, the guy asked me what I was making. When I told him he said, "Whoa. You can do that?" Yep! Been making it since I was 12. I think he fell in love with me. ;P
- Anika
Since 12?? *I* am in love with you.
- The Fat Oracle
yum yum!
- imabonehead
LOL Kamath, you're on! I am always ready for someone to cook tasty food for me.
- Anika
YES! Nothing like a good biryani. It's one of my favorite ways to have rice.
- Will Higgins™
Bumping this because I'm thinking about cooking something different.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Google Points At WebFinger. Your Gmail Address Could Soon Be Your ID. - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
İlter Kalkancı, Nils Sandin, scotu ._., and 72 other people liked this
"It’s taking something everyone knows on the web (your email address) and making it immensely more valuable as a way to identify yourself and information about you. Exactly what kind of information? Here are some of the ideas from the WebFinger Google Code page: * public profile data * pointer to identity provider (e.g. OpenID server) * a public key * other services used by that email address (e.g. Flickr, Picasa, Smugmug, Twitter, Facebook, and usernames for each) * a URL to an avatar * profile data (nickname, full name, etc) * whether the email address is also a JID, or explicitly declare that it’s NOT an email, and ONLY a JID, or any combination to disambiguate all the addresses that look like something@somewhere.com * or even a public declaration that the email address doesn’t have public metadata, but has a pointer to an endpoint that, provided authentication, will tell you some protected metadata, depending on who you authenticate as."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I don't want my contact information to be my identifier. I shouldn't have to give a website my email address, just like I shouldn't have to give a store my phone number.
- Daniel Sims
Daniel, I think it just takes the form of an email address, but does not in fact have to be one (or could be a "throw away" account).
- Paul Buchheit
It would be cool if we could get our act together (as an industry) and make this stuff happen. I'd also like to see ENUM deployed to the point that my phone number can be linked to my identity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...)
- Joe Beda
This is a bad idea in so many ways I can't even begin to list them.
- April
If a site wants my email address, it's probably in order to spam me. It's usually a bad sign. If legit sites ask for my email more, it will make it harder to identify the spammers.
- Tim Tyler
Do gmail users seriously still have problems with spam? I don't.
- Robin Barooah
Personally this sounds great - as long as it really doesn't force you to use your actual gmail address.
- Robin Barooah
I loved finger.
- j1m
Does this mean I can have a .plan again?
- Benjamin Lee
Sounds like the .plan which is (again) accessed via an id in email format and returns different information/metadata about a person depending on who's accessing it. Email id is used to do a DNS lookup in order to discover URL for the XRD file (accessed with a HTTP GET) containing the metadata about the person being, er, WebFinger-ed.
- Nenad Nikolic
it is like user authenticating, having two three ids won't hurt ;) well i don't want to be identified, they are going same as gravatar
- testbeta
It's so curious to me that people have concerns that WebFinger would lead to more spam, and yet don't like the "format" of URLs for IDs. Personally, as far as OpenID is concerned, I don't care what the identifier looks like as long as people can remember it — typically email seems easier to recall than URLs (for most people in today's world).
- Chris Messina
Some users who have an email account with Google, myself included, have oodles of incoming mail both standard and secure so it fits the bill to increase security for both vendors and marketers.
- frank burns
I have no problem with the idea, but it seems to me that it won't help the current state of affairs much. The kind of information I'd be interested in sharing via Webfinger (my OpenID, a URL to a FOAF file, etc.) will have no better adoption, so the Webfinger configuration doesn't buy me much. I'll hold out hopes that after a couple tight integrations between Webfinger and OpenID providers (say if Google, Microsoft and/or Yahoo provided and consumed both) things will improve ... here's to hoping :(
- J. McConnell
Years ago I experimented with FOAF. I didn't fully understand nor appreciate what I was doing. To serve as a warning, if you take this example, ensure that it is blocked. #Example: I sent a file to Adobe which in turn, was sent to another email account I had at the time. I verified it's sender (ME) and sent it back in the direction of travel. A signed FOAF (API KEY) was then returned...
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- frank burns
What is your Google Reader URL? Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... #greader
urdumania1, Slavomira Vladimirova, Oscar Antonio Moralí and 124 other people liked this
I share all sorts. :-) Lots of photos, photography and tech stuff though. Feel free to sub to me if you like. :-) BTW, you can see who is following you here: http://www.google.com/reader... #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks, Michael.
- Kol Tregaskes
More often I end up sharing directly through FF even if I find it on GReader, but sometimes I share there. http://www.google.com/reader...
- Tony Miller
http://www.google.com/reader... Just about internet!
- ★ Soner Gönül
http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long!
- Michael Fidler
Michael, it's not been clear until very recently, you can see notifications here: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kol Tregaskes
Love yr posts :-)))))
- Johni Fisher
thanks for starting this thread - here's mine http://www.google.com/reader... (mostly social media stuff, a little food, and occasional randomness)
- Chris Rogers
Kol, thanks! I wish it would tell me when they started following, I'll have to keep a better eye on it now.
- Michael Fidler
Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed?
- Chris Rogers
http://www.google.com/reader... - Always looking for more ppl to share links!
- Liza + = ?
Ah so that's your name, M F! ;-) I'm wanting to live in that area too, nice around there?
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes it's alright I moved here two years ago, I was in West London before that
- M F
GREAT FEED - I am finding so many great ppl to follow - this is great.
- Liza + = ?
M F, I like to move to just over the other side of the stream from you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
And your pics are great! I am going to be stuck in greader for a while!
- Liza + = ?
Well wave your hand Kol when you get here
- M F
http://www.google.com/reader... - But I only really use google reader as a simple RSS reader. Follow people on FriendFeed.
- Anton
Hehe, M F. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
mine is http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kim Landwehr
Thanks for your latest bookmark there, Kim. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
feedly.com :)
- Zach Landes
http://www.google.com/reader... but everything I share in reader comes on to FriendFeed.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
http://www.google.com/reader... - the stuff I share there is also on FriendFeed.
- Hanna Wiszniewska
http://www.google.com/reader... mine are mostly science items
- Sally Church
Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - Mostly Tech.
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... - mixed up content in Portuguese (mainly), English and Spanish.
- Marcos
Liza, oooh I love the post on generating Mandelbrot fractals in Excel!
- Sally Church
@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
Thanks everyone! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-)
- Nadine Pestourie
http://www.google.com/reader... Google and other tech stuff, as well as other random things of interest.
- Californian
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Politics, photography, humor, news, tech, entertainment
- amygeek
Thanks for starting this conversation Kol!
- amygeek
No worries, Amy. :-) Thank you all!
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed.
- David Gross
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't know that I have one, as I eschew most things Google....
- Mike Shields
Not sure if I've already shared it, but my URL is http://www.google.com/reader....
- Tyson Key
Thank you guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
your welcome kol
- Tony C (Unrated)
from IM
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I think that I over-loaded my poor G-Reader by adding all of you. ;-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Here is my feed: http://l.clipotech.com/shared - I will try to add all of you on this list :)
- Svartling
Don't forget to add all out new contacts in to groups. Otherwise we cant comment on each others shared items.
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... - Almost exclusively tech, including humor/cartoons and productivity.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people.
- Dusty Edenfield
Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users.
- Dusty Edenfield
Thanks everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
here's mine! Love some of the new features... http://www.google.com/reader...
- Sullivan
I don't think I added mine yet: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Tinfoil 2.0
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Almost missed this one! http://www.google.com/reader...
- Patrik Arwengrim
I guess I best start sharing stuff, then. :D - http://www.google.com/reader...
- Bette Cooper
http://www.google.com/reader... - I guess I'm a bit late to the party, but here's mine. I share mainly technology, photography, design... and other random stuff.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
Thank you all.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes! The list I was looking for! I'll get my info on here as soon as I get on my netbook
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
from email
Thanks for posting this Kol. Never paid any attention to my shared items folder before but just did!
- Martha
The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default!
- Vince DeGeorge
Vince, exactly!
- Kol Tregaskes
Not sure how I missed this thread. I share lots of tech news, some programming stuff and a little more at http://www.google.com/reader...
- Rob Diana
There is also a group that collected a bunch of reader shares at http://friendfeed.com/share-y...
- Rob Diana
http://www.google.com/reader... - Or just go to: Sharing settings on your google reader shared items and search for: Avi Joseph
- Avi Joseph
Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Roy Herrod
http://www.google.com/reader... - topics include a bit of everything, but there's a fair about of Android-related stuff in there
- Chuck Falzone
http://www.google.com/reader... - German - mostly politics and crude funny things. Maybe some new technology
- JoeD
Thank everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... I mostly share ART with a little bit this and that thrown in for good measure.
- Kimber Scott
Ryo: Same here :) "completely moved to Google Reader / Twitter / Posterous" All my followers, please subscribe to me on Google Reader: http://www.google.com/reader... or my lifestream: http://l.clipotech.com/lifestr...
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... -- nothing shared yet; still learning several social networks & services, so it might take me a while...
- Dennis Jernberg
Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries.
- Dennis Jernberg
easier to just follow and edit groups from search url>http://www.google.com/reader...
- Ru Viljoen
Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up.
- Rob Diana
tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you very much, Rob!
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Right now I'm testing it in comparison to Netvibes. It's yet to be seen if I end up making the switch.
- Brad Williamson
http://www.google.com/reader... Mainly photography related things.
- Sven
It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds?
- Paul Jacobson
My shared stream is at http://www.google.com/reader...
- Paul Jacobson
Paul, can do that but it will be out of date the moment I post it as I'm getting more new users all the time.
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe someone could hook up something via Yahoo Pipes (or whatever) to automatically generate the OPML?
- Tristan Seligmann
Damond, I'm getting that deja vu feeling. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Whoa, hey, I'm late to this. I'm here: http://www.google.com/reader... :-)
- Jordan Hofker
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Please dont tell me I have to add everyone manually like I did with Facebook yesterday?? *sigh*
- Julia Ault
http://www.google.com/reader... link to my bundle with all my feeds that i have in friendfeed too
- Chris Hofmann
http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p
- browneyes
Thanks all!
- Kol Tregaskes
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
spread those tentacles thats what i say (I'm generally sharing comics, animation, and interesting weirdeness) : http://www.google.com/reader...
- Paul Greer
Exactly, Paul. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
There are a few people that have not added me to a group and so I cannot reply to some of your comments. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
phew..
- Paul Greer
Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think.
- Kol Tregaskes
Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
https://www.google.com/reader... - Customized with numbers
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... late as always
- Raymundo Roxas
Thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Trying Google Reader.. Share your friendfeed feed WITHIN Reader. (see http://ff.im/6WRIk)
- Chris Myles
anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site.
- David Gross
Nope, sorry can't help you there, David.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... please add!
- Brendon Wadey
Jesse, I saw your share of this FriendFeed thread on Google Reader!
- John E. Bredehoft
David, I use mobile Google Reader on an older phone with Windows mobile. My bookmark begins with google.com/reader/m/view
- John E. Bredehoft
Here's mine...http://www.google.com/reader...
- Oscar Antonio Moralí
Aloha! http://www.google.com/reader...
- Ryan
Will share tech, science and skepticism, and education news stories: http://www.google.com/reader...
- TC
in case anyone missed it, mine is http://www.google.com/reader...
- David Gross
more cool
- Brent - Yes I am
I share interesting articles about Internet music, social media, open content and copyright issues: http://www.google.com/reader...
- David Holmes
http://www.google.com/reader... news,music,tech,science.crime,money,finance,business,football,basketball,baseball,movies,social,politics,obama,internet,apple.... http://www.google.com/profile...
- cysko
Nice to see all you guys! Here's mine http://www.google.com/profile... :o)
- Aline Ohannessian
Anyone else?
- Kol Tregaskes
Well, there is Google Buzz now...
- Alexander Kruel
Sure and you can find that list here: http://ff.im/fIq0B :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Greetings from the floors, And later moved to go Through your profile The site until this my email address below (Doreen_des@yahoo.com) Doreen you with love & hugssssss (doreen_des@yahoo.com)
- lizzybab4life
Bump.
- Kol Tregaskes
I use FriendFeed Spy to umm find people to follow on Greader...http://www.friendfeedspy.com/... anyway, these are my shared items on Greader...http://www.google.com/reader... I also use this opml genetaror to follow them all in one single file...http://unold.dk/code/opmlgen/
- Oscar Antonio Moralí
http://friendfeedstats.appspot.com/ it's alive!
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Nicely done. I suppose you POST crawl data into it or...?
- Aviv
Nope, I hit a special URL (using curl via cron from my server) and App Engine does the crawling
- Benjamin Golub
Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense
- Aviv
Yes, and it's crazy fast!
- Benjamin Golub
what about rssmeme? or is there too much crawling involved?
- Aviv
technically with rssmeme you could have the crawl super fast if you add all the google shared feeds to google reader and then have AppEngine hit up Reader (although not sure if urlfetch supports cookies). That should make for an interesting hack
- Aviv
I'm going to look into getting RSSmeme on App Engine next, it's just a "bit" bigger than FriendFeed Stats :P
- Benjamin Golub
After DNS propagates the old URL (http://www.friendfeedstats.com) should point to the App Engine...I hope
- Benjamin Golub
Nice! Looks like it went pretty well. Of course, that means all the data is gone now :P
- Brandon Titus
Yes, it's gone, I could import it all if people get really antsy, but it's not like it was running for very long in the first place. People won't even notice after a few weeks.
- Benjamin Golub
trying to search user gets file not found- must be that missing data
- Nathan Eckenrode
Yup, if it doesn't find you then it 404s, use FriendFeed more often and it will find you! http://friendfeedstats.appspot.com/bgolub... works for instance
- Benjamin Golub
Only my stuff for April is on FFstats now. Will this be fixed?
- Corvida
I'll look into importing the old data from my server to App Engine....but it might be a little while (or never).
- Benjamin Golub
Wow, appengine is turning out to be painfully simple to implement. Congrats on such a quick port!
- Bwana ☠
It's simple to port if you originally developed in Python :)
- Benjamin Golub
Does BigTable prevent you from doing complex db operations? It seems like the inability to join or use "OR" is limiting?
- felix
Ya, it is limiting (and that's why I doubt RSSmeme will be ported to it)
- Benjamin Golub
very interesting
- accexine
Probably the Greatest “Apple” Decal Design Yet. - http://thenextweb.com/apple...
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Bir parça kıçıkırık selobantla bile hallediliyor yahu :)
- Mutlu Oğuzhan Öztürk
Great
- Maryam Ardakani
from iPhone
Bottle Design For Liquid Refill For Soap by Jinsoo Cho - http://www.yankodesign.com/2010...
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Any female who says she is ok with being a "friend with benefits" is lying to themselves. Stop it, you're worth more.
Raecheal, Dawn, Melanie Reed and 65 other people liked this
Bah! FWB is an awesome state of being.
- Sparky, lurking
Finally someone is talking the truth. Some straight talk is just what some people need IMHO. Thanks for putting your words down.
- David Damore
When it comes down to it, everyone wants to be loved and feel secure. The sooner you figure that out, the sooner you'll be happier. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Having had a few of these who were actively dating other people and easily moved on when they found someone they actually wanted to be with, I'm going to have to disagree. Yeah, there is some physical and general some emotional attraction, but it is still possible to separate sex from love. The problem comes when you remain good friends (with benefits) for too long, eventually the wires will get crossed, especially the more you go through together.
- xero
There is nothing wrong with actively dating, but just the "friends with benefits" is a load of crap. EVERY female is worth more than a quickie at 3am with no cuddling and day time outings.
- Mona Nomura
@Mona: Who says she has to get the quickie, the cuddling, and the daytime outings all from the same person?
- Roger Benningfield
...but why can't one just enjoy being loved in the moment?
- .LAG liked that
No one, Roger - but clearly that's what she is looking for. :) @.LAG In the moment is great... in the moment, but when the moment extends to longer moments, and longer moments, and even longer moments, it's human nature and a necessity that with love, comes trust, security, friendship, etc., etc. And if those needs aren't met or balanced, the drama ensues LOL
- Mona Nomura
Mona, are you saying that a woman is not capable of having a purely sexual urge that needs to be met without a romantic emotional urge attached to it?
- xero
true but it goes both ways. One person always wants more than the other in those situations and it's not always the lady.
- Anna Lynn M.
Xero - yes. @Anna: But why wouldn't she want more? What was she (or he) doing with the other person in the first place? ;)
- Mona Nomura
...Mona, it's that "drama" that keeps relationships interesting...and viable.
- .LAG liked that
Oh boy. I have close to zero tolerance for drama, I'm all about stability. Been there, done that, no thanks! Perhaps that's where we differ. ;)
- Mona Nomura
"more" is unattainable.
- Anthony Citrano
I loathe drama. Completely.
- Jonathan Hardesty
...some times, you just don't want more from that person. It's fun and that's all it is. It's not that you feel less worthy of a "real" relationship...some times that's all you want to deal with because there are other things in life going on. But you definitely have to be a very secure person to really honestly be ok with that kind of relationship..just my 2 cents.
- Anna Lynn M.
I think you may be projecting then Mona, considering this huge sexual revolution that women have been on for years, and my past experience, past friends, and psychological studies -- I'm going to fully disagree. It has been suggested that there is a genetic component to the women who can not separate the two feelings, but the studies I've seen have all shown overwhelming evidence that...
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- xero
Ack, drama. I have a 20ft no drama radius. I suggest everyone acquire one. ;)
- xero
Xero - That's what I've been saying, you just worded it differently LOL. And I agree with the drama. Been there, done that, no thanks. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, your comments sound more like a fuckbud than friends with benefits. Real FWB are friends more than anything else.
- Sparky, lurking
So what happens when one wants more than the other? Or starts to get attached? It's human nature, the longer you spend time with the person, you want to have something tangible and solid. As a female, if we set the tone with "friends with benefits", that's how the man will only see you as: "friends with benefits" or you'd end up as last resort. :(
- Mona Nomura
But it's not that it's not possible, it's just that people put themselves into those relationships without setting down ground rules, either personal ones or consensual ones. Then things change over time sometimes, maybe they get to know each other better, etc. Sometimes one of the people actually wants to be romantically involved with the other and they accept the other arrangement as a way to bide their time. Those situations will NEVER work out.
- xero
Honesty is always the best policy. And most of the time, people are not honest with themselves and or each other -- that's when things (feelings) get imbalanced and one party ends up getting hurt, mainly the female, more often times than not.
- Mona Nomura
Agreed, Mona. It's usually one person who gets more attached than the other, or there's some kind of failure to communicate that happens somewhere along the way. For all my talk, I'd probably get too attached the fastest. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
You're not the only one, Jonathan! ;)
- Mona Nomura
Heh. For all my "walls," I am kind of easy like that. Hence the need to create walls. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
I want a friend with benefits. Waaaah!
- vimoh
what?
- Pokai
Nobody ever actually *wants* a friend with benefits, those occur when you're in a situation in which something is preventing you from having a continued relationship. Most people actually just want someone they can booty call as needed, a "fuck buddy" if you will. You have to remember that a FWB situation only generally occurs naturally if two existing friends decide that the other "will do" for getting out sexual frustration.
- xero
Like I said, the idea of FWB appeals to me. Right now it's more of a sexual thing than a relationship thing. Now, whether or not that would work or turn into another long-term thing remains to be seen. But there's something to being with someone for however long...
- Jonathan Hardesty
Are you sure that you're not looking for a casual relationship (dating with no expectations or long-term plans) instead of FWB?
- xero
Could be. I dunno.
- Jonathan Hardesty
God I'm so not keeping up with this convo. Mona - if one wants more than the other then you talk about it like adults. People do actuall want friends with benefits - often when I'm single I hook up with close friends who are also single. We don't want relationships from each other beyond our close friendship but hey - why not party with your pants off once in a while? It's all about communication and having fun with your friends.
- Sparky, lurking
Sex can be a beautiful act of love between two people. It can also just be sex. Mind blowing, toe curling, swinging from the chandeliers sex.
- Sparky, lurking
@Sparky, the original comment was concerning females. I believe I know most all men can separate the two - physical sex/emotional sex. I cannot separate the two.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
Why can't you be loved by one person, and FWB with a few others?
- Chris Charabaruk
Way to stir up the mob Mona ;)
- Tony C (Unrated)
I tried that randomly sleeping around thing. It didn't work out. It's possible I just so happened to only sleep with chicks that wanted to put a ring on it though...LOL
- Rah-PM 2012
Personally, or empirically Chris? Personally, it's not whether I can or can't separate sex and love, it's that I don't want to separate sex and love (or perhaps better phrased as "lovingness"). If I'm scromping with someone I'm trusting them with my life and that's not something I take lightly. For me to have that kind of trust of a person, I had to know them well and by the time I know...
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- FFing Enigma
I was just trying to be humorous. That said, some people are better at separating sex and emotions than others... I've met guys where they go hand-in-hand, and I've met girls who could only love one guy, but have no problem sexing up anyone else.
- Chris Charabaruk
Really, it's just that some folk don't particularly see these things as having to go together. TBH, I'm one of them. Just the way I am.
- Chris Charabaruk
Mona, what you say is true...for Mona. But to impose your standards on others is presumptuous at best and intolerant at worst. Recast your remark substituting for "friends with benefits" the words "lesbian", "bottom", "sex worker", "polyamorous", "mother", "schoolteacher", "single", "childless", "executive", etc., and you'll see that you're denying your sisters the sovereignty to define...
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- Alan Chamberlain
Completely agree with you Mona.
- dpurrington
+++Sparky, Chris, tiffany & Roger.
- Anika
Mona is right. If you turn yourself into a piece of ass, you're going to wind up with the self-esteem of a piece of ass. In the end, you'll feel insecure, unloved and used. That's just the way life works. People who think they can separate their bodies from their spirits are just fooling themselves.
- Dawn
Dawn - if you look at it like that then yes. Having sex doesn't mean you are a piece of ass though. Also: sometimes it's hot to feel used ;)
- Sparky, lurking
That's sexist. Why wouldn't you think that a women wouldn't enjoy the same pleasures as a man? Plus, men can be just a "piece of ass" too.
- BEX
What's wrong with being sexy?
- dpurrington
Women are wired differently than men. Women are psychologically wired to nest with one protective mate. Men are much more capable of having frivolous multiple contacts; they don't have the same pulls on their heart, mind and spirit. Call that sexist if you want to, but I didn't create the biology.
- Dawn
Men and woman are biologically different. The sooner we understand why we (males and females) do what we do, life for both parties involved is a lot easier. We (as society) are so hung up on equality, a lot of lines get blurred -- and the sooner we shift mindsets to celebrating (and appreciating!) differences instead of trying to prove we are "just as good or better", the sooner the...
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- Mona Nomura
Alan said exactly what I was thinking. Trying to dictate how or why someone should act sexually, esepecially because of their gender, just ends up frustrating everyone. I hope we're past that as a society.
- Andy Bakun
I did it for a while. Sometimes I was happy, many times I was sad, in the end I was pissed off and never spoke to the guy again. I don't really recommend it, but I think it was about all I could do at the time. My options are pretty limited out here in the Midwest. I'm just very fortunate that I finally found my full-blown loving boyfriend after so many years. It took finding the right...
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- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah - I am so happy for you :) As for people coming in using words like "dictating" should take a close look at what myself (Dawn, plus a few others) are saying. Otherwise, we are going to keep talking in circles. And sub (jo), I completely disagree with your statement "there is absolutely nothing wrong with women who associate their self esteem with the men or women they sleep...
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- Mona Nomura
Oh most definitely tiffany, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a sexual female. :) sub (jo): self defining self esteem I agree with, but lying to yourselves or delusions is the problem and more often times than not leads to hurt, trauma, and or drama.
- Mona Nomura
"any female who says she is okay with FWB is lying to themsevles" sounds like dictating to me.
- Andy Bakun
What am I dictating, Andy? I just made a statement. How you react to the statement is not up to me, it's up to you. :)
- Mona Nomura
WOMEN HAVE BRAINS, people! We're not just slaves to our hormones and organs in EITHER direction. There's nature, and there's also nurture. This makes for infinite diversity. Saying that all women are the same is just plain irrational. We can come up with our own thoughts that have more influence over our actions and desires than any wiring and that oxytocin stuff. Also, many women AREN'T worth more, because they didn't use their brains to be worth more.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Biological determinism is overrated. Human beings have subverted biological drives for hundreds of thousands of years. Civilization is built on the systematic subversion of these drives. And in any case, there are plenty of examples throughout the animal kingdom where the gender roles don't always go that way.
- Victor Ganata
Of course women have brains. But it's also important to understand females tend to react emotionally. Once a female embraces that fact and males understand females are wired differently, things become a lot easier. (For ALL relationships i.e. friendships, colleagues, love, etc.)
- Mona Nomura
Who are you to judge what other women think, seriously? What's right for YOU isn't right for all women. Get that straight, and you'll begin to understand.
- Jillian York
I think it's important to understand that individual people are wired differently. We're not just all archetypes of our particular gender. A man who believes every man thinks the same is going to be at a disadvantage. I would imagine it's the same for a woman who assumes such things about other women.
- Victor Ganata
See? Case in point. Who are YOU Jillian, and why are you so upset with me?
- Mona Nomura
Men react emotionally, too. If you haven't seen a guy do a shoutingcussypissy dance in the infield because he let a grounder get past him, or because someone shot him dead in Half-Life, you might have missed something--or you might not.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mage - of course. I am speaking generally. I know MANY males who are more emotional than females. I am speaking in generalities here.
- Mona Nomura
I just found this via someone else's link - you're assuming that women who have the capacity to handle that arrangement are "lying" themselves? I find that utterly judgemental and ridiculous.
- Jillian York
"Human beings have subverted biological drives for hundreds of thousands of years." Oh really? Homo sapiens sapiens have only been on earth for 2 of those "hundreds of thousands of years." And "civilization" has only been around a tiny fraction of that. Yes, humans have the power to "subvert biological drives" but doing so always comes at a cost.
- Dawn
LOL! Not even worth it! [edit: oh, I suppose that means 2 (100k), not 2 (1000). Phwew!
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
And Mona, my upset isn't directed solely at you but at the generations of women who've had this idea pushed down their throats by other women. You're perpetuating gender stereotypes.
- Jillian York
Jillian - that was a rhetorical question. It doesn't matter who you are, everyone is welcome in my feed. I am going to say the same thing I said to Andy. I just made a statement, how you react to the statement is up to you. :) As for your latter comment, I am copying what I wrote above: "We (as society) are so hung up on equality, a lot of lines get blurred -- and the sooner we shift...
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- Mona Nomura
Who cares? People do what they do. We're animals, right?
- Tyler Hurst
Jillian, once you get to my age, you'll understand that "women who have the capacity to handle that arrangement" are their own harshest judges as they look back and think "What the hell was I doing?!" I've talked to countless women who see later in life the damage they inflicted on themselves.
- Dawn
Mona, if you believe in those differences, then you should also believe in the differences between groups of women. I accept and believe that for you - and many, many other women - a "friends with benefits" situation makes you feel less worthy. For other women - myself included at certain times in life - it makes me feel empowered and complete. You and I fundamentally agree that men and women are different, but I also agree that not all women are created equal.
- Jillian York
Oh Dawn, come off it. I'm in the best relationship of my life, and committed - but I would never for a second regret the encounters I've had. Monogamy is not right for everyone; just because you've come to see that later in life doesn't mean that I will feel the same way. I'm sorry for your regrets - I have none.
- Jillian York
I'm willing to admit that the percentage off women who can handle FWB may well be lower than the percentage of men who can. However, I just can't let anyone say a woman can't do it. People used to claim that women couldn't be mass-murderers and that men couldn't be nurturing. Nature has examples of males who are wired for one mate for life, and probably has an example of profligate females. We are too complex to pigeonhole.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I agree, MiniMage - I don't doubt that the experiences of those women are true. But I also know countless women my mother's age who remain uncommitted, or who found marriage to be their worst mistake (just like I did). These same people who are coming to accept the differences between men and women should accept the differences between WOMEN.
- Jillian York
I don't have any regrets. And being "friends with benefits" is not the same thing as having had one sexual partner your whole life.
- Dawn
My stance on monogamy has been changing lately. At this point in my life, I'm not entirely sure I want to "love" just one person, or even have something long term and exclusive. Just thought I would throw that out there. I think that there are women out there who could do FWB, but I haven't met them.
- Jonathan Hardesty
I will say though, I haven't met a lot of people, so take that how you will. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
Dawn, not sure I understood that last part or how it pertains to me.
- Jillian York
You're confusing what monogamy is. It means having one sexual partner for a period of time. People can be FWB and be monogamous. And when you say, "Monogamy is not right for everybody," and also say you're in a "committed" relationship, your statements are in conflict.
- Dawn
"These same people who are coming to accept the differences between men and women should accept the differences between WOMEN." Jillian nails it! Women aren't the same. Look, the "women are made differently" argument is old & tired. It's been used to force women into marriages they didn't want, deny women the right to vote, get an education or own property, and keep girls out of football, baseball and other opportunities. Seriously, I'd like to see that dropped. Women can bear young. Men can't. I get it.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mage, Women ARE made differently and we are in 2009. I respect the fight and the paths past women (and males) fought to get us to where we are. That said, I still deal with racism and sexism almost everyday -- actually, depending on how I look at it, life could've been horrible for me. I am Asian. I am female. But even if I am called China-girl in 2009, even if I am female, even if I am...
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- Mona Nomura
The problem I have is the implicit devaluation of other people's experiences. How can you assume how much someone values a certain situation without knowing them very well?
- Victor Ganata
Mona, you have said that you don't believe in luck. You believe each person determines his or her own fate. However, you don't believe a woman can decide that she doesn't want more than to have a friend with benefits? How do you reconcile this?
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Dawn, I know what friends with benefits means. I've done it, and it worked for me at that point of time in my life. Being committed NOW doesn't conflict with the belief that monogamy isn't always right. We change and develop our entire life, and my philosophy is to go with what feels right at the time and live without regrets. I'm committed now because, for the first time ever in my life, it feels like the right choice. I've also been married, and that felt like the wrong choice.
- Jillian York
Victor - Can you put it more simply? I don't understand what you are trying to ask me. @Mage: It's because a lot of females try to live up to the anti-societal stereotypes. Like I keep saying, we are in 2009. Not 1950.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, when you render a judgment like that, you're de-valuing people's experiences. My question is, how do you know what a particular experience is worth to another person, without actually knowing the person?
- Victor Ganata
Mona, again, that's your opinion, and like Victor said, you're de-valuing people's experiences. Yes, there are women who do certain things to stick it to the man; there are also many women who do what feels right to them. By placing your assumptions on all of us, you're no better than the rest.
- Jillian York
Ok. If you say so. We are just talking in circles. But I still stand by my statement and excusing certain behaviors by assigning whatever reasoning only gives justification for people to not re-examine themselves and why they do the certain things they do. :)
- Mona Nomura
Hopefully, people can at least understand that Jillian's "do whatever feels good at the time" sexual philosophy creates instability that is very harmful to children, which explains why there have been societal pressures against it.
- Dawn
Circles is right. I will have to give up. As for me, I will try to allow each his or her own personhood and right to determine for himself or herself what makes him/her happy, no matter what year it is, no matter what chromosomes he/she was born with. Why? Because no one can truly understand every human mind, and how each one is shaped by his/her experiences.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I'd also be careful about being too categoric about what is "very harmful to children", because a lot less is harmful to children than one thinks (it might not be "very good" but its not harmful) except direct and indirect abuse. And a happy, balanced etc. parent is far better than anything else
- Iphigenie
Mona writes: "We (as society) are so hung up on equality". Ah, would that that were true, alas. The fight for marriage equality continues, for example, and a great many in our society are vehemently opposed to it. Until we (as society) are able to tolerate diversity, not simply of gender or race, but of experience, philosophy, sexual response, and beliefs, we should continue to be "hung...
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- Alan Chamberlain
As long as we recognize that it's a judgment call and not an empiric truth, I guess we'll have to leave it at that.
- Victor Ganata
i am sure it was prompted by a real life situation, probably watching a friend in a hurtful situation - and in that context it probably makes a lot of sense. If it affects your perceived value of yourself, then goodness! never do it, whatever it is
- Iphigenie
Oh of course, I stand by all my girlfriends who get into the FWB (for whatever reason they choose to) and am there when they need a shoulder, Mage. :) @Alan - You're not understanding me, and that is ok. It's not about "tolerating" or "equality". It's about understanding and celebrating the differences. Word connotations automatically lead to offense and defense, which is why there are so many issues that aren't resolute. @Victor - it is the truth.
- Mona Nomura
What is the litmus test for something being a judgment call vs an empirical truth? because that test itself is a judgment call - I know this empirically.
- Micah
Give me some evidence! n = 1 is a sucky sample size, n =2 only marginally less sucky ;)
- Victor Ganata
doesnt it all boil down to expectations? If the girl or guy says they are OK but actually hope for more, then it will be painful sooner or later, and it will affect self esteem, Mona is right about that. If they have no expectations or wish to be more, and just enjoy intimacy now and then, but clearly think of each other as just friends with no expectations, then it can work. The ones I know who do are transient (a couple times then no more) or occcasional (every few months, not more often).
- Iphigenie
I can agree with that. Anyone who thinks FWB is a stable situation that can last indefinitely is going to be disappointed eventually.
- Victor Ganata
Well Dawn, maybe that's true and maybe it isn't - but I don't WANT children, so that's quite irrelevant. Also, I am with Victor in that FWB is not a lasting situation - but it is one that some women can enjoy emotionally unscathed and perhaps even better for having.
- Jillian York
I'm out too, but thank you Mona, for inspiring a blog post!
- Jillian York
I have a hard time believing that even men want FWB perpetually (well, except for maybe on FFer), but who actually says that's all they'll ever want? Some men or women could be fine with it for a year or two, or a decade or two. We all have the ability to change our minds, and it doesn't make our previous experiences any less invalid. Yeah, that doggoned little toast-thingy that keeps popping up the conversations dragged me back. I'm really incapable of letting it go.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Hopefully, this thread would be helpful to people reading and understanding all takes to making a choice that is right for them. :) I'm all about self growth, re-examination, and learning from other people!
- Mona Nomura
i seriously doubt there's ever been a guy version of this conversation -- "Any male who says he is bothered by being a 'friend with benefits' is lying to himself" -- possibly because most guys would agree. :-D while there are always individual differences, *generally* speaking, men and women are wired differently on this point. this difference was summed up by Woody Allen in "Love & Death." SONJA: Sex without love is an empty experience. BORIS: But as empty experiences go, it's one of the best.
- Karim
thus this conversation has always gone. which leads me to believe that biological determinism, in this case, is *underrated* not *overrated* :-D
- Karim
Karim, I doubt there's ever been a guy version of "women don't have souls," or "women are too delicate for discussions about politics," or "women do not have the mental capacities for education," or "women shouldn't own property," or "women should stay in the home and serve their men." Thus, your argument is meaningless to me.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mini, not sure i understand your point. is it that "women don't have souls" and "it's ok to be promiscuous" are both *cultural* differences and not biologically-driven? maybe just my ignorance, but i'm just not aware of any cultures in which promiscuity was acceptable for women but shameful for men. even if there was one, it seems like the number of male-promiscuous cultures outnumber the ones that aren't to the point it suggests biology is the culprit.
- Karim
tiffany, i guess i'd agree. my point is that you rarely see guys emotionally conflicted about FWB or promiscuity *as soon as* or *as often as* you see women conflicted about it -- not that men are *never* conflicted about it, nor that women *never* are in the mood for what Erica Jong called a "zipless fuck" in the 1970s :-D
- Karim
I agree
- orionstarr
Mona, I read your statement, disagreed with it, and then read the comments. Wow, FFers, pretty good job on a sensitive topic. But I don't get it when you deny being judgmental. "I stand by all my girlfriends who get into the FWB (for whatever reason they choose to) and am there when they need a shoulder." Except how could it be safe for one of your friends to come to you? After you've...
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- Daniel Dulitz
It's easier to give people what they want from me, when I understand where they are coming from. Because I know (or made up my mind to) what I know, my friends do not need me to disrupt their peace of minds and or screw with their reasonings behind their actions. I also have nothing to prove to myself or to them so I do not even attempt changing their minds, hence it helps me become a better friend to them. :) And Karim - I always appreciate your thoughtful, witty, and very wise comments. :)
- Mona Nomura
Karim, what I'm saying is that people have used "women are different" for thousands of years to deny women this or that. It's just more of the same to claim that no woman can be happy with FWB, just because she's got an innie.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
tiffany, I think you've pointed at the reason for the disagreement here: Surely there is some level of mutual affection and respect between romantic love on one extreme, and, on the other extreme, using someone else as a Kleenex to masturbate into.
- Mitch Wagner
+1 MiniMage, Tiffany, and Mitch.
- Anthony Citrano
wow 124 comments later and still no agreement :O now thats a shocker
- Tony C (Unrated)
LOL Who said men that are promiscuous aren't viewed that way, too. Personally I never go after "players" because more often times then not, they are making up for something they are lacking and I am way out of their leagues. ;) And you guys talk as though we are in 1950 and not 2008. I respect, remember, and grateful of the history, but am not stuck in those times.
- Mona Nomura
Mona *blush* thanks... :-D Mini, well, i'm not trying to deny women anything, i'm not even making a value judgement about whether men or women are "right" -- just saying that when you have this huge discrepancy in sexual attitudes that seems to transcend time and culture, the cause *might* be biological not cultural. just because people have used differences (real & imagined) to repress women doesn't mean the (real) differences don't exist or that pointing them out is tantamount to repression. :-D
- Karim
Repression might not even be the point, or it might be repression, "Sorry, honey, you can't feel the way you believe you feel, because you're a woman. Whatever you believe about yourself is wrong." Yeah, that might actually be repression. I believe that FWB cannot work for most of us (talking both genders) most of the time, but I would not be so presumptious as to assume it is impossible for any subset of the population for at least a little while. Why the heck do I keep coming back to this?
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I guess the assumption I have a problem with is the notion that biologically-driven is necessarily better. If we stuck to biological drives and didn't act on our higher functions, we wouldn't have civilization.
- Victor Ganata
Because you feel so strongly and passionately about it, and I respect that Mage :) @Victor - yes, but take a look at civilization and the various tiers (for the lack of better term) of society and its people. What makes one "better" or "worse"? What makes one believe they are "better" or "worse". Ugh - this is a direction I do not want to go LOL
- Mona Nomura
Victor, my assumption is *not* that biologically-driven differences are "better" than culturally-driven ones. in fact the culturally-driven ones are better because they are software, not hardware: a culture can revise or drop a belief that doesn't work. whereas if your hormones tend to make you believe something, that's *hardwired* into the culture. sure, a few enlightened souls might see past their programming :-D but that doesn't always get passed on to the next generation.
- Karim
i guess i'm thinking of all the stuff i've read about how complex behaviors later in life -- like whether you're aggressive, or passive, whether you like to build forts or play with dolls, etc. -- is very often influenced by minuscule hormonal changes in the womb. while i'm willing to consider an argument that attitudes about promiscuity and FWB are culturally-generated, it seems more...
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- Karim
Mini, *my* point certainly isn't to repress anyone. don't want to be an apologist for Mona since she is more than capable of speaking for herself :-D
- Karim
More than that, it's an oversimplification of biology to believe that just because you have two X chromosomes, you're going to behave a certain way. I could agree with "some", maybe even "most", but certainly not "all". Not everyone has the same hormones coursing through their blood at the same concentrations, and not all of them will respond to the hormones in the same way anyway. Any statement you make about an entire gender is not going to be true for 100% of the cases.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, i agree with that. i've tried to qualify things by using phrases like "very often" so it's clear i'm not talking about something being true for 100% of anything. once you've spent some time looking up aneuploidy ("yikes! you can have *five* X chromosomes???") it's clear there is wonderful variation in sexual biology.
- Karim
i guess i'm thinking that if women's feelings about FWB and promiscuity are *cultural*, then the men are not getting the same cultural programming. either our culture should instruct men to be just as monogamous and prudent sexually as women, or instruct women to be just as sexually profligate as men. granted there'd be a few people who won't get with the program, but you could probably eliminate most of the cultural difference and most of the age-old argument.
- Karim
Karim, yeah, other than the fact that many (but not all) genotypic women can give birth while all genotypic men can't, there really isn't any other behavior that can be exclusively attributed to either gender.
- Victor Ganata
if it's *not* cultural -- if being more prudent than promiscuous just comes along for the ride as part of the biological machinery of being a woman -- then there's no end to the difference, really... Sonja & Boris have the same conversation forever ;-)
- Karim
Victor, yeah there's no behavior that can be *exclusively* attributed (as in 100%) to either gender, though you really don't need to get to 100% to say that IN GENERAL, girls like doing certain things that boys don't and vice versa. that is common sense. the question for me is whether you looking at cultural differences (that can be changed), or biological differences (that are hard-wired).
- Karim
Karim, true, but then we get to the question of whether such a difference is biologically-driven or whether it's a social construct. This question will probably never be answered, but I'm just always wary of blanket statements that preclude the possibility of individual variation.
- Victor Ganata
And THAT, Karim, is all I'm saying. One simply cannot truthfully say that 100% of women can't do FWB happily. I'm not saying it can't be true of 51-99%. And personally, I think that if there is a disparity between the percentages of men who can and women who can, it's a societal construct. Thousands of years of women being told that they can not behave the way men do has continued to be extremely effective, I believe.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
The point is: make blanket statements and let people answer if they are or are not the exception. If you keep adding "but"s and "and"s, it gives people excuses to pinpoint blame elsewhere, instead of looking at themselves first. If you know you are the exception, why do you need to prove it?
- Mona Nomura
Victor, i think you can address the question. it's hard but not impossible to find evidence of biological programming. you could possibly survey people with a sex-linked monosomy or triosomy, or people who had hormonal exposure in utero for their attitudes on FWB and promiscuity. or survey general population attitudes by level of hormone. much more easily, social scientists should be able to find evidence of cultural effects on attitudes toward promiscuity, if they exist.
- Karim
Mage - I'm still really curious as to why you keep talking about repression and societal constructs of males and females. Karim already said he is not and I have stated numerous times I have not. I wish people would examine themselves, their situations, themselves, as well as biological factors to determine what is right for THEM.
- Mona Nomura
the sad thing is that after years of research, the results would be published in the newspaper as "Women have greater negative attitude to promiscuity than men," and everyone would go "DUH! Why is Science always telling us things we already know?" lol
- Karim
Hahahhahahhahahahaha!! +++++++++++++++ Karim!
- Mona Nomura
I know at least 3 guys who were FWB with women, and wanted to actually have a real relationship with them, and the girl reminded them that, no, they agreed to just being FWB. Hanging out was fun, sex is great...but didn't want to move into "official' relationship territory. Are the guys also worth more than that?
- Andru Edwards
Dru - that is a question they need to answer themselves. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, I missed the part where you said it was possible that some females exist who could possibly do the FWB thing quite happily for a while. I seem to have a really serious reading retention problem today.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
It's somewhere in this thread or one of the other ones... this was a hot topic last night LOL
- Mona Nomura
How come the guys have to answer it for themselves, but the women are all, by default, worth more than that?? :P
- Andru Edwards
Dru LOL Because females are better than males, of course! KIDDING, FOLKS!
- Mona Nomura
Andru, it's a good question! The cliche in pop culture is that it's almost always the woman who sobs to her friends about feeling like a piece of meat, who is left behind when she wants to cuddle, who insists on getting married, etc. and the guy who has the post-coital need to abruptly leave, etc. etc. it's almost certain that those cliched roles are reversed some of the time, and that it's sometimes a *guy* who might need to realize that he's "worth more than that." but i don't know how often.
- Karim
Of course it goes both ways. But more often times than not, it is harder for females to... hold on, I already covered this. Need to go look for my comment so I can just copy and paste.
- Mona Nomura
the one example of a male in pop culture along similar lines is "Alfie," where the protagonist is a promiscuous male. he slowly comes to realize he should have picked one and settled down.
- Karim
No. It's about different methods we communicate. Most of the time, females cling because they really like the guy, thought there was something more (for one reason or another), and is hurt and or angry. And guys, more often times than not, give lame excuses like: "You deserve someone better." Stop that. That just gives false hope. If you tell her straight up: "I am sorry I hurt you, but...
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- Mona Nomura
Sorry but this sounds a lot like Hollywood crap and/or high school garbage. You see all the time in movies and TV shows, but it is really running that rampant? Those three guys I mentioned, that happened we were in our very late teens/early 20s, very immature age. Does this really happen a lot past, say, 21?!
- Andru Edwards
YES.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Mini, sorry, just seeing your last comment. I am certainly willing to consider any evidence that the difference between male and female promiscuity is cultural if you care to offer any :-)
- Karim
fanofnomuristic
- pb:
Karim, when I was in college, certain athletes would get together every semester and post a "freak list." It was a horrible thing for a female to be listed there. If a young woman'd had her way with a bunch of them, she made the list. Guys did not make the list. For the most part, this public shaming was not done to, uh, GENEROUS guys. You can't blame this on physiology. The message was...
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- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mage - I don't think that is culture, but more defense physiology or basically defense mechanisms when people feel threatened.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
In addition to Mona's other incredible qualities, apparently she is also telepathic :p
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Mini, that's interesting! though i'm not quite letting go of the biological theory yet. i'm guessing you had an idea that promiscuity was bad *prior* to being shown the "freak list" and i'm wondering how/when it develops. does mom give you the "boys only want one thing" talk? do you get the idea from your friends? are you just born knowing it's wrong? stupid men want to know. :-D
- Karim
All I'm asking is why is the normative situation considered superior to the non-normative situation? Why does being outside of the norm require assigning blame or rueful self-examination? It just seems like we're trying to take what is clearly a culturally constructed moral situation, and using vague claims of science to try to pretend that it's completely universal.
- Victor Ganata
"clearly a culturally constructed moral situation" <--??? LOL Uh, no.
- Mona Nomura
How is it not a culturally constructed moral situation, Mona? All I have seen is you saying that everyone really believes what you believe and that they are lying to themselves if they claim otherwise. Isn't such an accusation inherently disrespectful of another person's thoughts and feelings? How is this different than the Christians who all say that atheists REALLY know there is a god and that christianity is true but claim to be atheists so they can sin freely?
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
I am just asking questions that are way below the surface. Why are you so upset Neal?
- Mona Nomura
And couldn't the same kinds of accusations be made of homosexuals? Or of just about anything? Can't I just turn it around and say "Any woman who doesn't believe that they can have a sexual relationship with someone without a romantic one is just lying to themselves"? This is called the "Problem of Incorrigibility"...it is impossible to correct another's internal state.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
Because you are simply reproducing the same moralizing technique used by every other kind of bigot, but since it is about something you feel strongly about you assert it with no care. I was polyamorous, quite functionally, for 10 years, and my wife and I would not be together if not for having open relationships with other partners when we met. You are taking YOUR way and saying it is...
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- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
Absolutes just don't work for me in most cases. For some women, FWB is a door mat type of scenario - for others, it might actually be their cup of tea. The spectrum of sexual preference is nearly infinite.
- AJ Kohn
I'm sorry, Mona, that was rude of me. I need to take a break, I don't want to alienate anyone, especially you.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
No, it's ok Neal. I see where you are coming from and I am sorry I offended you. I said this up top, but I am going to paste it again: "The point is: make blanket statements and let people answer if they are or are not the exception. If you keep adding "but"s and "and"s, it gives people excuses to pinpoint blame elsewhere, instead of looking at themselves first. If you know you are the exception, why do you need to prove it? - You (edit | delete)"
- Mona Nomura
And to add: "We (as society) are so hung up on equality, a lot of lines get blurred -- and the sooner we shift mindsets to celebrating (and appreciating!) differences instead of trying to prove we are "just as good or better", the sooner the lines will become invisible. This applies to other issues, too. i.e. race, culture, class, etc."
- Mona Nomura
How about this? When I was 8, I was convinced by older kids that it was acceptable to indulge in some "show & tell" with another. The boy wasn't punished by his parents, but I was severely punished & made to feel like a rotten child ( mother was CRYING). Think this had to leave a lasting impression? Why didn't my chromosomes teach me that this wasn't right in the first place? I believe it's because it's a society thing based on early man's decision to make sure he had control of whose heirs his mate bore.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mage - I am sorry nobody was there to protect and watch out for you. :(
- Mona Nomura
Mini-mage...the reverse happened to me when I was 9-10. A game of "show me yours" with a bother-sister set of my friends from two streets over led to the little girl being treated like trash while her brother and I were dismissed with "boys will be boys" (ironically, when I was later experimenting with boys, I taught that same neighbor boy a thing or two about being boys ;)). I always...
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- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
Thanks, Mona, but I've experienced worse and lived through it. :) The important thing is to note that I wasn't the first, nor will I be the last. We must not dismiss the ramifications of parents' having locked up their girls for thousands of years while letting the boys run wild. There might be a nature component to it, but I am betting on nurture.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Oh, and yes, Karim, I absolutely did get the "Don't let some little boy get you off into a corner," talk from my mother and the "Boys will bring you down," talk from my father.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I agree with nurture. I finally came to terms with the fact my parents were not around and I learned a lot of stuff the hard way -- experience, and watching those around me. That is why when someone said up there (I think it was Daniel?) that since I Tweeted the above statement, I must be a terrible, judgmental friend. But because of what I have been through, I am exactly the opposite;...
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- Mona Nomura
Mini, Neal -- thanks, those anecdotes are definitely ammo for the cultural difference camp. i'll have to think about this a bit more. roughly 5 years old to puberty is the "latency period" in psychoanalytic theory; i didn't think parents would instill any instruction on promiscuity during this *asexual* period. i certainly never got any, but i'm a boy so what do i know. lol thanks for the (scary, traumatic) peek into the mind of an 8 year old girl. :-D
- Karim
@Mona .. what have you been through?
- pb:
LOL I have seen anything and everything from top to bottom. And Mage, Neal, I too, thank you both for sharing your experiences. :)
- Mona Nomura
NP, Mona, I think social media is actually therapy in a way, at least for me. My wife thinks that I feel more free to be me on the net, even though I am transparent about my identity. She (she's getting her Psy.D., so her opinion is informed) thinks my comfort here vs. my discomfort IRL is about the mode of interaction and my PTSD (I, too, had a seriously screwed childhood).
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
And thanks Mage and everyone else who shares with me in that same spirit of transparency.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
I have no idea what to say now, so forgive me for not saying much other than I am delighted to have so many fluff-less discussions on FriendFeed. I try to operate on the principle that every experience must shape me, and that I must determine how.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
That's why I love FriendFeed (in particular) so much. We are able to openly exchange our experiences and thoughts and though we may disagree, at least we still respect each other. That's the kind of friendships I have in real life too, so I am usually weary (or terrified) of other social platforms LOL
- Mona Nomura
Indeed. FF is different. Anyone who still think the internet isn't "real" or that "internet relationships are not real" (apologies to MC Lars, Bay Area REPRESENT) need to come to FF and see the depth of some of the interactions.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
@Mona :] ... but have you seen the yellow elephant?? .....// and, from what you seen, what did you like the best?
- pb:
I'm interested in the exchange between Neal ("same language as every other kind of bigot") and Mona ("just asking questions that are way below the surface"). Mona, I felt angry because the typical mode of sexual moralism is to tell people that they're lying to themselves. When I was a child, trusted people told me that I was lying to myself about a lot of things and I believed them,...
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- Daniel Dulitz
+1 Daniel
- Chris Charabaruk
+1000 Mona.
- Valley
Without determining whether it is cultural or ingrained, and qualifying that this is far from universal, a man avoids commitment because he thinks he might be able to do better, while a woman seeks commitment because she thinks he may be right. :-) This has been an interesting discussion, and I'm not persuaded that we've really solved anything. Those who think women who are ok with FWB...
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- Alan Chamberlain
all i found was a pull quote from Kinsey, "There seems to be no question but that the human male would be promiscuous in his choice of sexual partners throughout the whole of his life if there were no social restrictions... The human female is much less interested in a variety of partners." The fact that he qualifies *human* (and not American, Western, European, Modern, etc.) male and...
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- Karim
Karim, please name one human society that doesn't treat females differently. In some African societies, they mutilate girls to keep them chaste and restricted to one man (they make sure that sex isn't pleasant for them). In China, single mothers are treated like outcasts. I just read that in India, girls have to be home by dark. Do boys get burqas? I just read that in India, girls have...
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- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
just saying all human societies treat women "differently" from men isn't saying much. it just implies that men and women *are* different, which they are. :-) what you seem to be implying is that women are always treated *worse* than men in all societies. is that what you mean? i am not a social scientist, but i didn't think that was strictly true, given the existence of...
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- Karim
and just to speculate wildly, i'd say some cultures demonize "temptresses" because men are such easy marks. lol it is widely believed that it takes more effort for men to be celibate than women, and women are the ones holding back, sexually. (whether this is true is another question.) sometimes the same phenomenon occurs in those quitting any addiction. they demonize the thing they're addicted to (cigarette, drink, woman) rather than themselves for being so weak. [reaches for cigarette & glass of gin]
- Karim
I'm not saying women are always treated worse. Remember, I hate when people say what's true of some/most is true of all. In fact, I remember reading that there were some aboriginal cultures where sexual experimentation was encouraged and expected of both girls and boys before marriage. Anyway, I wonder what Sarah Hrdy would say today: http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette...
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
it's the biological aspect of the divide in (traditional, common) male/female sexual attitudes that makes it so particularly depressing to me.
- edythe
Love is like a game...no way love is like a heaven, so hot
- Yüksel AYDIN
Wow - how did you find this post?! LOL
- Mona Nomura
from IM
know if that anit true what is the world coming too. In females self value is so important because most girls have none and that is plan stupided and it makes me so mad so i love this post thank u
- Raecheal
Google Reader comments will be shared to Buzz automagically "So you can view and participate in the conversation wherever you'd prefer."
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Louis how will they deal with the public vs private issue? Reader comments are restricted by contact list, how do we open them up to be public?
- Chris Myles
Chris, I am not 100% sure yet. I haven't even opened my GMail yet for fear of lost productivity. :) But I bet we will find out soon.
- Louis Gray
Thanks Louis.. I've been playing with it on my iPod because it's the only place I have access :) Great write ups BTW. Gotta love scheduled posts.
- Chris Myles
Scheduled at 11:00, 11:15, 11:30, 12:00 and 1:00. Now what? :)
- Louis Gray
I don't even have it in gmail yet but I just got a "Buzz from Louis Gray" and a link to this public page http://www.google.com/buzz.... Looks like Reader promotes ALL comments to public..
- Chris Myles
You need to sit back and relax and let everyone try to figure out how you type so fast.. I already saw a couple of people wondering :) Louis Gray is a machine!!
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One must not need to type quickly. One must look at the page and ask the machine to read your thoughts.
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You must have integrated your Google Reader account into Buzz.. and because you "own" the comments on your shared posts they are now ALL public. I'm just guessing.. and yes I am waiting for the Google/Buzz/Blogger mind reader, that would really help!!
- Chris Myles
Chris, the trick is having your Google profile open, and enabling all your contacts to comment on the Google Reader items. I manually put 1,000+ people in my "Friends" folder to make it all work.
- Louis Gray
Are they going to continue the need to 'approve' people to comment by adding them to an approved friendslist, like in GReader? Because I hate that, and it's one of the reasons I never bothered to give GReader's social features more than a passing glance.
- Jandy
So...how does it work, then? We have to find Google profiles for people and then follow them and/or have them as a contact in Gmail? This is one of those times I sort of regret having more than one name people know me under.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
You mean I can't find you everywhere under "Higlet, World of?" *shocked*
- Jandy
er....you can find me lots of place as that, yes :)
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Yeah but somewhere in that loop Google Reader bumps those comments to public (from just your 1000+ friends). Check out http://www.google.com/buzz... .. If you are not logged in, you'll still see your post (it's public) and _all the comments_ .. in the past those comments were only visible by your friends. It's actually...
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- Chris Myles
Chris, I thought the comments were always public on GReader. Just that you had to be approved by the OP to comment in the first place, by them adding you to their contact list. I'd like for people to be able to comment whether or not I have them on my contact list.
- Jandy
Funny that I can go to Google Profile and see my Buzz (last couple of GReader shared items), add others, like/comment others' streams, but I see no Buzz link in my Gmail yet :(
- Flavio
Jandy.. I like the new way better too but the old way was more restrictive than that .. "the ability to see and add comments to shared items is still restricted only to people you have in a sharing group (i.e. "Friends"). So, although your shared items might be public (and publicly discoverable), only people you have added to a sharing group will be able to comment on them." . Actually...
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- Chris Myles
This is cool.
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Announces Google Buzz, Makes Gmail Social - http://mashable.com/2010...
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[SUBSCRIBE SUNDAY]Tracy Benham - FriendFeed - http://friendfeed.com/tracybe...
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Tracy is one of FF's Health/Exercise/Getting Fit Gurus. Don't be afraid to post up a question about working out, eating well, and doing different exercises to get in shape or improve a certain aspect of your physical condition. She is self admittedly not an expert but she will give an great opinion and point you in the right direction with additional resources. Bonus is Tracy is into sports too. Also has nice videos she shares as well. Enjoy this subscription.
- Amani
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You have to request a subscription and that is something I am opposed to doing - sorry - I will not request one.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
tracy's very cool. she's a real positive person
- Cee Bee
Thanks Amani & et all, so much. fyi: I am Health & Fitness Pro./expert, but not an MD - so no medical advice :)
- Tracy Benham
[SUBSCRIBE SUNDAY]: Amira - http://friendfeed.com/amirask
Tristan Hambling, Nispell, Zu from AOD and 14 other people liked this
Amira, from Poland has a great taste in photography and share some interesting articles covering many subjects. Please check out and subject to her feed here: http://friendfeed.com/amirask
- Kol Tregaskes
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Cool, Sean. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Subscribed as well.
- Amani
Nice one, Amani. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
what a nice surprise when I've back home! Thank you very much Kol and everyone.. :) I'm very happy when I can share with others anything I found interesting...Thanks! :))
- Amira
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
i like all Amira's photo and her sharing. i hope we can see more beautiful photo from Amira.
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Yes please. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Just Got Exclusive Early Access to the Latest Wired Magazine Cover! (Disclaimer: Not Really)
Lindsay, Iván Abrego, Joe The Sausage and 41 other people liked this
seriously?
- Vicarbott
And we all know how *that* one ended... :)
- Ian Betteridge
Heh--well, I never did like the similarity of the logos--foreboding.
- Kathy Fitch
wow....I so love the graphics in Wired ..even if this is bogus!
- Chad Gesser
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Is this for real?
- David Damore
Disclaimer: This is not real. And yes, it's based on the famous 1997 Mac cover.
- Louis Gray
well, brilliant even so. Good show.
- Vicarbott
@Louis Gray Thanks. Was wondering what the article said if a link was available.
- David Damore
Original cover from Wired is here: http://gizmodo.com/368903...
- Louis Gray
should of done it as OMNI
- Robert Higgins
Louis: w: disclaimer, need a na na na booty, tongue out
- Chad Gesser
from BuddyFeed
God speed.
- Vezquex
I heart Frienfeed :)
- David Saunders
What is your XBox Live gamertag?
urdumania1, The original Kevin, Andrew Trinh and 11 other people liked this
I've just signed up and mine is koltregaskes. My profile is is on http://live.xbox.com/member.... #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
Add me if you like. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Anyone got a gamertag?
- Kol Tregaskes
I just sent you a request
- Anika
Kerjo
- Jordan Hofker
Thanks, Anika.
- Kol Tregaskes
Pretty Mattie K
- Mattie Kenny
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Susurrant Echo. Just sent you a friend request. :)
- Jandy
bizsumpark182, I'll be looking for your request.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Actually I just went ahead and sent you a request.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Matthew I'm going to send you a request.
- Anika
Ack one day I'll actually get my XB360 hooked up to the LAN. Wish there were more hours in the day. I even have 3 mos of the "Gold" as part of the HD promo.
- mikepk
Thank you all, I've added and requested you guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm ricin97. http://raptr.com/ricin
- donato
"podcatcher". Question to ponder for the weekend: what's the significance of the tag? ;)
- Kevin C. Tofel
NoNameNoSlogan
- Rob H.
Keep 'em coming. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
pretty sure mine is ahr19
- Amani
ITBlogger Glad to see you bought a 360...you won't be disappointed. I sent you an invite.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Actually I added everyone else too...so if you see a request to add ITBlogger, that would be me. Hopefully one of you has a higher gamerscore than me...I need a new goal. :)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Amani, there was certainly a user with that username, added. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
unto
- DeWitt Clinton
Alex, added, thank you. Yes Xbox is great, my brother and I have been playing co-op Call of Duty, shame we have to start from the beginning every time - how can the publisher/developer have omitted that feature.
- Kol Tregaskes
Alex, cool! Just got your request, and will respond as soon as I get back to the dashboard. :)
- Jandy
Jandy, you can do it on the Xbox 360 web site too: http://www.xbox.com/
- Kol Tregaskes
I've added you all. Here's my profile: http://live.xbox.com/member...
- Anika
shreddies
- Joe Dawson
I like shreddies for breakfast, but I don't have an Xbox :)
- Ian May
Thanks, Anika and Joe. Ian, you *need* to get an Xbox, shreddies are no replacement. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Rjcc
- Richard Lawler
Thanks, Richard.
- Kol Tregaskes
I added you too Kol :) - lonelycoo
- Simon Wicks
Lofty Donkey
- Kevin Bondelli
ahr19 is mine.
- Amani
jungleg68 here. Some more users here: http://friendfeed.com/jungleg...
- Jorge Escobar
Rodfather74
- Rodfather
Don't have an XBox, but I do have a gamertag...which I can't remember..
- Rah-PM 2012
My Gamertag is shreddies
- Joe Dawson
JemmFI
- Jemm
Enchanted Dream, but I hardly ever play
- Neya
Added you all, thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Nuvalo
- Bwana ☠
bulletRidN
- The original Kevin
Thanks, Kevin. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Added you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks for doing this Kol. Good idea.
- The original Kevin
dgrove21 -- This may solve a problem -- only one person I know who has an XBOX 360.
- Danny Groveman
Added a few of you peeps last nite. Don't be shocked by the random invite.
- The original Kevin
I don't have an XBox but I thought it was the same as the windows live thingummy.
- Ian May
Bump.
- Kol Tregaskes
I just added a few more people and thanks for bumping the thread. There were a few names on my Xbox that I was wondering who was who. Turned out I had Mathew and Andy totally confused.
- Anika
OutsanityCrazy. I don't even have an Xbox but I somehow have an account
- Outsanity
All-Clad Deluxe Slow Cooker | Williams-Sonoma - http://www.williams-sonoma.com/product...
Shevonne, JSLeFanu, Cheryl Jones and 9 other people liked this
"The top-of-the-line slow cooker from All-Clad features a heat-responsive cast-aluminum insert that functions as a piece of premium cookware in itself. Start out by using the nonstick insert to brown ingredients on your stovetop – a technique that gives slow-cooked recipes greater richness and complexity. Returning the insert to the cooker, with both its residual heat and tasty caramelized bits retained, ensures maximum efficiency and impressive depth of flavor. Then set the timer and let the machine do the rest."
- Michelle M
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Want!
- Mark Forman
I love that you can use the insert on the stove. This thing is beautiful.
- Michelle M
I got a big fat gift card from W-S for my birthday...
- Derrick
Of course I just bought a crock pot. *shakes fist at Michelle*
- Sparky, lurking
Hee, sorry Sparky :)
- Michelle M
That's a nice function to have (the stove top part), but I think I'll stick with my $30 crock pot for now.
- Katy S
NICE! I love the timer part of mine. Not sure if they all come with those that have 30 min increments and low, med, high. I never really looked at them before.
- Paulette
I'd like to know the temperature ranges it runs at. One of the problems I have with mine is that it's low setting is too high, 74C for certain things I want to try. I know that's a safety feature to stop people killing themselves but a low setting of 10 degree lower is something I need as an option. Thanks
- JSLeFanu
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